Strong supporters

[Hiphopopotamos]

FWIW; Higdon of Horns Digets has stated on many recent occasions that the OL coach is the primary problem on Offense

I specifically asked him if the OL talent was the problem or the Position Coach..

He responded

"Coach"

We're starting two true freshman on the offensive line.  I like Jason Higdon when it comes to recruiting info - but he apparently can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to scouting.  Its painfully obvious that there is a significant talent deficiency on the OL.  It has been poorly recruited for years. 

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Not that I know what it says but....Charlie and these coaches knew exactly what they were getting into.

Of course they did - which is why they weren't making any promises other than the promise of 2016.  Charlie and Bedford are smart enough to know that you don't win at the FBS level starting and playing a bunch of freshman.  And you especially don't win with a bunch of freshman when you play the second toughest schedule in college football (according to Sagarin).

 

[North Texas Golfer]

How do you mentally prepare something that has a quantitative limit? Lawrence Phillips was what most would call a talented tailback. Except, he couldn't spell his own name. So the "college student" thing is not indicative of what one would perceive as academic. That only works on a Stanford message board.

I think it's pretty easy to make panic-driven posts showing only one side of a narrative. For instance, you point out that lowly SMU posed more of an offensive threat than Texas. You and both know SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. But you went ahead and put it in print anyway.

We all know that Patterson moved heaven and earth to get his two players back for Saturday's game with Texas. Some sort of "arrangement" was made with the student who was assaulted and whalla, we've got a new starting defensive end instead of a walk-on. It makes me wonder how Patterson can open his pie hole every time Briles does something questionable. Patterson looked a lot like Stoops last week.

So I really can't address your last sentence since it's based on a few things you choose to look at and not a few things you probably ought to consider but don't.

It comes down to this. You're going to feel however you want to feel. A Mt Everest of facts won't sway anyone when emotions run high. I can't agree with you and feel that Charlie Strong is a very good coach or he wouldn't be at Texas. Heck, murmurs of Strong to Texas go back a long way. So it's not like we haven't eye-balled him a while. 

If you're right, then we all pretty much suck at coaching evaluation and probably shouldn't be trying to determine if a change should be made or not or even who it might entail.

I think it's pretty easy to make panic-driven posts showing only one side of a narrative. For instance, you point out that lowly SMU posed more of an offensive threat than Texas. You and I both know SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. But you went ahead and put it in print anyway.

This is what puzzles me. Everyone knows that SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. Yet, late in the 4th quarter they are within 5 of TCU and played a much better game against them than Texas. SMU was competitive against TCU for pretty much the whole game while Texas was competitive for all a minute or two. Why is that? 

It's stuff like this that makes me think that it goes beyond the obvious lack of talent that Charlie was left with. 

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Does anyone in here know what an 'outlier' is?

SMU is 1-4 and lost to James f##king Madison at home.  I'm sure they're all proud that they stayed within a score of TCU, and they certainly lead moral victories 1-0 over the Longhorns - but at this point they are 1-4 (just like the Longhorns) only they have losses at home to previously mentioned FCS school James Madison and East Carolina.

Sometimes shit happens and even the worst of teams can hang with the best. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Does anyone in here know what an 'outlier' is?

SMU is 1-4 and lost to James f##king Madison at home.  I'm sure they're all proud that they stayed within a score of TCU, and they certainly lead moral victories 1-0 over the Longhorns - but at this point they are 1-4 (just like the Longhorns) only they have losses at home to previously mentioned FCS school James Madison and East Carolina.

Sometimes shit happens and even the worst of teams can hang with the best. 

You mean the same James f##king Madison that put up more yards and more first downs against SMU than either TCU or Baylor did? 

Yea, for some reason sometimes shit does happen and even the worst of teams can hang with the best. Except if that team is Texas.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

You mean the same James f##king Madison that put up more yards and more first downs against SMU than either TCU or Baylor did? 

Yea, for some reason sometimes shit does happen and even the worst of teams can hang with the best. Except if that team is Texas.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Does anyone in here know what an 'outlier' is?

SMU is 1-4 and lost to James f##king Madison at home.  I'm sure they're all proud that they stayed within a score of TCU, and they certainly lead moral victories 1-0 over the Longhorns - but at this point they are 1-4 (just like the Longhorns) only they have losses at home to previously mentioned FCS school James Madison and East Carolina.

Sometimes shit happens and even the worst of teams can hang with the best. 

Sadly, I think SMU, East Carolina, and James f##king Madison would all give UT a really good game this season.

I don't know why we're condescending to aggiesh levels of arrogance and delusion these days. Maybe Randy is right after all.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Thank you for proving my point.

You're welcome 

 

[TeamMayhall]

Sadly, I think SMU, East Carolina, and James f##king Madison would all give UT a really good game this season.

I don't know why we're condescending to aggiesh levels of arrogance and delusion these days. Maybe Randy is right after all.

Painful truth

 

[GBT]

So you are saying we let go a coach who was a proven national championship coach, and came within a half of winning a conference title his last year,  and are going to hold onto a coach who has as many faults or more than the previous one ?? Yet still pay him $5 million for no chance in hell of a championship...cause this staff ain't winning a championship EVER. That is insane. 

 

[DMAC]

I think it's pretty easy to make panic-driven posts showing only one side of a narrative. For instance, you point out that lowly SMU posed more of an offensive threat than Texas. You and both know SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. But you went ahead and put it in print anyway.

Sorry SHA but this statement is rather pompous.  Here is break down of the offenses and how they fared vs a depleted TCU defense.

Minn  - 197 passing,  144 rushing, 74 plays for 341 yards = 4.61 avg ypp
SFA   -   21 passing,  146 rushing, 57 plays for 167 yards = 2.93 avg ypp
SMU  - 334 passing,  174 rushing, 79 plays for 508 yards = 6.43 avg ypp
Tech  - 392 passing,  215 rushing, 84 plays for 607 yards = 7.23 avg ypp
Texas- 122 passing,  191 rushing, 79 plays for 313 yards = 3.96 avg ypp
 
Look at the avg ypp the only school that did worse than Texas was SFA (0-5) and only by ONE yard per play.  While SMU (1-4) almost doubled our offense output in the same amount of plays.
 
To say a school like SMU or Rice doesnt belong on the field with Texas is either unwarranted arrogance or denial.  Im going to pick the latter since it appears to be contagious on this message board.

 

[HornEsch]

This is going to be a painful year. To be honest I am not quite sure we have hit the proverbial bottom. Mack started us down the path, unfortunately it seems that our parachute has failed and are now accelerating towards it.

The hope that Charlie has the chops to build this team up or not seems to be withering away more and more even with supporters like me. I understood last year, I really did. Now granted the bowl game shook me, but I got that it was not going to be good. I went into this year expecting that we would probably lose and even be under .500 at this point. However I most certainly did not expect that a man like Charlie would field a team who has shown such little composer. I don't care how young you are, what I have seen at times in these games is just dreadful and I am not talking about the talent. Then it seems that all control has been lost in the locker room!

I want Charlie back, I really do. However at this point he has to earn it! I'm not necessarily talking about wins, although that needs to happen as well, but true progress.

If the team doesn't have motivation after this last week and just rolls over again, I really don't see much hope. You can't coach if you don't have the respect of the players and from what I have seen he doesn't have that.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Sorry SHA but this statement is rather pompous.  Here is break down of the offenses and how they fared vs a depleted TCU defense.

Minn  - 197 passing,  144 rushing, 74 plays for 341 yards = 4.61 avg ypp
SFA   -   21 passing,  146 rushing, 57 plays for 167 yards = 2.93 avg ypp
SMU  - 334 passing,  174 rushing, 79 plays for 508 yards = 6.43 avg ypp
Tech  - 392 passing,  215 rushing, 84 plays for 607 yards = 7.23 avg ypp
Texas- 122 passing,  191 rushing, 79 plays for 313 yards = 3.96 avg ypp
 
Look at the avg ypp the only school that did worse than Texas was SFA (0-5) and only by ONE yard per play.  While SMU (1-4) almost doubled our offense output in the same amount of plays.
 
To say a school like SMU or Rice doesnt belong on the field with Texas is either unwarranted arrogance or denial.  Im going to pick the latter since it appears to be contagious on this message board.

There's got to be an "outlier" in there somewhere? Doesn't there?

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Sorry SHA but this statement is rather pompous.  Here is break down of the offenses and how they fared vs a depleted TCU defense.

Minn  - 197 passing,  144 rushing, 74 plays for 341 yards = 4.61 avg ypp
SFA   -   21 passing,  146 rushing, 57 plays for 167 yards = 2.93 avg ypp
SMU  - 334 passing,  174 rushing, 79 plays for 508 yards = 6.43 avg ypp
Tech  - 392 passing,  215 rushing, 84 plays for 607 yards = 7.23 avg ypp
Texas- 122 passing,  191 rushing, 79 plays for 313 yards = 3.96 avg ypp
 
Look at the avg ypp the only school that did worse than Texas was SFA (0-5) and only by ONE yard per play.  While SMU (1-4) almost doubled our offense output in the same amount of plays.
 
To say a school like SMU or Rice doesnt belong on the field with Texas is either unwarranted arrogance or denial.  Im going to pick the latter since it appears to be contagious on this message board.

And that same SMU team just lost to East Carolina at home.  Did Morris forget how to coach?  Bad day? How do we explain a team that went toe to toe with TCU, but has lost to East Carolina and James Madison at home.

 

[DMAC]

There's got to be an "outlier" in there somewhere? Doesn't there?

LOL.  Im sure there is.

I just checked NCAA stats - http://www.cfbstats.com/2015/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category10/sort01.html

Interesting to see the top 4 being Baylor, TCU, Tech and Houston.  SMU #48, ag #23, even Texas State at #21.  Good news we moved up from #120 to #110. 

If you had showed me this during the SWC days I would have screamed LIES

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Looks like Chris Warren's mom supports Charlie Strong...

From Brian Davis:

Texas running back Chris Warren’s mother indicated she will force her son to transfer if things don’t work out in Austin, according to a report.

In an interview with Realdawg.com, the Washington Huskies’ 247sports recruiting website, K’Tara Lopez said she’s still in a “wait-and-see stage†with her son.

“Christopher will not play for a coach that does not place academics, the development of a young man’s foundation (character) and enforcement of proper conduct on and off the field at a very high level,†Lopez said, according to the website. “We are not timid about the transfer process like others are.â€

Lopez told the website she wouldn’t say which school Warren would transfer to, but “you know his final list,†she said. Warren’s recruitment came down to Texas and Washington.

Warren has played sparingly so far this season, getting only 33 yards on 10 carries in three games. He was ranked as one of the nation’s top 10 running backs in high school.

Lopez said she’s watching to see if UT administrators give coach Charlie Strong enough time to right the ship. Texas started the year 1-4 going into Saturday’s game against 10th-ranked Oklahoma.

“I think he can (turn UT around),†Lopez said of Strong. “But (I’m) not sure the time frame will work for the UT fans and alumni.â€

 

[DBut82]

“Christopher will not play for a coach that does not place academics, the development of a young man’s foundation (character) and enforcement of proper conduct on and off the field at a very high level,†Lopez said, according to the website. “We are not timid about the transfer process like others are.â€

Aren't these the very values Strong stands for? (read: Daje Johnson)

 

[streettopeschel]

Does anyone in here know what an 'outlier' is?

SMU is 1-4 and lost to James f##king Madison at home. I'm sure they're all proud that they stayed within a score of TCU, and they certainly lead moral victories 1-0 over the Longhorns - but at this point they are 1-4 (just like the Longhorns) only they have losses at home to previously mentioned FCS school James Madison and East Carolina.

Sometimes shit happens and even the worst of teams can hang with the best.

ok, fine. We're probably better than SMU. Have a Snickers. You're grumpy when you're hungry.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I think it's pretty easy to make panic-driven posts showing only one side of a narrative. For instance, you point out that lowly SMU posed more of an offensive threat than Texas. You and I both know SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. But you went ahead and put it in print anyway.

This is what puzzles me. Everyone knows that SMU can't stay on the field with Texas. Yet, late in the 4th quarter they are within 5 of TCU and played a much better game against them than Texas. SMU was competitive against TCU for pretty much the whole game while Texas was competitive for all a minute or two. Why is that? 

It's stuff like this that makes me think that it goes beyond the obvious lack of talent that Charlie was left with. 

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the #2 team in the nation just didn't show up to play that day? How easy would it be to take SMU lightly after having blown them to smithereens the last couple of years?

Plus, and I could be wrong on this, I think there were some suspensions being served out for what was supposed to be a risk-free game?

There are more things to consider than just straight up team match ups.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the #2 team in the nation just didn't show up to play that day? How easy would it be to take SMU lightly after having blown them to smithereens the last couple of years?

Plus, and I could be wrong on this, I think there were some suspensions being served out for what was supposed to be a risk-free game?

There are more things to consider than just straight up team match ups.

Yes, we can assume that TCU took SMU lightly and just didn't show up to play that day.

That way we don't have to ask ourselves why it is that SMU can play a competitive game against TCU and we can't.