Strong supporters

[Randolph Duke]

Can you honestly answer these questions with a 100% assured YES.....Without orange colored glasses or Kool-Aid....

Do you truly believe we beat OU ?

Do you truly believe we beat Baylor ?

Do you truly believe we beat Tech ?

Do you truly believe we go into Morgantown and beat WVU ?

...and if you answered NO...Do you truly believe we make either of these games remotely close ( 10 or less ) ?

2-10 is probably the upside for this team. We suck.

 

[bierce]

Can you honestly answer these questions with a 100% assured YES.....Without orange colored glasses or Kool-Aid....

Do you truly believe we beat OU ?

Do you truly believe we beat Baylor ?

Do you truly believe we beat Tech ?

Do you truly believe we go into Morgantown and beat WVU ?

...and if you answered NO...Do you truly believe we make either of these games remotely close ( 10 or less ) ?

No to all, but when are we ever 100% sure of winning a game in even a good season?

We had some awful games early (BYU), in the middle (KSU), and at the end of last year (TCU, Arkansas), but we also had a win (WVU) and close losses (UCLA, OU) to ranked teams on the heels of some of those losses, so I think we'll play some of the remaining good opponents remotely closely and even get a win against the field.  There's just no telling in which game Texas will play pumped, the opponent flat, and breaks go Texas's way. 

Not that 4-8 is any reason to celebrate anything other than not going 3-9 (or worse).

 

[GBT]

I don't want Charlie gone...I want Charlie to hire a new staff. A good one this time......

The good thing is we finish the year with Tech and Baylor instead of Kansas. We look good beating Kansas and you will say we are improving and are back on track. Finishing with Tech and Baylor will show us just where we are...which will be in the same boat as we are today because our staff doesn't have a clue how to coach in the Big 12 ( especially our defense which is supposed to be Charlie's strength ). Our Freshmen will be virtually sophomores and our upperclassmen will have another full year under Bedford.....I can't wait for the results. Someone will need to order up some crow. 

 

[UTfish]

"We have become Aggy"

I'll tell you where you are wrong. We do not become Aggy by our play on the field. We become Aggy when people of the UT program (Players, coaches, fans, alumni, students, boosters, reporters, journalists, etc....) start acting like little girls. When we all start responding to our football team's play on the field with the attitude of an immature little ***** that involves: whining/crying, making excuses, blaming/pointing fingers, making threats, panicking, and lacking composure and a level head - is when we become Aggy.

SO AS SUPPORTERS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, LETS BE BETTER THAN AGGY. Let us all give our love and support and trust to the Program, and let it play out and make it's turnaround. Come early, be loud, wear burnt orange, stay late, and hook em horns.

Well said, Brother!

My question is...what do we expect to gain by all these complaints on social media? Does anyone really believe that Bellmont reads or gives a rat's *** about their opion...or ours?

The only way anything said on this board can be helpful to the program is if we show solidarity.

Is pumping sunshine in a s*** storm wrong? I don't know, but IMHO, it's better than vainly throwing gasoline on a fire.

We can't control it. May as well go with the flow dictated by Bellmont until we are elected to the BOR, even if we do have all the right answers. We are pissing in the wind if we think that anything said on this board will have any affect on how long Charlie or any of his staff has.

Look, I hate Bob Stoops, but I would publicly support him (gag) if he were our head coach because to me, that is what true team support is, even tho he would NEVER be my choice.

Hook'em!

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

The only way anything said on this board can be helpful to the program is if we show solidarity.
Is pumping sunshine in a s*** storm wrong? I don't know, but IMHO, it's better than vainly throwing gasoline on a fire.

You're entitled to be a sunshine-pumper, others are entitled to their opinions too.

I didn't see too much to be optimistic about yesterday against TCU. We're never gonna agree on everything, including the future direction for Texas football. We all just wanna compete and win - with or without Charlie.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Well said, Brother!

My question is...what do we expect to gain by all these complaints on social media? Does anyone really believe that Bellmont reads or gives a rat's *** about their opion...or ours?

The only way anything said on this board can be helpful to the program is if we show solidarity.

Is pumping sunshine in a s*** storm wrong? I don't know, but IMHO, it's better than vainly throwing gasoline on a fire.

We can't control it. May as well go with the flow dictated by Bellmont until we are elected to the BOR, even if we do have all the right answers. We are pissing in the wind if we think that anything said on this board will have any affect on how long Charlie or any of his staff has.

Look, I hate Bob Stoops, but I would publicly support him (gag) if he were our head coach because to me, that is what true team support is, even tho he would NEVER be my choice.

Hook'em!

Nothing that happens on this board or is said on this board, whether negative or positive, impacts Bellmont, Charlie, or the football team in any way, shape, or form. This board is nothing more than a forum for UT fans to voice their thoughts, pro or con, about the state of affairs of Texas athletics in general but primarily the football program. This board, as well as most other boards, is nothing more nothing less and has little or no impact on UT athletics. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

And while I am at it, what is equally ludicrous is when "sunshine pumpers" call out those who are critical of what's going on. Especially when they call them aggies. Just because you are a "sunshine pumper" doesn't make you a better fan than someone who has something critical to say about the state of affairs of Texas athletics. Some of us are just f##king sick and tired of losing and are maybe not as patient as others want to be. And that doesn't make us bad fans or people. So, while I want to say just STFU with that crap, I'll be nice and won't say that.

 

[BevoBlake]

Nothing that happens on this board or is said on this board, whether negative or positive, impacts Bellmont, Charlie, or the football team in any way, shape, or form. This board is nothing more than a forum for UT fans to voice their thoughts, pro or con, about the state of affairs of Texas athletics in general but primarily the football program. This board, as well as most other boards, is nothing more nothing less and has little or no impact on UT athletics. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

And while I am at it, what is equally ludicrous is when "sunshine pumpers" call out those who are critical of what's going on. Especially when they call them aggies. Just because you are a "sunshine pumper" doesn't make you a better fan than someone who has something critical to say about the state of affairs of Texas athletics. Some of us are just f##king sick and tired of losing and are maybe not as patient as others want to be. And that doesn't make us bad fans or people. So, while I want to say just STFU with that crap, I'll be nice and won't say that.

NTG, there is a difference between yourself and those that are being called aggies. It's one thing to be critical. It's another to be a blind, ignorant and completely out of line in your remarks. I won't name names. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

NTG, there is a difference between yourself and those that are being called aggies. It's one thing to be critical. It's another to be a blind, ignorant and completely out of line in your remarks. I won't name names.

In general I don't disagree with anything you said here. But I will add that being blind, ignorant, and completely out of line is not unique to either side of the equation.

 

[BevoBlake]

In general I don't disagree with anything you said here. But I will add that being blind, ignorant, and completely out of line is not unique to either side of the equation.

No it is not. It's just one side tends to run in the vein of trolling due to the subject matter they're beating like a dead horse. I'm fairly confident there is at least one, if not two, Aggie fans on this board that are posting nonsense to not only troll but likely to generate content for opposing fan board sites to laugh about. I know you're not one of them. Just like I know that many of the others who are voicing their frustration aren't. Heck even Randolph, who I think is talking a little out of his element lately, is a poster that I know for certain is a Longhorn fan. Nobody has been as critical as he has. It's all about how you deliver your message. There are those who speak with a disgruntled passion. And there are those who are laying it on thick and not acknowledging any redeemable spots in the program. Again, I'm not mentioning names. Partially because I'm not going to continue to engage in a flame war. And then partially because I think most already know who I'm talking about.

 

[UTfish]

You're entitled to be a sunshine-pumper, others are entitled to their opinions too.

I didn't see too much to be optimistic about yesterday against TCU. We're never gonna agree on everything, including the future direction for Texas football. We all just wanna compete and win - with or without Charlie.

Lol! I didn't say it was easy, or popular, to pump sunshine, J.B., and actually, I do value the opinions of everyone on this board. There is a ton of football knowledge here. Most of it is spot on, even if it is negative.

In a private meeting, you would be surprised how often I agree with RD and GBT (sorry Bear19). I just wish the negative wasn't so public.

Okay, social media past email is new to me, and here I am on a public forum, wishing it wasn't. I'm a "fish" out of water. I'm gone.

 

[Embrey]

Half of this board sounds like PC Principal.

It is painful to watch Texas struggle like this.

However, there is no God given right that Texas shall be a football power, regardless of what so many apparently think.

Stop acting offended by those who are pointing out the obvious. When you do, your ire is as musguided, if not more, than the several posters who find it their personal mission to point out the obvious to your disgust and dismay.

Everybody take a breath. This is going to be a long season and if you are Longhorn fans you will react accordingly.

Is it Mack's fault? Yes

Is it Charlie's fault? Yes

Is Randolph Duke going to cause Texas to have a crappy recruiting class? No.

Are there high school seniors who will make it their personal mission to see to it that Texas returns to greatness? Yes

This too will pass.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

No it is not. It's just one side tends to run in the vein of trolling due to the subject matter they're beating like a dead horse. I'm fairly confident there is at least one, if not two, Aggie fans on this board that are posting nonsense to not only troll but likely to generate content for opposing fan board sites to laugh about. I know you're not one of them. Just like I know that many of the others who are voicing their frustration aren't. Heck even Randolph, who I think is talking a little out of his element lately, is a poster that I know for certain is a Longhorn fan. Nobody has been as critical as he has. It's all about how you deliver your message. There are those who speak with a disgruntled passion. And there are those who are laying it on thick and not acknowledging any redeemable spots in the program. Again, I'm not mentioning names. Partially because I'm not going to continue to engage in a flame war. And then partially because I think most already know who I'm talking about.

Well said and I respect that.

 

[utisdabomb12]

I get what you are saying but Wickline is a terrible recruiter.

I don't get this narrative. For one, Wickline was never a great recruiter at Oklahoma State according to recruiting rankings.. He took lower level guys, like Connor Williams, and developed them over 4 to 5 years.
I also don't get the narrative that Wickline has been a terrible recruiter. If we land one or two more guys like Connor Williams we will be in business. It's not like anyone thought Williams was going to be a stud because of his 3 star ranking. I mean Wickline has already substantially upgraded our talent pool with Williams alone.

I hate to say this, but Wickline has probably overachieved with the talent pool he has on the offensive line. I don't know what people expect from Wickline when his entire strategy at OSU was to develop players over a 4.to 5 year period, yet we aren't even 1 and a half years in at Texas. I guarantee Wickline is pissed he even has to play Vahe and Williams, because that's completely antithetical to what he likes to do in terms of building an offensive line. It's also why I was not remotely surprised Wickline was attempting to RS both the JUCO OL.

 

[DMAC]

I don't get this narrative. For one, Wickline was never a great recruiter at Oklahoma State according to recruiting rankings.. He took lower level guys, like Connor Williams, and developed them over 4 to 5 years.

I also don't get the narrative that Wickline has been a terrible recruiter. If we land one or two more guys like Connor Williams we will be in business. It's not like anyone thought Williams was going to be a stud because of his 3 star ranking. I mean Wickline has already substantially upgraded our talent pool with Williams alone.

I hate to say this, but Wickline has probably overachieved with the talent pool he has on the offensive line. I don't know what people expect from Wickline when his entire strategy at OSU was to develop players over a 4.to 5 year period, yet we aren't even 1 and a half years in at Texas. I guarantee Wickline is pissed he even has to play Vahe and Williams, because that's completely antithetical to what he likes to do in terms of building an offensive line. It's also why I was not remotely surprised Wickline was attempting to RS both the JUCO OL.

Utis,

I know you are a fan of Wickline but to say Wickline has over achieved with this group of guys is flat out ridiculous.  You believe Wickline is the reason Conner Williams came in as a true freshman being a surprise and giving Wickline the credit for that is rather generous at best.

Wickline has had 2 offseasons and 19 games and the OL is absolutely terrible.  Where is his development of Doyle, Hutchins, Flowers, etc.  If you are talking about Doyles ability to block air then yes he has really progressed.

Its always amazing to me, some you guys just flat fail to see what is on field and make excuses for the piss poor development.  There is always an excuse for the lack of development of these players  Here lets get them all out of the way:  Suspensions, lack of talent, Lack of pride, work ethic, metal dulness, complicated blocking schemes, blah blah blah. I guess every OL student we have brought in over the last 4 falls in the "incapable" category somehow.  We must be the only school in Texas with such bad luck.

Its always the players and never the coaches.  Wickline hasnt produced jack shit in a year and a half.  Thats the truth.  Want proof?  Watch the game film.

These kids are NOT progressing.  No more excuses.  At the point Ill take average developmental coach that can recruit 5 star kids.  Cause if this bunch blocking on Saturdays is everyone idea of coaching up 3 stars and squeezing blood from a turnip, well then I have to pass on that crap.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Utis,

I know you are a fan of Wickline but to say Wickline has over achieved with this group of guys is flat out ridiculous.  

The "upperclassmen" left over from Mack (excluding Hodges since he's a Wickline guy). Yes, this is all we have

Doyle-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even start at Rice. 

Flowers-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even start at Rice.

Hutchins-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even get reps at Rice, lol. 

Perkins-average tackle and above average guard. Good player but wouldn't start at elite programs. 

Hodges-only Wickline player, seems like the intention is to RS him. 

Raulerson-technically a RS SO, but i'll include him since he's a Mack recruit. He can't beat out Doyle? 

If this is all the talent you have on the offensive line in terms of juniors and seniors, you are going to be shitty. I'm in no way saying our offensive line is good, but I absolutely think Wickline has overachieved with the upperclassmen talent he has above. I honestly get sick to my stomach knowing that's all we have in terms of upperclassmen talent. You should be pissed at Mack Brown and his offensive line coach, not Wickline. 

 

[DMAC]

The upperclassmen left over from Mack (yes this is all we have). 

Doyle-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even start at Rice. 

Flowers-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even start at Rice.

Hutchins-talent level is so bad he wouldn't even get reps at Rice, lol. 

Perkins-average tackle and above average guard. Good player but wouldn't start at elite programs. 

Hodges-only Wickline player, seems like the intention is to RS him. 

If this is all the talent you have on the offensive line in terms of juniors and seniors, you are going to be shitty. I'm in no way saying our offensive line is good, but I absolutely think Wickline has overachieved with the upperclassmen talent he has above. 

Utis,

You cant have it both ways first of all you say Wickline is great developmental coach well then if we have the worst luck and every OL recruit is Macks fault and they are so bad then why hasnt Wickline worked some of GENUIS magic and made them "average" atleast.  Where is mythical up coaching Wickline has done.  Is it similar to the mythical up coaching Watson did on Swoopes that we heard all of last year?

 

[DMAC]

It was kind of odd watching Rices OL dominate with 3 freshmen on there OL.  Maybe we should hire their OL coach.  Its time show some of this up coaching we keep hearing but until then its all media hype and koolaid.  If Wick is so damn good at developing good players out of nothing then its time show it.

He has had 1.5 years and the incoming freshmen looks better prepared than the bunch he has been coaching for the prior year.

 

[utisdabomb12]

It was kind of odd watching Rices OL dominate with 3 freshmen on there OL. 

Pretty sad huh that their 3 FR are more talented than Hutchins, Doyle, and Flowers? 

 

[BevoBlake]

Utis,

You cant have it both ways first of all you say Wickline is great developmental coach well then if we have the worst luck and every OL recruit is Macks fault and they are so bad then why hasnt Wickline worked some of GENUIS magic and made them "average" atleast. Where is mythical up coaching Wickline has done. Is it similar to the mythical up coaching Watson did on Swoopes that we heard all of last year?

You're doing exactly what you're claiming others are doing with players, with coaches.

If I'm a top of the line chef, is it the expectation of the customers that I can magically turn a carrot into a tomato. No. That's a little preposterous right?

By your logic, it's only coincidental that the players playing best on our offensive line are Wickline's recruits. It has nothing to do with Mack grabbing low hanging fruit. Your stance is hypocritical if we're being nice and largely flawed if we're being honest.

Some kids can't be coached. Swoopes will never be an elite QB. Regardless of who coaches him. You'd agree with that sentiment wouldn't you? Yet you won't say the same for the O-Line because it doesn't fit your narrative.

You've made good points. This isn't one of them. Our O-Line is struggling because Wickline was left with no capable starters. That's why we're starting multiple freshman on our line. And that's why those freshman have performed better than their Mack recruited upper classmen teammates. 18 games and Wickline is expected to have 3 below average offensive lineman playing like the Great Wall. Okay.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Utis,

You cant have it both ways first of all you say Wickline is great developmental coach well then if we have the worst luck and every OL recruit is Macks fault 

You can't develop players like Doyle, Hutchins and Flowers. They don't have a bit of talent. 

I guess I should have specified development of players Wickline recruited. Let me put it this way, Vahe has probably been the most improved player each game. Want to know why? Wickline development. Doyle, Hutchins and Flowers aren't going to improve regardless of the coach. They suck, it is what it is.