Stay Classy Mack!

[monarch]

Ok gents, let us cut to the chase...

Although, I have never acquired the religious zealotry to actually walk around with a "halo" upon my head, I would like to think that my parents raised a normally decent man. However, having openly acknowledged this particular trait regarding myself, I can honestly admit to anyone of you...that I am also that very same man that wanted Mack Brown fired several years past. But after watching the BYU catastrophe unfold before my very eyes....that very same sentiment has somehow compounded itself into a feverish pitch...

I have a sister that has graduated with an MBA, as per Baylor. My other sister has graduated with an MBA, as per aTm. Therefore, you'd think that from a mental standpoint...that I would be mud footing around like a cast member of the "Walking Dead". Trust me, it ain't easy sometimes. But since I bleed "burnt orange" GOD's grace, has kept me upon the straight and narrow.

Gents / ladies, please allow me to state in the most simple fashion. "I love the University of Texas". And as I have stated upon one of my earlier threads, "my horns have been up, every since I was a kid in elementary". Therefore, it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to read / hear statements, regarding Mack Brown becoming more and more emboldened / defiant upon each and every new gridiron victory.

Mack Brown, has presented to "Longhorn Nation" so many cherish-able / fond memories. Winning the 2005 CFB National Championship, is something that I shall take to my grave, as the most heartwarming and yet thrilling evening ever upon my life. I am just a simple guy. I just do not feel worthy enough to espouse upon all of the great accomplishments that Mack Brown has delivered upon our great UT institution. But I am man enough to thank him! I thank him.. as per the simple "grace" that he shown throughout his tenure at the helm of Longhorn football. Not to mention, his overall and enduring compassion for others...

Now having stated this, I shall like to take a moment to issue a "plea" to Mack Brown. No matter the outcome upon the end of the season. Please depart with the class / grace / dignity that has surrounded you as per these several years. Please do not bestow upon the University of Texas, an uncanny, and yet unnecessary amount of turmoil / mayhem, that would be quite evident should you present any unkind acts of defiance, upon the face of an impending departure as UT Head Coach. This defiance, shall undoubtably lead to a media over sensationalism, which in turn would make the institution...a national laughingstock / disgrace. Recruits, along with their families, would become deterred as per this confusion...and would relinquish their already fragile commitments. Head coaching frontrunners, would undoubtably perform upon the same fashion. (this could become a profound and yet major embarrassment) unparalleled.

Mack Brown, your "legacy" at the University of Texas has from the very beginning been placed upon the palm's of your hands. These very same "hands" that are now bearing a sparkling diamond "Championship" ring upon it's finger. Keep this "legacy" as graceful as your many victories. And yet, as "classy" even during the hurt / futility of the once mounting "losses". HOOK'EM!

 

[TheContractor]

Nicely stated. Thank you Mack but your time has come to an end at Texas. Maybe in a few years the LHN could have a job for you but enjoy retirement.

I hope he leaves professionally and happily but IMO, he will not. Unless the bottom falls out, 2 or more losses Mack Brown will be defiant and will not leave The Univeristy of Texas at Austin unless he is forced out. If we are >8-4 Mack Brown will not go quiet. It will get ugly and hopefully our BMD will be able to clean it up and the next AD and coaches will be able to make it a smooth transition.

Come December 8th after the Bu game, Mack Brown will say, "I will be HC next year at Texas."

 

[UTfish]

Your opinion is well stated, Monarch, and it shows that you have a decent education, although you should say "I have a sister who...", not, " I have a sister that...". However, I do not agree with you. You call yourself a "fan", but you are not. You and several other posters on this board are only fairweather fans, spoiled rotten by the same man you now wish to "fire". He has the best record of any coach in Texas' history, including the beloved Darrel Royal. One losing season in 16 years and you are calling for his head because you don't feel like you can puff your chest out and strut around boasting of your Longhorn loyalty. In truth, your negativity on the board does a lot more damage to recruiting and morale than any loss on the football field.

I'm sure Coach Brown would like to have your phone number so he can call you for advice on class.

Speaking of Coach Royal, one of his famous quotes was, "You dance with the one who brung you". I know you're unhappy that we're not winning every ball game, so am I, but quit your whining. Mack Brown is a great man, and one of the greatest coaches in history, and he is making the changes he needs to get back on track. Manny Diaz was a mistake that has been corrected, so suck it up and give Mack a little more time.

Be careful of what you wish for. If you do get your present wish, are you going to call for the head of the new coach if his teams don't win the conference championship or national championship every year? By the way, just who is this coach/god you think will grant your wish?

 

[monarch]

Your opinion is well stated, Monarch, and it shows that you have a decent education, although you should say "I have a sister who...", not, " I have a sister that...". However, I do not agree with you. You call yourself a "fan", but you are not. You and several other posters on this board are only fairweather fans, spoiled rotten by the same man you now wish to "fire". He has the best record of any coach in Texas' history, including the beloved Darrel Royal. One losing season in 16 years and you are calling for his head because you don't feel like you can puff your chest out and strut around boasting of your Longhorn loyalty. In truth, your negativity on the board does a lot more damage to recruiting and morale than any loss on the football field.
I'm sure Coach Brown would like to have your phone number so he can call you for advice on class.

Speaking of Coach Royal, one of his famous quotes was, "You dance with the one who brung you". I know you're unhappy that we're not winning every ball game, so am I, but quit your whining. Mack Brown is a great man, and one of the greatest coaches in history, and he is making the changes he needs to get back on track. Manny Diaz was a mistake that has been corrected, so suck it up and give Mack a little more time.

Be careful of what you wish for. If you do get your present wish, are you going to call for the head of the new coach if his teams don't win the conference championship or national championship every year? By the way, just who is this coach/god you think will grant your wish?

UTfish,

I am much obliged as per your literary / grammar proficiency. I always prefer to believe that a person (s) may learn something new upon each and every day. However, you may want to take a good look at your first sentence. It seemed to run-on forever...

Did you really read my post? For I was more than a bit complimentary of Mack Brown. Even "Helen Keller" could see this. You have taken the initiative to say that "I am not a fan". Then you backtracked, and referred to me as a "fair-weathered fan". Then you further stated that I was among the "spoiled rotten"....

Well, please allow me to state that "I have no problem with constructive criticism". You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but you are not entitled as per your own facts!

I'd like to think that we are all family upon this open forum. And yet we really do not know anything about each other intimately. So please allow me to say this, "the one person, that I could very easily foresee as being "spoiled rotten" would indeed have to be Mack Brown". Throughout these past several years, I have spent a small fortune upon all things "Longhorns". And I do mean all things....

And I am only referencing myself. For I can only imagine infusing all of the other "posters" that you are ranting about. All the revenue that undoubtably has added up to some degree...shall head straight into the coffers supplying Belmont.

Mack Brown has done his job, and the fans have made him rich. It is indeed time for him to depart with the "grace, class, as well as dignity" that I have stated beforehand. HOOK'EM!

 

[hornrush]

Your opinion is well stated, Monarch, and it shows that you have a decent education, although you should say "I have a sister who...", not, " I have a sister that...". However, I do not agree with you. You call yourself a "fan", but you are not. You and several other posters on this board are only fairweather fans, spoiled rotten by the same man you now wish to "fire". He has the best record of any coach in Texas' history, including the beloved Darrel Royal. One losing season in 16 years and you are calling for his head because you don't feel like you can puff your chest out and strut around boasting of your Longhorn loyalty. In truth, your negativity on the board does a lot more damage to recruiting and morale than any loss on the football field.
I'm sure Coach Brown would like to have your phone number so he can call you for advice on class.

Speaking of Coach Royal, one of his famous quotes was, "You dance with the one who brung you". I know you're unhappy that we're not winning every ball game, so am I, but quit your whining. Mack Brown is a great man, and one of the greatest coaches in history, and he is making the changes he needs to get back on track. Manny Diaz was a mistake that has been corrected, so suck it up and give Mack a little more time.

Be careful of what you wish for. If you do get your present wish, are you going to call for the head of the new coach if his teams don't win the conference championship or national championship every year? By the way, just who is this coach/god you think will grant your wish?

Fish,

I also take exception to your reply.

I have never been "all-in" with Mack Brown since his hiring. My reasoning has always had to do with coaching style and technique going back to his days at UNC and the time that I got to know him there and through his first seasons at UT. Personally? He's a great guy. He's also (in my opinion) in line for a statue for bringing back the name and prestige of Texas Football. So many political paybacks, lost seasons and facilities wear were due to some real hatred between certain BOR (who are now dead thankfully!) and DKR and Mack swept all of that away, brought back DKR and brought UT back from near oblivion to what it is today. I will always be grateful to him for that. I'm also grateful for the 2005 MNC and the '08 and '09 seasons.

But one of the greatest coaches in history? TWO conference championships in his entire career. Two. His best seasons, those that were on the brink of a CC or MNC were directly responsible for having a transformative QB leading those teams. 10 wins season are not good enough. Playing 2nd fiddle to ou 8 blessed times is not good enough. Losing our footing and our hold on recruiting battles is not good enough. Missing on (and not just a couple but a lot) several blue-chip players over the years while many of his "can't miss" have missed more than the national average . . . is not good enough. Taking 4 years to recover from a title game in 2009 he though he should have won when coaches like Saban, Meyer, Stoops and others were winning championships in 2 years is not good enough.

Build the man his statue. Reward him for what he's accomplished but it's time we moved to the next level. Winning matters. Championships matter. We shouldn't let the bar be set by the okies or some other program. The Texas Longhorns should be setting the standard.

Argue with that.

Hook'em!

 

[UTK66]

And here we go.

 

[Mulligan30]

Your opinion is well stated, Monarch, and it shows that you have a decent education, although you should say "I have a sister who...", not, " I have a sister that...". However, I do not agree with you. You call yourself a "fan", but you are not. You and several other posters on this board are only fairweather fans, spoiled rotten by the same man you now wish to "fire". He has the best record of any coach in Texas' history, including the beloved Darrel Royal. One losing season in 16 years and you are calling for his head because you don't feel like you can puff your chest out and strut around boasting of your Longhorn loyalty. In truth, your negativity on the board does a lot more damage to recruiting and morale than any loss on the football field.
I'm sure Coach Brown would like to have your phone number so he can call you for advice on class.

Speaking of Coach Royal, one of his famous quotes was, "You dance with the one who brung you". I know you're unhappy that we're not winning every ball game, so am I, but quit your whining. Mack Brown is a great man, and one of the greatest coaches in history, and he is making the changes he needs to get back on track. Manny Diaz was a mistake that has been corrected, so suck it up and give Mack a little more time.

Be careful of what you wish for. If you do get your present wish, are you going to call for the head of the new coach if his teams don't win the conference championship or national championship every year? By the way, just who is this coach/god you think will grant your wish?

So you are letting Mack off because of the Diaz excuse? If Mack sticks around, what excuse will he Mack get when his team underperforms again? Mack was the head coach against BYU and Ole Miss. He is the one who kept Diaz after Texas had their worst defense they ever had.

There are several coaches who would most likely do better, but Saban is as close to a sure thing that there is. Texas is soft and needs a culture change starting at the top.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I couldn't have said farewell to Mack Brown any better myself.

Nice posts, both Monarch and HornRush! True fans and Texas-Exes both appreciate what Mack has brought to the Texas Football program the past 16 years. But, much like a pitcher who has lost his fastball, it is time to move on. Let's build Mack a statue on the corner of DKR and hire him as a LHN color analyst and Coach Emeritus.

Indeed. Stay classy, Mack!

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Mack Brown will go down historically as nearly as great of a coach as DKR when it comes to Texas football. Nobody can deny what kind of success that he enjoyed here. He put Texas football back on the map and won our first national title in 35 years and nearly won a couple more along the way. All Longhorn fans should thank Mack for that.

However, it doesn't change the fact that Mack needs to step away regardless of how this season finishes. It's great that he's on a nice win streak and defeated OU. It doesn't change the fact that right now we are falling behind aggy with the top talent in-state. It doesn't change the fact that Mack failed to make a change at defensive coordinator after last season's train wreck and it cost us 2 losses this year. It doesn't change the fact that we are in year 4 of his "rebuild" and were out of the national title picture by week 3.

Name another coach who was still as successful in year 15 as he was during his prime. It just doesn't happen. Things get stale. Rivals get better. Coaches lose the edge that made them great previously. For ever Nick Saban who is still as great as he was 10 years ago, you have Lloyd Carr's and Phil Fulmer's and the like who never could regain their past glory. It's time to make a change. It's past time. Most schools never would have allowed Mack another chance after 5-7 and the mass exodus of coaches after that. He's had his chance plus some. For every year Mack is kept around it delays the process that much longer and makes it that much more difficult to recruit. Everyone knows he's about to leave. Schools like aggy and Baylor and Tech are having a field day right now with the way things are here. Not addressing the elephant in the room is a disservice to the fans, donors, alumni and especially the next coach whomever he might be.

 

[Longhorns96]

DKR had 3 national titles and 11 conference championships. Do you still think Mack is in there same league as Royal?

Mack needs to leave. Plain and simple. Thank you for what you have given us, and thank you for putting Texas back on the national map, where we belong. Now, enjoy retirement and let Sally bake you some more cookies.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

DKR had 3 national titles and 11 conference championships. Do you still think Mack is in there same league as Royal?
Mack needs to leave. Plain and simple. Thank you for what you have given us, and thank you for putting Texas back on the national map, where we belong. Now, enjoy retirement and let Sally bake you some more cookies.

I said Mack is nearly in the same league as Royal. DKR is clearly better. But the coaching job that Mack did to resurrect the program and turn it into the cash making monster that it is needs to be recognized.

 

[Black Scholes]

Your opinion is well stated, Monarch, and it shows that you have a decent education, although you should say "I have a sister who...", not, " I have a sister that...". However, I do not agree with you. You call yourself a "fan", but you are not. You and several other posters on this board are only fairweather fans, spoiled rotten by the same man you now wish to "fire". He has the best record of any coach in Texas' history, including the beloved Darrel Royal. One losing season in 16 years and you are calling for his head because you don't feel like you can puff your chest out and strut around boasting of your Longhorn loyalty. In truth, your negativity on the board does a lot more damage to recruiting and morale than any loss on the football field.
I'm sure Coach Brown would like to have your phone number so he can call you for advice on class.

Speaking of Coach Royal, one of his famous quotes was, "You dance with the one who brung you". I know you're unhappy that we're not winning every ball game, so am I, but quit your whining. Mack Brown is a great man, and one of the greatest coaches in history, and he is making the changes he needs to get back on track. Manny Diaz was a mistake that has been corrected, so suck it up and give Mack a little more time.

Be careful of what you wish for. If you do get your present wish, are you going to call for the head of the new coach if his teams don't win the conference championship or national championship every year? By the way, just who is this coach/god you think will grant your wish?

Ha Ha Ha!

Well played. You had me going there for a minute - I thought you were actually serious. You sound exactly like some of the trolls on OB.

 

[c.c.rider]

I said Mack is nearly in the same league as Royal. DKR is clearly better. But the coaching job that Mack did to resurrect the program and turn it into the cash making monster that it is needs to be recognized.

so recognize him

throw him a parade ...throw some money at him..........but for all that's holy don't let the man stay around for another 2-3 years in order to break DKR's win record

~~ we don't owe him that

 

[Black Scholes]

Yeah, that's a big issue for me too. Have no doubt - Mack wants that record.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Yeah, that's a big issue for me too. Have no doubt - Mack wants that record.

There's not a chance in hell that Mack deserves that record.