RANDOLPH DUKE THE AGS LOVE YOU

[MBHORNSFAN]

Nothing to see here move along

 

[Randolph Duke]

Doesn't matter, not fraud.

So lying and blatant dishonesty as a culture doesn't bother you in the least, as long as someone, somewhere, comes up with the opinion that it isn't actionable fraud. Interesting.

How can a half a million alumni place such a low priority on integrity as a personal value? Please explain that to me.

I don't expect any of the aggys to admit wrongdoing even if the Attorney General does come out against the school. You have such a cult mentality that you refuse to look at yourselves objectively, so it is unreasonable after acting so dishonestly about the trademark for this long that you would start being honest at this point.

But please explain to me why aggys place such a low value on personal integrity. How can you encourage those searching for a college education to embrace the values of an institution that is dishonest at its core and whose administrators and alumni place such a low value on personal integrity? Do you think you are doing these kids any favor by teaching them to lie to themselves and to others? Are you proud of the twisted and disreputable values you are passing down to others? Can you look at yourselves in the mirror knowing how dishonest you are as a culture?

I honestly don't understand why you cling to tenaciously to lies and fight so hard against acting with honesty and integrity. Help me understand all this.

 

[BeardedTexan]

You lose, good day sir.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

That's how I took it too. However it does state that aggy wasn't the first to use it and their sacred fabled tradition may be just that, a fable. Like I stated earlier, they didn't invent it, they were just the first to trademark it.

I guess I was expecting more too. Hate to use the word flop but it was pretty much anti climatic for sure.

 

[Randolph Duke]

You lose, good day sir.

So you aren't going to even try to explain why you guys are so adamant about not being honest about your school's history and you claim that as a victory. Interesting, but I would expect nothing else from those who lack integrity.

"Doesn't Matter, Not Fraud" isn't much of a university motto, but I guess if that is the best you can do, it's the best you can do.

Eventually, my dishonest friend. Eventually the lack of integrity will catch up with you guys.

 

[BeardedTexan]

Just admit you lost this already. Move on to some other crusade where you might actually have something to show for all of your insane effort.

 

[Randolph Duke]

lol. As much as you, as well as many others, cannot imagine it ever happening, some day honesty and intellectual integrity will become values that are taught at Texas A&M University.

 

[BeardedTexan]

Why do you keep responding just to me? Why not respond to the other posters in here that have called this an epic failure?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

The only opinion that matters on whether the university has acted unlawfully or not is that of the Texas Attorney General.  I am confident we will have that opinion soon.

If you think a politician like Ken Paxton is gonna risk alienating a large donor and voter base over a trademark dispute you should prepare to be disappointed. Just my two cents. I doubt the juice is worth the squeeze to him.

It certainly wasn't for the Seahawks, Bills, and Colts. They basically said, "Screw it. We'll call our fan base something else."

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Nothing to see here move along

Yep, much ado about nothing.

 

[doc longhorn]

One thing I will never understand is why the ags refuse to be honest with the public about the origins of their traditions. Why is it that the last options the aggys choose every time are the option to act honestly and with integrity. Beard, my friend, maybe you can explain it to me.

LOL!  Seriously?  Based on the oldest "tradition" they had (playing UT) aggy has proven they really don't know the meaning of tradition.

So, you thinking they are being dishonest is irrelevant.

They could care less about "traditions".  It's all bullsh*t anyway.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I have been watching twitter, message boards, national news sites, etc etc. No one seems to care abut this story since Texas monthly posted it. 

 

[doc longhorn]

I have been watching twitter, message boards, national news sites, etc etc. No one seems to care abut this story since Texas monthly posted it. 

So I guessed right.  When did TM post it?

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

So I guessed right.  When did TM post it?

Posted March 7th. http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/12th-man-tradition/I hate to pile on but there has been literally no coverage, 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Posted March 7th. http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/12th-man-tradition/I hate to pile on but there has been literally no coverage, 

Maybe so, but that might be thanks to an inherent disinterest in things aggy more than anything else. History tends to bore today's fast food society.

That said, I give props to Duke for making the pages of Texas Monthly – by screen name even. I don't think anyone else here has done that. And to his credit, the TM writer seemed to have great respect for Duke.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Maybe so, but that might be thanks to an inherent disinterest in things aggy more than anything else. History tends to bore today's fast food society.

That said, I give props to Duke for making the pages of Texas Monthly – by screen name even. I don't think anyone else here has done that. And to his credit, the TM writer seemed to have great respect for Duke.

Very possible. Also I'm not slamming RD's crusade. It's his time and effort so to each their own. My only thought is that no one outside of a few aggys no one really cares about the subject matter. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Very possible. Also I'm not slamming RD's crusade. It's his time and effort so to each their own. My only thought is that no one outside of a few aggys no one really cares about the subject matter. 

If it were Bama, OU or Texas . . it would get some play. But aggy, not so much.

I'll say this, I'd never want RD researching against me. lol

 

[BeardedTexan]

If you want free money, bet John Sharp his 12th Man trademark fraud is going to be exposed within the next two weeks.

Alright Duke, it's been two weeks and this has not happened. And don't you dare say having a blog post on TexasMonthly's website counts.

You, in no way, can say that your effort has has been anything but an undeniable failure.

You have lost, move on.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Alright Duke, it's been two weeks and this has not happened. And don't you dare say having a blog post on TexasMonthly's website counts.

You, in no way, can say that your effort has has been anything but an undeniable failure.

You have lost, move on.

1) it wasn't a blog post. It was the online edition of the magazine, but I understand your confusion. I'm guessing you don't read much so it's somewhat unfair to expect you to know the difference

and

2) I'm not the one continuing to worship a fairy tale, reusing to acknowledge legitimate Texas history or knowingly lying at ever turn because the truth is too uncomfortable. 

It amazes me that a major institution of higher education promotes ignorance so stridently and how its alumni base so much of their group identity on a fabricated story. Not only a fabricated story, but one where the principle actor in the story has himself repeatedly explained when, why and by whom the fabrication was originated. If you think those attributes make you guys "winners" than pat yourselves on your backs and congratulate yourselves. Ignorance is powerful in some cultures.

At the end of the day, there is no question the school adopted the 12th Man mark as a remembrance of E. King Gill, a student at TAMU, sometime after a 1939 radio play loosely based on a 1922 football game.

aggys pride their institution on being a major research university. I hope the rest of your school's research product isn't as intellectually dishonest as your research into your institution's history and traditions.

No one who lies to themselves on a regular basis because they aren't mature enough to be able to live with the truth can be considered a "winner" but tell yourselves you are "winners" if that is what you need to do to be able to find something in your culture that makes you feel good about yourselves. Your "tradition" is still built on a foundation of lies. The state of Texas deserves better.

 

[BeardedTexan]

That's a lot of words just to say "You're right, and I hate myself for it"