New Big 12 members

[drgilbert]

 

[UTfish]

No. Recruiting door is already open to us in Florida as much as it's going to be.  No need to open ours for them.  Keep our players in state.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

No. Recruiting door is already open to us in Florida as much as it's going to be.  No need to open ours for them.  Keep our players in state.

Good grief, people, realignment isn't about recruiting or political influence. It's about the money - TV in particular. UCF and USF don't move the dial enough for Big 12 membership. 

Yes, this year was an anomaly because UCF was the gritty underdog. Anybody have the Peach Bowl's TV ratings? Playing on NYD always helps. 

Here's a link to our mega-thread on the topic;

Big 12 Expansion Project

...and all of the analysis you'd ever want to read @

Big 12 Fanatics

 

[dillohorn]

Hell Fking NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

 

[tejasrulz]

Little know fact, UCF is the largest university in Florida.

The Big XII needs to expand, whether we like it or not,

 

[MikeV73]

Hell Fking NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

So I'm a little unclear on your position?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Little know fact, UCF is the largest university in Florida.

The Big XII needs to expand, whether we like it or not,

Looked it up and was surprised to find out that it's the largest university in the country...

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Little know fact, UCF is the largest university in Florida.

The Big XII needs to expand, whether we like it or not,

Why does the Big 12 need to expand in a cord-cutting, ala carte programming world? ESPN is losing money and none of the conference networks nor LHN will ever reach their initial financial projections. Who's gonna pay for the Big 12 to add two G5 schools? Just playing devil's advocate here. 

We've talked Big 12 expansion to death and nothing ever happens.

 

[MikeV73]

Looked it up and was surprised to find out that it's the largest university in the country...

Aggie will put some shanties on campus and fill them with homeless people and make their numbers bigger.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Aggie will put some shanties on campus and fill them with homeless people and make their numbers bigger.

I had an aggy brag to me about how A&M is now bigger than UT.

My response? "Just because y'all enrolled a few thousand more kids who couldn't get into UT doesn't necessarily make A&M better." 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I had an aggy brag to me about how A&M is now bigger than UT.

My response? "Just because y'all enrolled a few thousand more kids who couldn't get into UT doesn't necessarily make A&M better." 

Its an attempt to create more saturation and influence, same as the Dems have been doing with importing refugees from poor countries (aka s%^*hole countries).

UCF, IMO, would bare SOME consideration simply because of the potential. At the same time, you have to question bringing aboard a larger institution and giving up big dog status. You can't just look at UCF in the here and now. You have to look down the road.

USF - No and why would you? If you take UCF, you don't need USF. You're in Florida at that point. Enjoy the recruiting.

Florida schools have been all over Texas for quite some time. Having UCF doesn't open any more doors in Texas that aren't already open.

All that said, no. Just no. Geographically we'd be a hodge podge conference, a lot like CUSA was/is.

It has to make sense and it has to be closer to everyone else, IMO

 

[dillohorn]

Big 12 should change its name to the Big 10 and leave things the way they are. No expansion  is needed or helpful in my opinion. Just my 2 cents worth. We better just start trying to beat the teams we have now.

 

[MikeV73]

Big 12 should change its name to the Big 10 and leave things the way they are. No expansion  is needed or helpful in my opinion. Just my 2 cents worth. We better just start trying to beat the teams we have now.

Big 10 is trademarked already....by a conference with 12 + teams.  Ironic.

 

[dillohorn]

Big 10 is trademarked already....by a conference with 12 + teams.  Ironic.

Yeah, the B1G.

 

[echeese]

Little know fact, UCF is the largest university in Florida.

The Big XII needs to expand, whether we like it or not,

UCF sits in Orlando, the largest TV market in the country without an NFL or Power 5 team (pretty sure this is correct).

Playing in a big time conference would boost their ratings AND would create more interest in the Orlando market.

Add them and BYU.  Or add them BYU and one of Cincy/Memphis on one side and Colo St or Air Force on the other (to pull the Denver markets)

Big 10 is trademarked already....by a conference with 12 + teams.  Ironic.

BigXII has BigXIV and BigXVI trademarked as well.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Can't wait for the day when college football goes to a 64 team conference/division format like the NFL where everyone plays a balanced schedule and there are real playoffs. Or some variation using some other number. 

Hell, I guarantee you I could figure out how to make it work and I am not even close to being a "rocket scientist". 

 

[echeese]

Can't wait for the day when college football goes to a 64 team conference/division format like the NFL where everyone plays a balanced schedule and there are real playoffs. Or some variation using some other number. 

Hell, I guarantee you I could figure out how to make it work and I am not even close to being a "rocket scientist". 

One of my buddies is a PHd at Rockwell, he hates it when we call him Dr & Rocket Scientist.

But to your point, you can make it work with 4 conferences, 8 division built around the power 5 without the BigXII-2 and go from 64 to 80 teams without any real problem.

I need to find the spread sheet I did, using attendance as a key factor.   Why not support programs which are supported by their fans. . . 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

If you needed another reason not to consider a move to the proposed Pac-16...

'New Calfornia' Declares Independence - From California, Not U.S.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Can't wait for the day when college football goes to a 64 team conference/division format like the NFL where everyone plays a balanced schedule and there are real playoffs. Or some variation using some other number. 

Hell, I guarantee you I could figure out how to make it work and I am not even close to being a "rocket scientist".