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My thoughts on Saturday's game

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1-We need to see improvement. That's the most important thing. 

2-I've never thought we were going to be good this year, which is why I predicted 7-5 (and I'm a homer). The roster simply isn't any good outside the FR class. There's some pieces outside of the FR class, but not much. It is what it is. 

3-I honestly can't judge Watson or Swoopes. The O-line is terrible, absolutely terrible. Our best blocker is Williams, and he's a FR. Doyle and Flowers are just atrocious. I don't know what Wickline's gameplan is to beh honest. The talent simply isn't there outside of the '15 class, and they are going to make young mistakes. 

4-Defensively I don't think we were terrible. Like last year, they eventually wore down in the second half. Definitely some mistakes, but in all in all it wasn't terrible. Haines probably needs to be benched, but who are you going to roll with? Another FR? Like I said above, the roster is terrible and Haines is really the only choice unless you want to go younger. 

5-ND's offensive line dominated, but that will easily be the best offensive line we face this year. 

6-Heard or Swoopes really makes no difference if you ask me. Neither QB is going to succeed if the offensive line can't block. Heard won't make it through an entire game with this offensive line. I do think Heard gives us an option with his legs but should be used in certain spots. 

7-I think the writing is on the wall that we are about to go young. When I say young, younger than anyone expected. Guys like Boyd and Hager probably aren't ready but are just more talented than the other options we have in terms of upperclassman. 

8-The most important thing right now is recruiting. We have to stockpile some talent. Charlie said he needed another recruiting class for good reason. The roster isn't there and he's no dumbass. But there comes a point we have to stop blaming Mack and Strong has to start producing.

 
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You hit the nail on the head on a lot of these points.  It's not a popular sentiment but fans need to come to the reality that this team is still in rebuild mode.  A season and a game isn't enough time to get your (Strong's) system in place. Fans should demand the best but expectations need to be tempered into the reality of what this team and program is right now.

 
Heard/Swoopes debate seems to be the hot topic. I know I'm probably in the minority here, but if Heard isn't ready he isn't ready. The only benefit I see in starting Heard is the zone read game would help simplify some offensive line schemes. I also see a lot of consequences in starting Heard. For one, he's going to get murdered behind our offensive line. Also, putting Heard behind our O-line is going to kill his development. Having Heard just scramble around will teach him a plethora of bad habits. 

I'm not saying Swoopes is a great QB, but our offensive line is atrocious. Bad offensive lines make it almost impossible for effective QB play. If you want a good example of this look no further than Penn State. They have arguably a top 5 QB in college football with a ton of WR weapons, and they scored tens points against Temple this weekend. Want to know why.....their offensive line is a joke. 

Bottom line, there aren't easy answers. This is a rebuild that's going to take time. Maybe Heard is a gamer and our long term answer at QB, but I don't think Heard vs Swoopes makes a huge difference right now. Have to fix the O-line first. 

The underlying problem for everything right now is pretty simple if you ask me. Flowers and Doyle aren't D1 offensive lineman, Perkins should be playing somewhere like Texas State, and Vahe/Williams are true freshman. The more I look at the offensive line the more it makes sense. 

We suck right now. Is getting Heard some reps right now worth hurting his development and getting him killed? I'm thinking long term and why I've always thought Strong was the best man for the job. This is a 3 to 4 year project, always ways. 

 
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Heard/Swoopes debate seems to be the hot topic. I know I'm probably in the minority here, but if Heard isn't ready he isn't ready. 
My only problem here is Heard hasnt been given a chance at all.  Two series?  On that point Swoopes hasnt been ready either.

You do realize we punted more than we had pass completions?

I think Watson loves Swoopes.  Why I dont know.  I believe Swoopes is prefered because Watson like to throw 50+ yarders (or attempt) on 3rd and three.  Basic playground mentality - go long.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2015/9/6/9269697/texas-longhorns-offense-shawn-watson-play-calling

Grey had 2 carries in the first half.

 
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My only problem here is Heard hasnt been given a chance at all.  Two series?  On that point Swoopes hasnt been ready either.

You do realize we punted more than we had pass completions?

I think Watson loves Swoopes.  Why I dont know.  I believe Swoopes is prefered because Watson like to throw 50+ yarders (or attempt) on 3rd and three.  Basic playground mentality - go long.

Grey had 2 carries in the first half.
1-Heard has been given chances in practices. Based on almost all the fall and spring reports Swoopes has outperformed Heard. Maybe Heard is a gamer but that's just a hope and a prayer. I actually have faith in Heard but I also know he's a RS FR that probably isn't ready. 

2-Yes, I know we punted more than we had pass completions. Obviously our offense is terrible. 

3-Watson doesn't love Swoopes. He's rolling with the best QB he has right now. It's that simple. You have misplaced anger at Watson, you should be pissed at what Mack Brown left Watson to work with. 

4-Gray probably should have had more touches. I don't think it would have made a huge difference in the ND game, but going forward he should get more touches. I think Gray is  overrated, but the offensive line might be an issue there. I actually think Foreman is the better RB. 

 
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3-Watson doesn't love Swoopes. He's rolling with the best QB he has right now. It's that simple. You have misplaced anger at Watson, you should be pissed at what Mack Brown left Watson to work with. 
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2015/9/6/9269697/texas-longhorns-offense-shawn-watson-play-calling

I ve watched the interviews with Watson like you have I am sure.  I do think Watson is hell bent on seeing Ty win.  References such as I see him like a son etc.  Hell even a reporter asked CS today if Watsons judgement is clouded by Watsons feeling towards Tyrone.

 
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Ok each to his own but screenshots are screenshots.

Watson is terrible. Calling Watson an offensive guru because of Teddy is like calling Greg Davis a legend because of VY.

The last 2 games rank as the worst games in the last 15 years from a first down perspective.

I have lost all faith in Watson.  Yet again we hear after ND that progress is being made.  I dont see it.

 
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I ve watched the interviews with Watson like you have I am sure.  I do think Watson is hell bent on seeing Ty win.  References such as I see him like a son etc.  Hell even a reporter asked CS today if Watsons judgement is clouded by Watsons feeling towards Tyrone.
He said he loves all his QBs and wants to see them all succeed. 

You are overthinking this. It's very simple, the staff thinks Swoopes is better right now. Based on practice reports from fall and spring practices, almost all the media felt the same way. If Heard was the better option he would be out there. Like I said, maybe Heard is a gamer. I hope he is, but that's just a prayer on our parts. 

 
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Enough of this "rebuilding" talk... Shawn Watson's offense is HORRIBLE. It's one thing to lose, its another to not be competitive. 

 
 We would not be in the shape we are in now if Strong would have just hired a successful spread coordinator. 

 
I saw some post the other day on BON.  It was something like "Why are we the only program that takes 3-4 years to rebuild"  

Granted Mack did leave this program in shambles.  You could tell when Freshman looked better than Seniors on Saturday.  That was obvious.

I just dont see Swoopes being the one leading us to any promise land.  Give Heard a chance.  Swoopes isnt dominating anything.  Atleast Heard gives us mobility.

 
 We would not be in the shape we are in now if Strong would have just hired a successful spread coordinator. 
That's another hope and prayer. Maybe we would be improved on offense, but we sure as hell wouldn't be drastically improved with the offensive line we have and QB options. 

 
Heard gives us the best chance to win because of his dual threat ability.  Our O-line can't block for 4 seconds. So let Heard make use of his feet.

 
I saw some post the other day on BON.  It was something like "Why are we the only program that takes 3-4 years to rebuild"  

Granted Mack did leave this program in shambles.  You could tell when Freshman looked better than Seniors on Saturday.  That was obvious.

I just dont see Swoopes being the one leading us to any promise land.  Give Heard a chance.  Swoopes isnt dominating anything.  Atleast Heard gives us mobility.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Swoopes is leading us to the promise land either. If he's the best option he's the best option. 

 
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