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Bama fan speaks on Coach Saban Rumors

I hate to see some of the attacks of certain posters on this board, thought I left all that crap over at OB. You sound like my 12 year old that just has to have the last word on everything, even if you don't know what your talking about. Why would anyone on a message board out their friend/source just to have your approval of their post? Just read the damn posts, if you don't agree with them or believe them just keep reading no reason to show your azz every few posts.

 
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(here is something I posted in another thread. I am cross-posting this because it is applicable to this discussion and I'm too lazy to type in another version of the same argument)

Here is Nick Saban's contract. http://www.hornsports.com/docs/Nick_Saban_Contract.pdf

The only restrictions are that he has to inform Alabama if he speaks to another school about coaching their team, he has to give 30 days notice if he is leaving and if he goes to another school and he can't talk to anyone he was recruiting for a one year period (unless the new school was already recruiting the individual). No buy-out clause.

As for his life's regret, I've heard the quote before about how he handled previous job changes. I promise you that any man who is 62 years old and not in prison regrets what he didn't do in life, not what he did do. Ask anyone who is in the final chapter of their career and one of the final chapters of their life and they will tell you regrets are over passed up opportunities in life, not about what they wish they had handled better in their younger days. Think about it. Do you regret not doing a better job of shagging that girl you nailed the spring of your senior year as an undergrad, or do you regret not also nailing that friend of hers with the incredible rack? It's one thing to be spoken of in the same breath as Bear Bryant or DKR. It's another thing entirely to be spoken of in the same breath as both of them. Few men have that ability to stand alone. The one way to get over any regrets about doing something earlier in your life is to do something later in your life no one even conceived was possible.

I'm not a believer in Saban to Texas. If he was coming here, the whole matter would have been handled much more professionally. The school-girl drama of regents not being able to keep their mouths shut about earlier discussions is an embarrassment. No wonder our entire BOR locked into a drama-queen battle with each other and the Legislature. We need to impeach the whole bunch of them and replace them with competent professionals. It would be a refreshing change.

Bellmont is full of drama, our BOR is even worse and those clowns are trying to get a top level professional to get involved with all the crap? Never.gonna.happen.

We need to find one person who is competent and capable of handling the hiring and firing decisions within the athletic department. Bob Bowlsby managed to hire both Harbaugh and Shaw at Stanford. There are competent people out there who know how to conduct business in a quiet, professional manner. Obviously, Steve Patterson isn't capable of making competent hiring and firing decisions. If he were, we wouldn't have a bunch or drama queens who are unaccountable to the university or the program out with their skirts flapping in the wind squealing with teen-age excitement over Nick Saban.

Some adult needs to take control of this situation and manage the process. We need a clear voice of competence to take control of Bellmont. We need that person to speak in a clear and unequivocal voice and put an end to all the drama. Hopefully this will be the last week of all the teen-spirit scented beliebers writing Nick Saban's name in burnt orange pen every chance they get and dotting the "I" in "Nick" with a big heart. Enough. Its embarrassing. The program deserves better.

 
lol.how you come up with that?
Look, I get your position and believe it or not I actually don't believe that Saban will be our next coach. I find it hard to believe that someone would jump ship on a dynasty just for a challenge. Yes, I can buy into the arguments that have been made such as the investment losses, ect - but that doesn't mean that I blindly believe every rumor. My point to you in that comment was that just because someone can't provide absolute proof of something does not make it less true. I used religion as an example but you could say the same for love, fear, or a number of other things that can't be proven. In this case the OP asked for examples as to why we think Nick Saban would be the next HC at the University of Texas and people have responded. If you don't think he will be then don't respond because it is counterproductive to the nature and intent of a the thread. If there was a thread discussing the validity of these claims then I think that would be an appropriate forum for you to call-out people and question the arguments.

This is just my two cents and I wasn't aiming to offend you - I have no idea about your beliefs, I was just using an idea to prove a point. I guess I am guilty of veering off topic too.

 
Look, I get your position and believe it or not I actually don't believe that Saban will be our next coach. I find it hard to believe that someone would jump ship on a dynasty just for a challenge. Yes, I can buy into the arguments that have been made such as the investment losses, ect - but that doesn't mean that I blindly believe every rumor. My point to you in that comment was that just because someone can't provide absolute proof of something does not make it less true. I used religion as an example but you could say the same for love, fear, or a number of other things that can't be proven. In this case the OP asked for examples as to why we think Nick Saban would be the next HC at the University of Texas and people have responded. If you don't think he will be then don't respond because it is counterproductive to the nature and intent of a the thread. If there was a thread discussing the validity of these claims then I think that would be an appropriate forum for you to call-out people and question the arguments.
This is just my two cents and I wasn't aiming to offend you - I have no idea about your beliefs, I was just using an idea to prove a point. I guess I am guilty of veering off topic too.
you didnt offend by any means. I like that we can keep it civil on this board and still have good discussions. And you make some very good points and I will try and conduct my further posts in a better manner and perhaps pose questions to get a better understanding of where someone is coming from instead of issuing statements of my own. And your statement wasnt to far. Im not a very religious person by any means from personal experience.

 
WillieBamaBoy,

I have to second what many have already said - I REALLY appreciate how polite and respectful your posts have been coming over here to a strange board (not to mention insightful). Your example is one that we could all follow. Really appreciate you coming over and visiting us and hope that you will do so again soon. Would love to hear your take on this weeks upcoming Iron Bowl :) I just hope that we return your graciousness in kind. ;)

 
Saban is getting a big hike in pay regardless. If he stays, all this talk has incented the Bama folks to dig deep. If he comes over, he's drilling gushers. I still think the idea of being the ONLY coach to get NCs at THREE different universities is a legacy that would appeal to him and Miss Terry. He's going to live in a nice house regardless. And those salads he has everyday for lunch will continue on. I do think that demands of LHN could be a sticking point.

 
seahawkhorn
I came to this board simply to try and understand why UT fans thought that they could outspend Alabama on a college football coach.

yes, you guys could outspend us on a trip to the moon, or pretty much anything else, but

seriously,

how much are you willing to throw (I no longer will say 'pay') at Coach Saban to make him come to UT?

give me a number. Not a "more than you can" statement

give me an amount that UT can pay Coach Saban per year to come to UT

then we can talk one to one
I don't think it's how much UT, as an institution will pay. I believe it would be the investment opportunities Saban would receive, which would always be behind the scenes.

Again, I have no idea if this is happening or what the real likelihood of Saban ending up at UT

 
Saban is getting a big hike in pay regardless. If he stays, all this talk has incented the Bama folks to dig deep. If he comes over, he's drilling gushers. I still think the idea of being the ONLY coach to get NCs at THREE different universities is a legacy that would appeal to him and Miss Terry. He's going to live in a nice house regardless. And those salads he has everyday for lunch will continue on. I do think that demands of LHN could be a sticking point.
Agreed, the LHN could be a problem.

But, I'm sure we'll do whatever it takes to accommodate Saban and reach a compromise. If he only wants to put in 1 hour per week on LHN stuff...okay. We can hire Mack Brown to fill in the dead air! :P

 
man this is getting old. There are some very legitimate people who are reporting on this right now. If you dont want to believe it without documented proof then you are entitled to do that...but do you have to call out basically anyone who puts out info on the saban situation and demand they prove it to you? They dont owe you anything
Agreed. Like the Saban to Texas crowd has any proof either.

 
Look, I get your position and believe it or not I actually don't believe that Saban will be our next coach. I find it hard to believe that someone would jump ship on a dynasty just for a challenge. Yes, I can buy into the arguments that have been made such as the investment losses, ect - but that doesn't mean that I blindly believe every rumor. My point to you in that comment was that just because someone can't provide absolute proof of something does not make it less true. I used religion as an example but you could say the same for love, fear, or a number of other things that can't be proven. In this case the OP asked for examples as to why we think Nick Saban would be the next HC at the University of Texas and people have responded. If you don't think he will be then don't respond because it is counterproductive to the nature and intent of a the thread. If there was a thread discussing the validity of these claims then I think that would be an appropriate forum for you to call-out people and question the arguments.
This is just my two cents and I wasn't aiming to offend you - I have no idea about your beliefs, I was just using an idea to prove a point. I guess I am guilty of veering off topic too.
Excellent post. I might add call-outs shouldn't be tolerated. It only derails a thread. There is no one with the right or wrong answer here. No one should be calling out anyone. State your case on the TOPIC and move on.

This is an outstanding and informative thread with the exception of one poster's witch hunt throughout the night.

I am one who is skeptical of Saban despite all the forwarded emails to my acct. Yes, the stuff being reported is true. I just don't know if he will take that jet out of Tuscaloosa when it counts.

But the call-out threads are very tiring and need to be moderated. It is multiple threads in one night by one poster.

What is it going to be if 10K members?

Let's just all get along.

We are all arguing an opinion of the situation. Some have more knowledge of a situatiom than others, but it is still an opinion. No reason to call-out someone like you have the answer.

Discussion is good. On topic constructive criticism is encouraged. Call-outs, not so much.

This Bama poster set a great example. Actually, Bags and the Bama guy had a debate that was very interesting.

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to post despite the constant nagging that presented itself.

All night.

In multiple threads.

 
Terry and her kids would all MUCH rather live in Austin
please don't be presumptuous or elitist

there are enough of them in Washington DC

.....

I grew up in Tuscaloosa..........

I.....would......trade......anything......for .........that........life.........again

 
You know what we all admire about you? You came on this site and announced you were a Bama fan. You shared with us all a very good different point of view and we all appreciate that. Isn't it fun when you are able to open your mind to opposing views without arguing?

I believe another Bama poster on this thread could learn a thing or two from you!

BTW, your will always be welcome over here. We are lucky to have someone like you stop by and and share with us.

 
Oil/Gas + Texas Real Estate > anything you got in Bama
not quite

once the oil is gone (and yes, we have oil ourselves offshore, and oh by the way, Atlantic-Richfield drilled their first well on my land in Alabama in 1980, why thank you for asking!, and the gas wells they drilled are doing bangers!!.....whoops, forgot, we have got shitloads of coal too. I get funny over this one sometimes. My in-laws, dang, they can't take a **** without hitting coal. How much, about 300 years worth. Talk to me when the oil runs out.)

but most, MOST importantly

look at the map

in terms of water, and most Texans should be starting to understand how important that is to their future......

who has the most miles of river that is navigable?

who has the most lakes?

who has the most WATER....WATER... that is the oil of the future baby

Answer: Alabama

you can't drink oil or sand, so good luck RealtorHorn

 
Willie,

My son is in school for his Maritime degree. He wants to be a Captain of a boat/ship for the inland waters so, I know what you speak of. He is already being recruited by shipping companies that navigate the Mississippi.

However, I don't see the oil running out in Sabans lifetime?

 
You know what we all admire about you? You came on this site and announced you were a Bama fan. You shared with us all a very good different point of view and we all appreciate that. Isn't it fun when you are able to open your mind to opposing views without arguing?
I believe another Bama poster on this thread could learn a thing or two from you!

BTW, your will always be welcome over here. We are lucky to have someone like you stop by and and share with us.
very nice words...

I am always open to knowledge

my last post to RealtorHorn, well, I apologize

I got a little pissed.....

I am still in awe of the ignorance of Texans towards the wealth of Alabamians.

Give me the name of the Bama fan who is causing you trouble and I will talk to him. I am still learning message boards so let me know when you do and how I am supposed to know.

 
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