2015 Recruiting Season is in full swing

[DMAC]

I am just curious.  Does anyone know where Mack's first recruiting class ranked?

When Charlie was hired I read a slew of articles about how he was a great recruiter but I also read some articles that his staff at UT lacked any "Ace" recruiters.  I know he kept Chambers on staff, but IMO Chambers hasnt produced the results in the DFW area everyone has expected for years.

Before anyone here starts bashing me on Charlie criticism, I love Charlie as much as anyone.  It is just kind of weird to imagine UT as the next K-State.  Great football coached teams without the 4-5 stars.  I always imagined Charlie bringing in both great talent and coaching but for the last 2 years our recruiting classes have not been anywhere close to the UT standards.  I can understand last year since Mack's departure and to some extent this year being his first full year but this class is very mediocre especially if we lose Burt and dont get MJ.

I am sure Charlie can turn a 2 star into a 4 star, but why not bring in a Ace RC and turn a 5 star into a Heisman?

Honestly it kills me to see the booger eaters get the 5 stars

 

[Juan]

3-star TE Camrin Knight (6'4,225) of Tallahassee is setting up a visit to Austin, supposedly will be coming in with his HS teammate WR John Burt
Knight has been a Gator commit since last Feb
Chris Vaughn did an in-home with him last week
http://247sports.com/Player/Camrin-Knight-42030
 

 

[Juan]

Kris Boyd said to be leaning aggy now due to Christian Kirks

This is per Hamm -- doesnt make alot of sense to me but maybe one of you know the details?

 

[Coal Harbour]

I am just curious.  Does anyone know where Mack's first recruiting class ranked?

When Charlie was hired I read a slew of articles about how he was a great recruiter but I also read some articles that his staff at UT lacked any "Ace" recruiters.  I know he kept Chambers on staff, but IMO Chambers hasnt produced the results in the DFW area everyone has expected for years.

Before anyone here starts bashing me on Charlie criticism, I love Charlie as much as anyone.  It is just kind of weird to imagine UT as the next K-State.  Great football coached teams without the 4-5 stars.  I always imagined Charlie bringing in both great talent and coaching but for the last 2 years our recruiting classes have not been anywhere close to the UT standards.  I can understand last year since Mack's departure and to some extent this year being his first full year but this class is very mediocre especially if we lose Burt and dont get MJ.

I am sure Charlie can turn a 2 star into a 4 star, but why not bring in a Ace RC and turn a 5 star into a Heisman?

Honestly it kills me to see the booger eaters get the 5 stars

You just can't compare Mack's first recruiting class following his initial season in 1998 to what CS is doing.  Mack hit a home run with 1999 recruits, but Ricky had just won the Heisman and Texas defeated Miss St in the Cotton Bowl.  Mack had more to work with when he first arrived to the 40 than CS and the recruiting landscape was quite a bit different.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Kris Boyd said to be leaning aggy now due to Christian Kirks

This is per Hamm -- doesnt make alot of sense to me but maybe one of you know the details?

That report is likely because of a tweet from a current Aggie DB (freshman but can't remember who) who said that he 'talked to Boyd and everything is stil good'.

Boyd has been pretty pro-Longhorns on the twitter lately, but that just may be him supporting his brother - who by all account loves him some Longhorns.

At this point - if the best in Texas want to 'Miami Heat' it in College Station they should go for it.  UT had that advantage for decades, its only right the Aggies should get a few years of good fortune.  If anything this may be the impetus needed to improve what we have surrounding Strong.

 

[Juan]

OK, so aggy player Josh Walker tweeted "But Kris just gave me some good news so we straight"

*sigh*

 

[Juan]

Here is vid with Ryan Bartow on ML and DeAndre (But you may not actually want to watch)

Some good mention of Horns as well and the Florida guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFPkH3ExpE

 

[DMAC]

You just can't compare Mack's first recruiting class following his initial season in 1998 to what CS is doing.  Mack hit a home run with 1999 recruits, but Ricky had just won the Heisman and Texas defeated Miss St in the Cotton Bowl.  Mack had more to work with when he first arrived to the 40 than CS and the recruiting landscape was quite a bit different.

That is very true.  Mack had some great talent to work with.  If we miss out on Toby, Burt, MJ this class might rank 20-25.  Last year was 17th I believe.  Thats no where near the historical average during Mack's tenure.  I am just trying to understand if this is the new norm with regards to the talent we are going to be able to get.  Obviously it could get alot better before NSD but at this point its far from what I expected Charlie and staff to bring in.  Maybe im just spoiled with the old "We're Texas"

At this point - if the best in Texas want to 'Miami Heat' it in College Station they should go for it.  UT had that advantage for decades, its only right the Aggies should get a few years of good fortune.  If anything this may be the impetus needed to improve what we have surrounding Strong.

You nailed it, I was trying to be subtle but this is what I was trying to get at.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

That is very true.  Mack had some great talent to work with.  If we miss out on Toby, Burt, MJ this class might rank 20-25.  Last year was 17th I believe. Thats no where near the historical average during Mack's tenure.  I am just trying to understand if this is the new norm with regards to the talent we are going to be able to get.  Obviously it could get alot better before NSD but at this point its far from what I expected Charlie and staff to bring in.  Maybe im just spoiled with the old "We're Texas"

You nailed it, I was trying to be subtle but this is what I was trying to get at.

Macks average recruiting class rank from 2000-2013 was 6.9

I don't think high teens / low twenties is going to become the norm, but I do expect in state talent will be more evenly distributed than it has been historically and that the days of decades long dominance in recruiting are probably gone.  At least so long as Texas remains in the Big 12.

 

[DMAC]

Here is vid with Ryan Bartow on ML and DeAndre (But you may not actually want to watch)

Good vid Juan.  Hopefully Texas can get Irvin, Clarington, Baker, and Davis.  Our class is truly becoming Florida if that happens.

I wont like your post simply because of the ags 

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Some good info from Bartow - but damn does he look uncomfortable in front of the camera.  And who the hell is tailoring his suits?

 

[Juan]

Some good info from Bartow - but damn does he look uncomfortable in front of the camera.  And who the hell is tailoring his suits?

Esp in the opening sequence, when the woman is speaking, I thought he might have been late for the segment, and they put a mannequin there to hold his place.  Weird.

 

[CCausey11]

That is very true.  Mack had some great talent to work with.  If we miss out on Toby, Burt, MJ this class might rank 20-25.  Last year was 17th I believe.  Thats no where near the historical average during Mack's tenure.  I am just trying to understand if this is the new norm with regards to the talent we are going to be able to get.  Obviously it could get alot better before NSD but at this point its far from what I expected Charlie and staff to bring in.  Maybe im just spoiled with the old "We're Texas"

You nailed it, I was trying to be subtle but this is what I was trying to get at.

Very different situation and landscape.  Baylor, TCU were not a recruiting factor.  Aggy was not in SEC and we had a Heisman winner.  Things have changed big time since those days.  I think the "We're Texas" mentality is prevalent both inside the 40 and inside the fanbase.  Reality is our last 4 years not so good. While I'm not ready to give Charlie a total hall pass for this class due to his situation, he is competing against relationships that were began several years before he arrived.  Another challenge is he's not a Texas guy originally.  Sumlin and Briles cut their teeth in TX.  Years of coaching network is in place.  IMO Charlie needs to hire a good recruiter with that background to grease the skids into some of these coaches and schools. If we are sitting in a 15 or so slot after the 2016 class then i think that will definitely be a cause for concern.  Until then, I'll be patient and avoid the meltdowns that accompany every recruit A&M signs.  We will be back sooner rather than later.

 

[DMAC]

Well the defense carried this team to a 6-6 season.  Bad news is we are losing Hicks, Diggs, Edmunds, and probably Big Malcom.  If the offense isnt better next year then going 7-5 might be considered a pipedream.  

If that happens, I dont see how recruiting improves next year either.  Just sayin

 

[primal defense]

Max Olson at ESPN has posted an article on Malik's recruitment called 31 days to make a decision. It's not good if your a UT fan. He says he worried if Texas doesn't have his scheme. After reading this, it confirms to me that he's an aggie. Sorry can't post because of computer, if someone could be so kind.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/12044012/behind-scenes-last-month-malik-jefferson-recruiting

The last section:

What does he do? Does he pick the school that's 1,200 miles away? Does he pick the one with no defensive coordinator? Does he settle for his parents' preference?

Will distance, personal preference, coaches or comfort be the deciding factor for the Jeffersons?

He's waiting on an answer from Sumlin. A clue. Anything. As of Wednesday evening, he and Sumlin hadn't spoken all week. Jefferson won't get to meet his defensive coordinator in person. He won't know if he'll like the coach's style or schemes.

"I've got to do my research on who the guy is, what kind of defense he runs," Jefferson said. "Coach Sumlin needs to trust me enough to tell me, even if he can't say it on the record. He has to tell me something."

As pleased as he was to learn elite receiver Christian Kirk picked the Aggies on Wednesday, Jefferson says he's also warned five-star quarterback Kyler Murray, the Aggies' top 2015 commit, that the DC vacancy could be a dealbreaker.

Same goes for the distance factor. His mother's health is still on his mind. UCLA coaches say he can come home whenever he needs to, though he's not sure he can take their word on that. Teresa doesn't buy it. The side effects have been rough lately - she's still searching for the right medication - and Malik fears the worst. What if she gets sick and he's too far away?

He wonders, too, whether the post-visit high will wear off. Of the final three, Jefferson still knows the least about UCLA. Is it possible he's putting too much stock into one great trip?

"That's exactly what I'm scared of," he said. "It's like a gamble if I choose UCLA. Big-time gamble."

And then there's Texas, an easy choice in many ways but one he seems less enthusiastic about. His beliefs about the superiority of A&M's future haven't changed. And if Mom and Dad push, he'll push back. UT is the compromise choice, the one he really likes but might not love.

McNeal would love to know who's going to win. Groves is hoping for an early hint. The recruiters, future teammates, friends and followers, they're all anxiously awaiting. Malik would love to know, too.

"It's overwhelming now," he said. "If I don't feel it in my gut, if I'm not waking up Friday morning smiling and knowing where I'm going, it's going to be ugly. But there's no turning back."

Thats all you need to read.

Abandon all hope.

Move on.

 

[DMAC]

MJ -  "I may not like Texas A&M because they suck right now. I may not like Texas because they suck. But both have so much potential," Jefferson said. "That's what I'm looking at now. To be honest, A&M has twice as much potential."

Ouch

"Everybody forgets about me and Baylor," Jefferson said, "but to be honest, Baylor is not a defensive school."

Um and ags are? I know Texas is

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Ouch

I can't blame him.  All of his 5* friends are going there.  Why wouldn't he think that?  Nevermind that Sumlin has had a dumpster fire of a defense every year he has been a head coach - these kids are sure they can turn it around.

 

[DMAC]

Nevermind that Sumlin has had a dumpster fire of a defense every year he has been a head coach - these kids are sure they can turn it around.

I guess time will tell.  I had given up on MJ after his OV anyways.

 

[Juan]

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