Patient...for now (The state of the program by Marian Hinton)

[Marian Hinton]

:lol:

Not sure you could have made my point better. . . .

I think you're going a bit overboard here.

 

[Marian Hinton]

Perhaps you could clear up your point b/c I honestly have no clue what it is. Are you saying this program is on par with what we were in former years and that our standards are the same?

They are not. Yet. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Perhaps you could clear up your point b/c I honestly have no clue what it is. Are you saying this program is on par with what we were in former years and that our standards are the same?

They are not. Yet. 

I'll give my 2 cents worth, which is way more than what it is really worth

Our program is not on par with championship years. However, the championship years should be our standard no matter what level the program is on. So, yes, the standard should be the same.

 

[Marian Hinton]

I received an email from a poster in this thread telling me I have been very condescending. While I was trying to simply defend myself, I would like to apologize to others who feel I was in fact condescending. That was not the intent. The comment was made that "if I knew anything about the program's recent history..." to which I replied that I've had season tickets for twenty years, was not meant to incite, rather to explain. Apologies if it was taken another way.

 

[Marian Hinton]

Golfer, I agree 100% and believe we will get back there, which is why I said be patient.

 

[streettopeschel]

I received an email from a poster in this thread telling me I have been very condescending. While I was trying to simply defend myself, I would like to apologize to others who feel I was in fact condescending. That was not the intent. The comment was made that "if I knew anything about the program's recent history..." to which I replied that I've had season tickets for twenty years, was not meant to incite, rather to explain. Apologies if it was taken another way.

 fwiw, as a huge fan of condescension, i didn't take anything in this thread that way at all. i'm not even sure what the fuss is about.  

does UT do 'moral victories'? no

can there be noticeable progress and signs of promise, even in a loss? yes|

can some folks understand it may take some time and patience until we're back to the level we all want ? yes.

will some people want Charlie on an outbound train if we get housed by bu and/or ou? no doubt.

that about it?

 

[Marian Hinton]

That's all I'm saying. Yes, I used the term moral victory, understanding that many people define it differently. I agree with your assessment, however.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Yes, the fan base that once (not so long ago) made fun of other teams for taking pride in moral victories is hoping for that very thing.

I'm with Dr. Gilbert and STP - I just wanna see Texas fight for 4 quarters and astute halftime adjustments made.  Both BU and OU have better talent than UT right now, but they did last year too.  Progress will be averaging more than 3 YPC and > 6 yds per reception which is where our offense is currently - way too conservative! 

We've gotta force turnovers on D and take more shots downfield on O.  Otherwise, we're in deep bear-shit.  My 2 cents

Anybody know if Daje and Harrison are back this week?

 

[CCausey11]

I received an email from a poster in this thread telling me I have been very condescending. While I was trying to simply defend myself, I would like to apologize to others who feel I was in fact condescending. That was not the intent. The comment was made that "if I knew anything about the program's recent history..." to which I replied that I've had season tickets for twenty years, was not meant to incite, rather to explain. Apologies if it was taken another way.

Not condescending at all in my opinion.  I enjoy your articles, keep your head up and keep em coming!

 

[echeese]

I received an email from a poster in this thread telling me I have been very condescending. While I was trying to simply defend myself, I would like to apologize to others who feel I was in fact condescending. That was not the intent. The comment was made that "if I knew anything about the program's recent history..." to which I replied that I've had season tickets for twenty years, was not meant to incite, rather to explain. Apologies if it was taken another way.

I can only laugh. . . .. so instead of responding to a PRIVATE email like an adult. . . . .you run to the board and cry like a "victim"

Your comment (it was in reference to another comment) was intended as condescending.  . .that somehow because you have purchased tickets for 20 years . .you have actual insight into the game . . . .in reality all it means is you can afford to buy tickets.. . .it was in context to you including the UNT game into how the season played out. . . in reality. . .our 1st glorified scrimmage it not nor has been most of the time, in any way relevant to how the season plays out.   A point you would then turn around and agree with.    I found that funny. . . somehow I "attacked" you by pointing out something you agree with.

Here's another fun fact,  you shouldn't feel the need to "defend" yourself. . .since you weren't "attacked" . .. you wrote something I disagreed with (for example . . .the silliness of moral victories or a glorified scrimmage in any way being "relevant" to today). . . intelligent people can take 2 different opinions and not need to "attack" or "defend themselves". . . . they can discuss them intelligently.

No worries Marian. . .I will simply ignore your offerings. . .as I said, I enjoyed your comments as a poster. . . . .as a writer .. . 

 

[streettopeschel]

damn cheese. lighten up a little.

 

[Marian Hinton]

Echeese, look back through this thread and please tell me who attacked whom. I did not attack you; I defended my opinions.

I do have a right to defend myself on this board, considering you stated on the board that I am too sensitive and that you felt the need to give me "writing advice that you know I won't listen to."

Not playing the victim at all, but when you tell me things such as "if you knew anything about Texas football history" and making it seem like I am new to this writing thing PUBLICLY, then yes, I can show that I am not new to Texas football or writing publicly. 

I am done with this argument; should've never gotten mixed up in it in the first place. I apologize to admin and other posters. 

 

[Seldomseenhorn]

I thought all of the mean spirited, want to create havoc posters were just on OB!

 

[Marian Hinton]

And while you don't know this, when I posted my own articles on another site, you told me a few times you liked them by the way. That's before you found out who I was I guess. It makes no sense to like me as a poster but not as a writer. I am the same person and say the same things in the same way.

 

[Bear19]

This kind of pettiness is what happens when you can't buy beer at the game.

 

[streettopeschel]

This kind of pettiness is what happens when you can't buy beer at the game.

you're focused bear, i'll give you that.   

 

[echeese]

Echeese, look back through this thread and please tell me who attacked whom. I did not attack you; I defended my opinions.

I do have a right to defend myself on this board, 

Not playing the victim at all, but when you tell me things such as "if you knew anything about Texas football history" and making it seem like I am new to this writing thing PUBLICLY, then yes, I can show that I am not new to Texas football or writing publicly. 

I am done with this argument; should've never gotten mixed up in it in the first place. I apologize to admin and other posters. 

You were not attacked, I disagreed with your point. . . you felt the need to respond by make a condescending comment . .. which was ironic since you actually agreed with my position (the opposite of yours). . that historically the 1st game of the season means very little if anything. . . .my response to your snide remark was to ignore it and move on. . . 

A good writer or frankly teacher should respond not by "defending" or feeling the need to "defend" but rather explaining or expanding on a thought. . .that you think you have to "defend" a difference of opinion speaks volumes.

You then took a private email public. . .which is playing victim. . . . . 

 

[echeese]

And while you don't know this, when I posted my own articles on another site, you told me a few times you liked them by the way. That's before you found out who I was I guess.

It makes no sense to like me as a poster but not as a writer. I am the same person and say the same things in the same way.

Had nothing to do with who you were. . . again, why with the red herrings. . .

I pointed to specific items I disagreed with. . . .by your own admission. . .you felt the need to "defend yourself" instead of expanding the discussion. . . .

As for your offerings as a poster vs writer . .. . again, just my opinion (back to your inability to handle criticism)  . ..I feel you as  writer here, are trying to hard to "create a story". . .while you as a poster seemed to offer well (perhaps better is the right word) thought out insights.

You certainly were not as defensive on OB or TR .. . . . .that is my opinion, it is not an attack, it is an observation. . .sorry I wasn't blowing smoke up your skirt .. . . .

As I said in my private email, I'm simply going to stop reading your offerings. . . . . 

 

[Marian Hinton]

This is crazy. I didn't say I was attacked. Yes, you disagreed with me, and I simply defended my opinion. 

I didn't even talk about the first game of the season....not sure what you are talking about. 

defending and explaining....same thing. You defend a thesis. It means "to maintain support of" or "justify." You are so caught up in semantics it's crazy. 

Again, I have never had an issue with any other posters on this site or any other, so not sure what I did to draw your wrath. 

As far as the email, I didn't name names, nor did I quote you. 

Stop. This is over. 

 

[echeese]

This is crazy. I didn't say I was attacked.

Really?

Who posted this:   "Echeese, look back through this thread and please tell me who attacked whom. I did not attack you; I defended my opinions.  I do have a right to defend myself on this board,"  (clearly you think someone attacked someone else)

One "defends" when they feel they are "attacked"    First you claimed I attacked you (see the underlined comment) then you claimed you never said you were attacked. . . . .read the quoted and underlined comment above. . . . . .

Both statements cannot be true .. . .pick one. . . . . 

I disagreed with your point. . . .this week, after UCLA and after UNT. . . .

In each case you would get defensive then in a grand irony, wind up agreeing with me. . . . .

For the record, you were never attacked, I disagreed with an idea you posted. . . .as I state each time you got defensive including making snide and condescending remarks in "defense" of your remarks. . .. pretty much the definition of thin skinned. . . .

I tried to take that part of the conversation private. . . you wanted to play victim. . . .OK. . . . the private remarks were intended as constructive criticism.. .by your response. . you are not interested. . .that's fine. . . .taking them public is playing the victim card .. . .

You are not interested in discussing your writings so I won't. . . .but stop with the bullshit and spin. . . . . .