Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[TB14]

Give them all a nice bump but let’s wait and string a few 10+ win seasons before we open the vault.
Put some incentives in but not a ton of guaranteed money over multiple years.
We don’t need to go Aggy

Then you risk losing him to the NFL. And that contract I proposed is way shorter than aggy. You're silly if you don't think it is coming.

 

[TB14]

Where would he go? Is there a better job on the market? Don’t think so. He’s not going to the NFL at least not yet. While it would be my preference to wait since this is the first time he’s ever won 10+ games in his career, the reality is that schools overpay and just spend the money.

I think he could get an NFL job pretty easily tbh

 

[tejasrulz]

So based on replies, if this weekend ou was playing Oregon and aggy was playing Florida St, some of the people on here wouldn't pull for ou and/or aggy to win the game even though those victories would give Texas a chance to make the CFP. Wow

 

[TB14]

Coaches getting massive pay raises and extensions after 1 good season has been a really poor business decision more often than not recently (Jimbo, Mel Tucker, etc). Altho, when money grows on trees in the world of sports, I guess it honestly doesn't matter. The amount of money being thrown away around the country is just stupid.

Coaching contracts should absolutely be incentive based and not guaranteed. Looks like little brother learned their Jimbo lesson, as shown with the Elko contract language.

Give Sark a bump, sure, but it should 100% be performance-based.

Almost all contracts have huge incentive bases in them. Including Sark's current deal. A win Saturday earns him an extra $100k. Any deal any coach signs will have big performance bonuses.

$9 million a year is still very low for a school like Texas. It would be tied for 10th in the country before any other raises this offseason. The longer you wait, the more expensive it likely gets.

 

[TFloss32]

 

[North Texas Golfer]

A lot of possibilities still on the table for how things play out.

Including all 8 teams finishing with 1 loss. But the chances are almost zero of that happening since that would mean Iowa beating Michigan.

But, if if did happen, Texas, Alabama, and Oregon would be the only conference champions with 1 loss.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Sark definitely deserves a healthy raise as well as the staff. Continuity has a lot to do with our success. You don't give him a contract with a ridiculous buyout, but you reward him for his success and incent him to continue to progress.

 

[Earl Nobis Jefferson]

So Gundy gets Big 12 Coach of the Year?!?! Big 12 is nothing but consistent with giving the Horns locker room hate material. Good job morons

 

[Sunkist]

I think he could get an NFL job pretty easily tbh

I don’t. OC job yes. Head coaching? Not yet. But who knows. Everyone is desperate to try and maybe they think he’s the next Mike McDaniel.

There’s so much money I wouldn’t be surprised if Sark got a large extension and raise. I’m not saying it won’t happen I’m just saying I wish we could wait one more year. But if it means Sark threatens to leave (which I don’t think he would), then of course you do it.

 

[RickyFlair]

Then you risk losing him to the NFL. And that contract I proposed is way shorter than aggy. You're silly if you don't think it is coming.

If you have a great coach, and we do, you always have the potential to lose them.

Give him a competitive salary with performance incentives, make sure the assistants are compensated appropriately and give him autonomy and support for his program. Sark knows the importance of program culture and that includes the whole organization. More money doesn’t always mean you have a great job. Sometimes BIG money means BIGGER headaches. It’s called “battle pay”.

If Sark starts wanting another job he’s going to take one regardless of how many million you throw at him. If he only stays for the money I don’t want him.

 

[TXFF]

What's the success rate of college HCs becoming successful in the NFL? Without doing a full analysis, my recollection is that it's fairly low. Some coaches are just better at the college game where recruiting is a big part of it. I can see why some coaches might not like the grind of recruiting, but others seem to really enjoy that aspect of the job. Sark strikes me as one who enjoys it because he's very good at it.

 

[tejasrulz]

What's the success rate of college HCs becoming successful in the NFL? Without doing a full analysis, my recollection is that it's fairly low. Some coaches are just better at the college game where recruiting is a big part of it. I can see why some coaches might not like the grind of recruiting, but others seem to really enjoy that aspect of the job. Sark strikes me as one who enjoys it because he's very good at it.

Agree. Saban, who is the greatest college ever IMHO, didn't last long in the NFL. I hope someday Sark is considered among the greats or even the greatest, as long as it was done here at Texas.

 

[dssl]

Sark can make PLENTY of money if he stays at Texas, I don't think any reletively small difference in compensation would be a factor in him leaving or staying in college.

I don't think he would be able to bring the obvious passion and discipline if he wasn't loving it as much as he says he is. My guess is he sees Saben as his role model, and hopes to bring that type of long term success to the University of Texas, and in the process become a very rich man that most people look up to.

 

[TB14]

He's not about to get a small raise. He's about to get at minimum $2 million more a year and probably $3 million more. Thats a 50% raise. That is meaningful and shows he's valued.

 

[CorrienteKid]

What's the success rate of college HCs becoming successful in the NFL? Without doing a full analysis, my recollection is that it's fairly low. Some coaches are just better at the college game where recruiting is a big part of it. I can see why some coaches might not like the grind of recruiting, but others seem to really enjoy that aspect of the job. Sark strikes me as one who enjoys it because he's very good at it.

Jimmy Johnson did fairly well and Barry Switzer road those coat tails

 

[TFloss32]

 

[TFloss32]

 

[TXFF]

Jimmy Johnson did fairly well and Barry Switzer road those coat tails

Yes, JJ was an exception. Switzer had some success despite himself. The list of failures is much longer than the list of successes. Meyer, Rhule, Kingsbury, etc, are recent examples of the former.

 

[Coot]

Yes, JJ was an exception. Switzer had some success despite himself. The list of failures is much longer than the list of successes. Meyer, Rhule, Kingsbury, etc, are recent examples of the former.

Of course, in the long run, I'd guess the list failed head coaches at any level is longer than the list of successful ones.

 

[TXFF]

Of course, in the long run, I'd guess the list failed head coaches at any level is longer than the list of successful ones.

Sure, but we're talking about very successful college coaches trying to translate that success to the NFL; it seldom works.