Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[Eastexhorn]

Refs. proably gave the game to Washington.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Not sure how accurate it is to say Washington/Penix killed Texas last year in the bowl game.

Washington won by 7 points.
Washington outgained Texas by 25 yards total in the game. But it took them 18 more plays to do so.

Michael Penix was 32-59 for 287 yards.
Penix's completion rate was 59.3% which is okay at best.
Penix's yards per attempt was 5.3 which is pretty putrid.
Penix's yards per completion was 8.9 which isn't very good.
Penix's Passer Rating was 112.4 which is flat-out horrible.

He threw for a pair of TDs. You didn't mention that.

We scored a junk FG in the last minute or it would have been more.

They had 25 First Downs. We had 19

They occupied the clock 35:46. We only had it 24:14

Washington spotted Texas a turnover and still won.

They are better this year than they were last year. Their receiving corps is tops in the country and our secondary would have big trouble dealing with them.

 

[TFloss32]

 

[North Texas Golfer]

He threw for a pair of TDs. You didn't mention that.

We scored a junk FG in the last minute or it would have been more.

They had 25 First Downs. We had 19

They occupied the clock 35:46. We only had it 24:14

Washington spotted Texas a turnover and still won.

They are better this year than they were last year. Their receiving corps is tops in the country and our secondary would have big trouble dealing with them.

The fact remains that Michael Penix did not kill Texas in the bowl game last year. His numbers were borderline terrible.

 

[Wayne]

When Sark took this job, he was basically on probation to prove that he had put his personal issues behind him and the salary reflected that. Dude has more than proven himself and is due a substantial raise

Win 9+ next year and pay him $10mm+ but we should not extend without multiple successful seasons.

In fact, first win the big 12 championship Saturday then prove it wasn’t a fluke with a solid 2024 season. If QE3 is coming back, we should be loaded again.

So you’re ready for Sark to leave… if we do nothing, he’ll be gone.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The fact remains that Michael Penix did not kill Texas in the bowl game last year. His numbers were borderline terrible.

You're such a drama queen. 257 yards, two TDs, and winning the game isn't borderline terrible. Exaggeration only hurts the point you're trying to make.

If he was terrible, then we were living in suckage.

 

[TXFF]

You're such a drama queen. 257 yards, two TDs, and winning the game isn't borderline terrible. Exaggeration only hurts the point you're trying to make.

If he was terrible, then we were living in suckage.

Aside from the CFP, other bowl games are nothing more than exhibitions. Due to players transferring, retiring, entering the draft, etc, the remaining team does not reflect the real team during the season. Fun to watch, but the outcomes are fairly irrelevant.

 

[DMAC]

We do not have the secondary to stop their WRs…

You could be right but my money is on our defensive line not giving nix the time. Our secondary leaves much to be desired at times granted.

Still after watching some PAC12 play this year they just dont impress me. My gut tells me every team in top 8 CFP rankings will beat Oregon except for Florida State and Washington(the rematch).

Texas is till better right now than any of those 3 schools.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

You're such a drama queen. 257 yards, two TDs, and winning the game isn't borderline terrible. Exaggeration only hurts the point you're trying to make.

If he was terrible, then we were living in suckage.

Penix threw more passes in the Texas game last year than he did any other game. And only threw for less yards in one game all year. And his passer rating of 112.4 in that game isn't just borderline terrible. It is full blown terrible.

As far as us living suckage, Quinn's numbers were better than Penix's in the bowl game.

 

[BruiseLee]

He threw for a pair of TDs. You didn't mention that.

We scored a junk FG in the last minute or it would have been more.

They had 25 First Downs. We had 19

They occupied the clock 35:46. We only had it 24:14

Washington spotted Texas a turnover and still won.

They are better this year than they were last year. Their receiving corps is tops in the country and our secondary would have big trouble dealing with them.

If we had Bijan and Roschon playing that game last year, we win.

 

[Sunkist]

So you’re ready for Sark to leave… if we do nothing, he’ll be gone.

Where would he go? Is there a better job on the market? Don’t think so. He’s not going to the NFL at least not yet. While it would be my preference to wait since this is the first time he’s ever won 10+ games in his career, the reality is that schools overpay and just spend the money.

 

[oldhorn2]

Sha -vs- NTG....from what I have read in this debate I have to give NTG the edge in argument points


Now y'all carry on

 

[Wayne]

Where would he go? Is there a better job on the market? Don’t think so. He’s not going to the NFL at least not yet. While it would be my preference to wait since this is the first time he’s ever won 10+ games in his career, the reality is that schools overpay and just spend the money.

Michigan will probably be open at the end of the year. Who knows what will be open next year. I wouldn’t count out the NFL. He’s been there before and the NFL has hired some really head scratching coaches in the past few years. Fired college coaches, 30 year olds, etc.

 

[Billybass]

I’m trusting DelConte to handle the situation. But Sark had done a damn good job so far, and that means he will probably be paid in line with performance soon

 

[83Dee]

Aside from the CFP, other bowl games are nothing more than exhibitions. Due to players transferring, retiring, entering the draft, etc, the remaining team does not reflect the real team during the season. Fun to watch, but the outcomes are fairly irrelevant.

I agree with this. They're still fun to watch, because we get to see a bunch of players in burnt orange who will be on the depth chart - next year. I went to the Alamo Bowl last year and got to see Burke play most of the game, for example. But it is not a true test of your team that year.

I enjoyed beating Georgia a few years ago. But as much as I hate to admit it, it was the equivalent of winning a preseason scrimmage against them. I'd rather win than lose, but it simply wasn't a true test for both teams that year.

One final thing.... if we get shunned this year - and end up going to the Fiesta Bowl to play Tulane, which team do you believe will be happier to be there? There's a narrative that we will be angry - and ready to prove we should have been in the final four, but I can see it going the other way (see Georgia when we last played them). On top of that we will likely be playing without: Whittington, Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, Catalon (whether or not he is ready) and Watts.

 

[Eastexhorn]

If we had Bijan and Roschon playing that game last year, we win.

Was not much drop off to Brooks playing. But if Horns had scored 2 more tds. they would have won.

Or maybe if Tom had coached them in bowl game.

 

[TFloss32]

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Sha -vs- NTG....from what I have read in this debate I have to give NTG the edge in argument points


Now y'all carry on

Got to admit, being called a drama queen is a first for me.

Still not as harsh as some of the things the wife has called me

 

[Grandpa Zorro]

Sark is a really good interview. He’s saying all the right things and I think he is representing the University of Texas well.

 

[bctex1106]

Where would he go? Is there a better job on the market? Don’t think so. He’s not going to the NFL at least not yet. While it would be my preference to wait since this is the first time he’s ever won 10+ games in his career, the reality is that schools overpay and just spend the money.

Coaches getting massive pay raises and extensions after 1 good season has been a really poor business decision more often than not recently (Jimbo, Mel Tucker, etc). Altho, when money grows on trees in the world of sports, I guess it honestly doesn't matter. The amount of money being thrown away around the country is just stupid.

Coaching contracts should absolutely be incentive based and not guaranteed. Looks like little brother learned their Jimbo lesson, as shown with the Elko contract language.

Give Sark a bump, sure, but it should 100% be performance-based.