Welcome to the HornSports Forum

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our Texas Longhorns message board community.

SignUp Now!

Jeff Traylor interviewing with Missou

Gosh. No one has as interest in viewing Bedford !!! What a shock .
Vance had a few interviews last year. I think he was close to being a finalist at Colorado State if I'm not mistaken. This year, not so much.

 
Jeff is a smart guy, he knows he's not quite ready for the jump to college OC yet.
With all due respect… and not trying to flame, but do you really know that Jeff Traylor thinks he's not ready to coach a college offense… or is that what you believe?

I have not read that anywhere. I personally don't know what Jeff Traylor thinks or believes. 

But, I do know that Jeff Traylor sure seems like he's been an invaluable asset to Charlie Strong and Texas… and a real confidante.

Reading about the "toxic" environment in the Offense meetings last season… and the lack of respect he was shown when he came in by the offensive coordinator, has to not sit well with him. Especially if he does believe he has the ability to be a college OC.

Then, if he's getting in the mid 100Ks, or even mid 200Ks… and he's flying with the HC, AD… and University President to land the guys everyone perceives as being potential saviors of the program, or at the least CS's career. One's becoming OC getting $850K and the other guy's becoming OL/RunningGame Coordinator getting $550K… and you're getting at the most $250K.  I can also imagine that not sitting too well.

Maybe the only way he can get respect, if not through promotion, but at least through more $, is to test the waters… and get UT's attention.

He sure seems like a team player, but charity starts at home, IMO.

I hope he gets a very nice bump.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Here are the rankings for the defenses Bedford has coordinated the last 6 years.  Which one looks like the outlier to you?

2010: 15th

2011:  24th

2012:  26th

2013:  1st

2014:  25th

2015:  106th
What's the explanation for this? 

To be clear, I don't blame Bedford for all of it (although all the coaches deserve some of the blame). At times Bedford looked pissed and confused, as if he wasn't sure what/why that was happening. I know some think that's his RCF (Resting Coach Face), but he really looked lost out there at times. 

Of course you leave a defense on the field for the majority of most games, and it won't end well for them.

Obviously youth... we had a lot of young guys that were aggressive but out of position. 

Tougher schedule.

However even with all of that it's hard to explain the jump from this year to last because the offense wasn't that much better last year. Did they just bite the bullet with young guys to get them experience? 

Just curious if anyone had seen anything that explained what happened this year with the defense. Even as bad as we have been I was surprised the defense played so poorly. 

 
With all due respect… and not trying to flame, but do you really know that Jeff Traylor thinks he's not ready to coach a college offense… or is that what you believe?

I have not read that anywhere. I personally don't know what Jeff Traylor thinks or believes. 

But, I do know that Jeff Traylor sure seems like he's been an invaluable asset to Charlie Strong and Texas… and a real confidante.

Reading about the "toxic" environment in the Offense meetings last season… and the lack of respect he was shown when he came in by the offensive coordinator, has to not sit well with him. Especially if he does believe he has the ability to be a college OC.

Then, if he's getting in the mid 100Ks, or even mid 200Ks… and he's flying with the HC, AD… and University President to land the guys everyone perceives as being potential saviors of the program, or at the least CS's career. One's becoming OC getting $850K and the other guy's becoming OL/RunningGame Coordinator getting $550K… and you're getting at the most $250K… and you're the TE coach.  I can also imagine that not sitting too well.

Maybe the only way he can get respect, if not through promotion, but at least through more $, is to test the waters… and get UT's attention.

He sure seems like a team player, but charity starts at home, IMO.
Its my belief that Jeff isn't quite ready for the jump. Although he did a great job this past year both on the trail and with his coaching, he still has A LOT to learn, but he's apparently picking things up extremely quickly. Can he be a college OC, of course and I think he'll be a damned good one and eventually a damn good head coach. Still, he has to go through the learning process first or he could easily be overwhelmed.

I've had a few conversations with Jeff (he was once a customer of mine while he was a Gilmer). Super sharp guy. When I say I think Jeff probably knows he's not quite ready, that goes back to what I just said, he's still learning on the job.He spent several years as an assistant on the high school level before he landed the HC job at Gilmer so he's been through a similar process before, this is just a much, much bigger stage.

 
I also think that this was by far the youngest team Bedford has coordinated, we have 6 guys out of our front 7 coming back next year guys we will be GOOD

 
What's the explanation for this? 

To be clear, I don't blame Bedford for all of it (although all the coaches deserve some of the blame). At times Bedford looked pissed and confused, as if he wasn't sure what/why that was happening. I know some think that's his RCF (Resting Coach Face), but he really looked lost out there at times. 

Of course you leave a defense on the field for the majority of most games, and it won't end well for them.

Obviously youth... we had a lot of young guys that were aggressive but out of position. 

Tougher schedule.

However even with all of that it's hard to explain the jump from this year to last because the offense wasn't that much better last year. Did they just bite the bullet with young guys to get them experience? 

Just curious if anyone had seen anything that explained what happened this year with the defense. Even as bad as we have been I was surprised the defense played so poorly. 
You already know about the 37 freshmen we were forced to play on D this past season, so here's a hint as to what else may have caused the statistical crash:

Name the 2014 Texas D seniors who went to the NFL.

Now, name the 2015 Texas D seniors who will probably be in the NFL.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You already know about the 37 freshmen we were forced to play on D this past season, so here's a hint as to what else may have caused the statistical crash:

Name the 2014 Texas D guys who went to the NFL.

Now, name the 2015 Texas D guys who will probably be in the NFL.
We'll be fortunate if Malik doesn't leave his JR year.

 
With all due respect… and not trying to flame, but do you really know that Jeff Traylor thinks he's not ready to coach a college offense… or is that what you believe?

I have not read that anywhere. I personally don't know what Jeff Traylor thinks or believes. 

But, I do know that Jeff Traylor sure seems like he's been an invaluable asset to Charlie Strong and Texas… and a real confidante.

Reading about the "toxic" environment in the Offense meetings last season… and the lack of respect he was shown when he came in by the offensive coordinator, has to not sit well with him. Especially if he does believe he has the ability to be a college OC.

Then, if he's getting in the mid 100Ks, or even mid 200Ks… and he's flying with the HC, AD… and University President to land the guys everyone perceives as being potential saviors of the program, or at the least CS's career. One's becoming OC getting $850K and the other guy's becoming OL/RunningGame Coordinator getting $550K… and you're getting at the most $250K.  I can also imagine that not sitting too well.

Maybe the only way he can get respect, if not through promotion, but at least through more $, is to test the waters… and get UT's attention.

He sure seems like a team player, but charity starts at home, IMO.

I hope he gets a very nice bump.
I love your saying "I personally don't know what Jeff Traylor thinks or believes" and, without missing a beat you proceed to say "the lack of respect he was shown when he came in by the offensive coordinator, has to not sit well with him. Especially if he does believe he has the ability to be a college OC."

For someone who personally doesn't know what Traylor thinks or believes, you sure came to a conclusion about what he thinks or believes rather quickly.

Traylor has been out of high school coaching for barely 10 months. If he really thinks he is ready to take over a major D1 program, he needs to show he can deal with a "toxic" environment in offensive team meetings, which doesn't seem to be the case. Understanding team chemistry at the major college level isn't something that is demonstrated by coaching high school football. It is demonstrated by coaching at the college level for more than ten months. Team players don't say "I've almost been here a year. We had a losing season. Show me the money!"

As for measuring yourself by what others are getting paid, that's the small minded game. Judge yourself by how you are performing up to your own expectations. If you are doing well, the money will come. Again, Traylor hasn't even been coaching at the college level for even a year. Bitching about his mistreatment isn't going to endear him to many up and coming coaches, almost all of which are younger than he is. I think Barry Odom at Mizzou is 10 years younger than Traylor. Odom needs stability. You don't entice a boss looking for stability by impressing upon him your demands for money when you haven't delivered above the high school level.

Traylor has a lot to learn. From what people say, he has a lot to offer, but if he wants to start playing the money game 10 months into his college career and before he has been part of at least one winning season at the college level, he needs to be encouraged to move on. Traylor was paid a base salary of $260,000 this year and tripled, if not quadrupled his pay moving from the high school ranks to being a member of the UT staff last year. He is already getting paid in the top 25% of all assistant coaches at the D1 level. One losing season and he feels he should at least double his salary again and match the new O-Line coach at $550k were he would be in the top 5% of all D1 assistant coaches?! I don't care if that doesn't sit well with Traylor. He hasn't earned that.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Spot-on RD. But hey, if Traylor thinks Mizzou is the fast train, then jump on that baby. It took Gus Malzahn, someone I'd definitely consider with more offensive savvy than Traylor, several college seasons (Arkansas 1 year, Tulsa 2 years) before he was ready for Auburn's OC job. IF he takes this gig, the SEC is a FAR different animal than 3A Texas high school football. Bullard is not on the Mizzou schedule last I checked. I'd like to see him stay and learn from the new OC, someone who has paid his dues. But if he goes, he goes.

 
Spot-on RD. But hey, if Traylor thinks Mizzou is the fast train, then jump on that baby. It took Gus Malzahn, someone I'd definitely consider with more offensive savvy than Traylor, several college seasons (Arkansas 1 year, Tulsa 2 years) before he was ready for Auburn's OC job. IF he takes this gig, the SEC is a FAR different animal than 3A Texas high school football. Bullard is not on the Mizzou schedule last I checked. I'd like to see him stay and learn from the new OC, someone who has paid his dues. But if he goes, he goes.
No member of Charlie Strong's 2015 staff is worth a raise, let alone a doubling of their salary after the abortion we saw this past season. If any assistant coach ten months out of coaching 3A high school football wants to play prima donna and demand he be paid in the top 5% of all D1 assistant coaches "or else" then he needs to go.

The more I hear about the mentality of this coaching staff, the more I am wondering what the hell is going on with this program.

 
Back
Top Bottom