Handing out grades for the BYU game

[HornSports Staff]

Lukus Alderman grades the BYU game - REPORT CARD

 

[Duke C #11]

Nor bad grades at all. My MVP on offense for UT was Tyrone Swoopes. My MVP on defense for UT was Malcom Brown.

 

[HornSports Staff]

Nor bad grades at all. My MVP on offense for UT was Tyrone Swoopes. My MVP on defense for UT was Malcom Brown.

Tough to argue either of those choices.

 

[Marian Hinton]

I think those grades are fair. Agree with Ds on OL and special teams. 

OL, as terrible as it was in run blocking, was SOMEWHAT decent in pass protection. 

And though you never want your punter to stand out, I think Russ did great, considering all the times he had to punt. 

 

[Chitownhorn]

Over all not much to argue with. The one exception would be the D Line. I don't think you can just overlook the 3rd quarter so taking that into consideration I'd give them a C+. I might be over critical but they do play 4 quarters.

Swoops was the brightest point in the game for me. From where I was sitting - Sect 104 - there wasn't a throw he couldn't make and he played almost mistake free football.

 

[streettopeschel]

special teams was all over the map. KO return was a dumpster fire. FG 0-1 when it might have helped. Punting was money all night i thought.

 

[Bear19]

Lukus Alderman grades the BYU game - REPORT CARD

Disagree about our defensive ends not buying the fake. They did multiple times.

 

[Shannon Kelley]

I would just like to know the "how" into the grading system. How are the grades manufactured? What is the grading system? Is each player graded or is it the sum of the parts?

An example might be based on three equal parts for simplicity. 1) Alignment - are they aligned properly to the call? The only way to know that is if you have the Horns playbook and know what each play calls for. 2) Assignment - What is the design of each play? Again, it goes back to the playbook and what they are asked to do. Did each guy take care of his assignment with proper technique, footwork, start and stance, reaction time, and success of player duty. 3) Finish - Did the OL finish their blocks? Did they drive their feet, did they pancake their guy, did they sort the point of attack, etc (Just used OL as an example)

Point is, I see grade reports all the time. I just like to know the "HOW" behind it. It helps for all to have a metric from which players and groups are quantified, rather than opinions generated from fan speak, so to say. Allow me to be clear, I am not making any statement about the grades on our Horns, other than wanting to know how they are generated. Thanks

 

[Bevostuntdouble]

After sitting in DKR for every single moment of the BYU game, from super excited to embarrassingly painful, I don't necessarily agree with all the rankings.

QB- realistically graded pretty accurately for what appears to have been asked of him. His short passes were accurate and thrown well. The couple deeper passes were not accurate at all.

RB- I disagree with grading them as low because our OLine gets zero push and opens zero holes. D's can jam the box and they are screwed. It's that simple. It's a shame we have two of the best backs in the country and their ability is being stunted by the OLine.

OLine- this is absolutely the worst part of the team and I think it hurts the team as a whole... No matter how much talent we have on the O, the OLine can negate it all and currently they are. I understand some of it is youth and that some of it is that these players were recruited for another coaches system. The OLine gets ZERO push! We got none vs UNT and definitely got ZERO push vs BYU. We can not expect to see any successes this year unless the OLine progresses quick fast and in a hurry.

WR- gotta do a better job of getting open and giving Swoopes options. Love that Harris is stepping up.

D(as a whole)- tale of two halves type of deal. First half they bent but didn't break. I love what the Dline is doing and hope they can keep the fire and getting better. Second half showcased tackling that brought back terrifying flashbacks from last years BYU game. Have to add some extra tackling drills this week.

Special teams- MARCUS JOHNSON DOES RETURN PUNTS ANYMORE... Wow.

Back to back weeks with missed field goals... Kicking game needs some work.

Just my two cents... Give or take. Hook em!

 

[Lukus Alderman]

I would just like to know the "how" into the grading system. How are the grades manufactured? What is the grading system? Is each player graded or is it the sum of the parts?

An example might be based on three equal parts for simplicity. 1) Alignment - are they aligned properly to the call? The only way to know that is if you have the Horns playbook and know what each play calls for. 2) Assignment - What is the design of each play? Again, it goes back to the playbook and what they are asked to do. Did each guy take care of his assignment with proper technique, footwork, start and stance, reaction time, and success of player duty. 3) Finish - Did the OL finish their blocks? Did they drive their feet, did they pancake their guy, did they sort the point of attack, etc (Just used OL as an example)

Point is, I see grade reports all the time. I just like to know the "HOW" behind it. It helps for all to have a metric from which players and groups are quantified, rather than opinions generated from fan speak, so to say. Allow me to be clear, I am not making any statement about the grades on our Horns, other than wanting to know how they are generated. Thanks

Good question. The way that I graded was partly based upon what was expected of the position, but mainly based on their performance from my perspective. For example, Swoopes didn't have great numbers for a quarterback. That said, he limited turnovers and was accurate in the passes that he attempted. That gave him a decent grade. On the other hand, you have the OLine. We knew they would have a difficult time, but when there is absolute no push and the RBs average less than 3 yards per carry, that's not going to get you a good grade.

So, the grades that I made in this report card were opinion generated based upon my perspective. I welcome criticism from anyone on here, especially from someone such as yourself with experience in the film room, on the sidelines, and on the field of play. I also encourage others to post their own grades and thoughts and yours are absolutely welcome as well.

 

[streettopeschel]

I would just like to know the "how" into the grading system. How are the grades manufactured? What is the grading system? Is each player graded or is it the sum of the parts?

An example might be based on three equal parts for simplicity. 1) Alignment - are they aligned properly to the call? The only way to know that is if you have the Horns playbook and know what each play calls for. 2) Assignment - What is the design of each play? Again, it goes back to the playbook and what they are asked to do. Did each guy take care of his assignment with proper technique, footwork, start and stance, reaction time, and success of player duty. 3) Finish - Did the OL finish their blocks? Did they drive their feet, did they pancake their guy, did they sort the point of attack, etc (Just used OL as an example)

Point is, I see grade reports all the time. I just like to know the "HOW" behind it. It helps for all to have a metric from which players and groups are quantified, rather than opinions generated from fan speak, so to say. Allow me to be clear, I am not making any statement about the grades on our Horns, other than wanting to know how they are generated. Thanks

hey Lukus...that loud whooshing sound is Shannon's post going over your head.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

I would just like to know the "how" into the grading system. How are the grades manufactured? What is the grading system? Is each player graded or is it the sum of the parts?

An example might be based on three equal parts for simplicity. 1) Alignment - are they aligned properly to the call? The only way to know that is if you have the Horns playbook and know what each play calls for. 2) Assignment - What is the design of each play? Again, it goes back to the playbook and what they are asked to do. Did each guy take care of his assignment with proper technique, footwork, start and stance, reaction time, and success of player duty. 3) Finish - Did the OL finish their blocks? Did they drive their feet, did they pancake their guy, did they sort the point of attack, etc (Just used OL as an example)

Point is, I see grade reports all the time. I just like to know the "HOW" behind it. It helps for all to have a metric from which players and groups are quantified, rather than opinions generated from fan speak, so to say. Allow me to be clear, I am not making any statement about the grades on our Horns, other than wanting to know how they are generated. Thanks

Yea, every time I see "grades" I wonder just what criteria is being used. For example, someone on Inside Texas has done their grading on an individual basis and the lowest grade that any offensive lineman received was a C-. That was the lowest! Really?

Another thing that I always wonder about taking into account is the quality of the opponent. We saw a lot of good grades after the North Texas game that didn't seem to talk into account how bad of a team they were. If someone graded a C against both North Texas and BYU then I would have to say that they played a better game against BYU by far even though the grade was the same.

Of course, I've always said that how a player plays against a good team is the best indicator of how good of a player he really is. Just because you play good, or even really good, against the like of UNT doesn't really mean much. I want to see it against BYU, UCLA, Oklahoma, OK State, K State, and Baylor.

 

[Lukus Alderman]

hey Lukus...that loud whooshing sound is Shannon's post going over your head.

Laugh out loud. Comparing Shannon to me in regards to football knowledge is like comparing Saving Private Ryan to Starship Troopers. Meh...that probably wasn't a good analogy, but I'm just trying to say that Shannon's got the football smarts. When he talks, I listen...whether I understand him or not.

 

[Jedi Day]

I'm just here for the donuts.

 

[Shannon Kelley]

Good question. The way that I graded was partly based upon what was expected of the position, but mainly based on their performance from my perspective. For example, Swoopes didn't have great numbers for a quarterback. That said, he limited turnovers and was accurate in the passes that he attempted. That gave him a decent grade. On the other hand, you have the OLine. We knew they would have a difficult time, but when there is absolute no push and the RBs average less than 3 yards per carry, that's not going to get you a good grade.

So, the grades that I made in this report card were opinion generated based upon my perspective. I welcome criticism from anyone on here, especially from someone such as yourself with experience in the film room, on the sidelines, and on the field of play. I also encourage others to post their own grades and thoughts and yours are absolutely welcome as well.

Thank you for the reply. My opinion was that your grades were pretty dog gone fair. I just wanted to know your metric of evaluation. 

Keep up the good work!

 

[Bear19]

I know it's fun to give various units grades. And I have no problem with that.

But the only grade that matters is the team grade, and I give it an F.

 

[Shannon Kelley]

I know it's fun to give various units grades. And I have no problem with that.

But the only grade that matters is the team grade, and I give it an F.

Ha! true