El mahico

[orangeman01]

Im pretty sure Saban to Cleveland last year was a done deal as well.

 

[Lukus Alderman]

I would debate that the head football coach at Alabama would be a beloved individual in Georgia or Tennessee. Take Atlanta away from Miss, KY, Ala, Ga, Tenn and its a complete economic sewer. Add Atlanta in and its a complete economic sewer with a large city .

I live in TN (Knoxville area) and can attest that your assumption is correct...at least here. Folks here can't stand the guy (same way they can't stand Spurrier) and hope that he leaves. Anyone who coaches at another SEC team and has any success whatsoever is hated for all time in whatever region of the SEC country that they did not coach in.

 

[orangeman01]

I live in TN (Knoxville area) and can attest that your assumption is correct...at least here. Folks here can't stand the guy (same way they can't stand Spurrier) and hope that he leaves. Anyone who coaches at another SEC team and has any success whatsoever is hated for all time in whatever region of the SEC country that they did not coach in.

Chattanooga area here. There are more Alabama fans in southeast TN/northwest GA then there are UGA or U Tenn. fans. Saban had a speaking engagement at the local U Tenn. booster club and was sold out faster and had more interests than any other past college coaches.

 

[Capn Hook]

Where did El Mahico make this claim? I don't read all of the posts on OB, but going through the board rather quickly, I didn't see it there.

 

[Black Scholes]

I'm not going to say anything that's not really obvious, but no one knows the deal with Saban, Saban doesn't know. Sure he and his agent are kicking the tires and discussing general terms, but until he actually signs a contract it's meaningless. We're not going to know for a couple of months if it's yes or no. If I had to guess, I'd say more likely than not but I've seen enough of these situations to know that any of a hundred things could change the outcome. I will say the less this is a headline topic the better for our chances; too much media attention is no bueno.

Like I said, none of that should be new to anyone, but in terms of managing expectations there is no deal today. Step one is Mack stepping down without a bloodbath; that's looking a lot more likely than a week ago.

 

[orangeman01]

I'm not going to say anything that's not really obvious, but no one knows the deal with Saban, Saban doesn't know. Sure he and his agent are kicking the tires and discussing general terms, but until he actually signs a contract it's meaningless. We're not going to know for a couple of months if it's yes or no. If I had to guess, I'd say more likely than not but I've seen enough of these situations to know that any of a hundred things could change the outcome. I will say the less this is a headline topic the better for our chances; too much media attention is no bueno.
Like I said, none of that should be new to anyone, but in terms of managing expectations there is no deal today. Step one is Mack stepping down without a bloodbath; that's looking a lot more likely than a week ago.

If they were discussing terms or even speaking to him or his agent it would be known at this point based on his current contract. Highly doubt that would remain a secret. The only truth we know is that we reached out to his agent and Saban said thanks but no thanks. Everything else is just unsubstantiated claims/rumors

 

[Black Scholes]

If they were discussing terms or even speaking to him or his agent it would be known at this point based on his current contract. Highly doubt that would remain a secret. The only truth we know is that we reached out to his agent and Saban said thanks but no thanks. Everything else is just unsubstantiated claims/rumors

Not following any of that. I can tell you without reservation that Sexton never said "thanks but no thanks". That's absurd.

 

[orangeman01]

Apparently it's not.there hasn't been any talk since the spring. Try not to fall for the rumors without evidence as hard as it may be since Saban being our coach is a very nice thought.i think nick and Terry discussed it and decided to stay put in Tuscaloosa so I'm pretty sure Saban told sexton thanks for the offer but I'm good in Tuscaloosa.

 

[GetHooked]

Love el mahico and hope he comes on over. He says saban is not happening at all. Interesting since there are those who say he is. I guess different sources with different info but those are pretty opposite. Anyone with real info or is the truth in the middle meaning no one knows? Love this board!!!

I hope my Hawaiian friend is wrong.

 

[DizzG]

If they were discussing terms or even speaking to him or his agent it would be known at this point based on his current contract. Highly doubt that would remain a secret. The only truth we know is that we reached out to his agent and Saban said thanks but no thanks. Everything else is just unsubstantiated claims/rumors

if you have a subscription to Inside Texas that really isn't accurate. They are the ones that first broke the Saban story last year. For one its not been reported Saban said thanks but no thanks that I've seen. Second the reports over the past few months have been pretty detailed and even to the degree of having sourcing on the Bama side. Tons more detail than just contact last year. This thing has been pretty developed. Mcphaul has even had more info than just some casual contact. I dont know what happens and I enjoy El Mahico at Orangebloods as well, but he's the only one out there claiming Saban told Texas no over a month ago. The story has only gone deeper since then and countless other staff and insiders there and elsewhere have not heard that

 

[orangeman01]

if you have a subscription to Inside Texas that really isn't accurate. They are the ones that first broke the Saban story last year. For one its not been reported Saban said thanks but no thanks that I've seen. Second the reports over the past few months have been pretty detailed and even to the degree of having sourcing on the Bama side...including a Bama BMD with quotes. Mcphaul has even had more info than just some casual contact. I dont know what happens and I enjoy El Mahico at Orangebloods as well, but he's the only one out there claiming Saban told Texas no over a month ago. The story has only gone deeper since then and countless other staff and insiders there and elsewhere have not heard that

Funny.this day in age rumors don't last.if there was anything to the Saban to Austin rumors then it would be on every major network, Alabama boards would be blowing up for starters. The fact that none of this has taken place but sites that charge have "inside info".seems to me that they are more than likely trying to gain subscribers and revenue. This story wouldn't be relegated to pay sites if there was anything substantial with it.dont mean to be a Debbie downer but there is absolutely zero that's credible besides the fact they talked in the spring.

 

[DizzG]

Funny.this day in age rumors don't last.if there was anything to the Saban to Austin rumors then it would be on every major network, Alabama boards would be blowing up for starters. The fact that none of this has taken place but sites that charge have "inside info".seems to me that they are more than likely trying to gain subscribers and revenue. This story wouldn't be relegated to pay sites if there was anything substantial with it.dont mean to be a Debbie downer but there is absolutely zero that's credible besides the fact they talked in the spring.

I cant change your mind without posting some of the info, and not going to do that, but Check some of Mcpaul's crossfire reports. He's heard some of the same things IT has and it wasn't on a pay site. But Those guys have some great contacts. Very legit ones. Doesn't make Saban a done deal or anything but its not just made up rumor to stir up a story. They got killed last year when they wrote about Wallace Hall and Hicks meeting with Sexton, and the meeting with Mack about his retirement, but were later proven totally correct. the Saban story has actually been talked about beyond the Texas boards. Even Tim Brando (who is a SEC blowhard) mentioned on his show a week or two ago when interviewing Chip Brown that the story had substance to it. I dont buy into the done deal talk, but I do believe Texas will push very hard for it and make Saban make a decision

 

[orangeman01]

Don't they have private messages?? ;p I still think that this day in age if there was any credible info besides "insiders"(I tend to believe them more in regards to recruits than coaching changes) it would be all over espn and lhn.

 

[orangeman01]

I also think we need AU to win and Alabama not make it to the nc to have a shot

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

The best part we will all know for sure very soon.

 

[Bandit]

Considering the last 4 yrs, it cannot come soon enough.

 

[Fedog]

I have absolutely no inside information but from a logical point of view I cannot believe he is coming. I find it interesting that the insiders are backing off a little. I agree, that until he signs no one will know and thus the respect for all "sources". I love McPhaul but to hear Whisenhunt possibly say it is not happening lets us all take a deep breath. Lets just watch it play out. I want SABAN like no other but we shall know in about two months. Keep the updates coming if you have them. I live in El Paso so if you want UTEP (I went to Texas and not UTEP) info give me a call. HAHA!!!

 

[Black Scholes]

orangeman - found your posts interesting. You make some good points and there is much I agree with. I tend to think the amount of headline volume is often a contra-indicator to what's actually going on - which would validate that Saban is something of a smokescreen. But we also see some of the same info and draw different conclusions. There are some points that I can lean on - first there has been much more dialogue between Sexton and UT than a meeting last spring; after all that's Sexton's job. But as to what that really means re Saban's true intentions - no idea. Second, some of the issues Saban had with Bama - supposedly now cured - were very real. But using UT as a stalking horse to be made money good on investments would not be the worst strategy.

 

[Coal Harbour]

My personal opinion is that any decision made by Saban would center around the following and not based on future non-sports business deals:

> years that he would like to remain a head coach

Nick Saban is the only one to know the answer to this question and would be the #1 factor as to whether or not he would be willing to start over in Austin

> ego

Hell, he has one statue, why not try for another! If what drives Saban is to be remembered as the greatest college head coach of all time, a move to Austin is very plausible.

> money

This is being undersold by most as a factor. I don't care how much money the Saban's have, just like modern day athletes, money trumps loyalty 95% of the time.

 

Serving as the HC at UT ages that person dramatically with all the time responsibilities with the Longhorn Network and glad handing that goes with fundraising, etc.. Saban simply may not be up to that at this point of his career, but those who believe that he isn't strongly considering the option are fooling themselves based on monetary and geographical advantages alone and that doesn't take into account ego. This is going to get real good as January approaches.

 

[napaak]

If what Jesus and others have said about him purchasing a 4-6 million dollar house in Austin is true, kind of hard to believe it is just a vacation home...