BIG12 Games

[PTA]

"When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:

• Championships won
• Strength of schedule
• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)" -- from CollegeFootballPlayoff.com
   

Without a strong enough conference, UT' strength of schedule will suck. Then without a championship game, UT is out of luck in any tie-breakers.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Conference pride=aggy

Right now, aggy sounds a bit more sane.

No one has exhibited anything remotely similar to "conference pride" in this thread. It has been limited to reporting scores and whatnot about teams in the conference who aren't doing well. That's hardly pride. In fact, it seems a bit like relishing in your opponents demise to me.

You're out in left field again. Just relax and have a sammich while you're out there. lol

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Right now, aggy sounds a bit more sane.

No one has exhibited anything remotely similar to "conference pride" in this thread. It has been limited to reporting scores and whatnot about teams in the conference who aren't doing well. That's hardly pride. In fact, it seems a bit like relishing in your opponents demise to me.

You're out in left field again. Just relax and have a sammich while you're out there. lol

Looks it's my biggest fan again. Suck it 

 

[The Bry-Man81]

Conference pride=aggy

I don't think it's as much conference pride as it is looking out for our own best interests. The humans that sit on the playoff committee look at strength of schedule. Sure, if we beat Ok state, that looks like a great win, until someone on the committee goes, "but they can't beat anyone outside of their own conference, not even Central Michigan." That becomes an argument against Texas that we cannot control with our play on the football field.

I have no problem rooting for our conference mates (other than OU) because beating strong opponents reflects better on Texas. Once it stops benefitting Texas, then I couldn't give a damn.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I don't think it's as much conference pride as it is looking out for our own best interests. The humans that sit on the playoff committee look at strength of schedule. Sure, if we beat Ok state, that looks like a great win, until someone on the committee goes, "but they can't beat anyone outside of their own conference, not even Central Michigan." That becomes an argument against Texas that we cannot control with our play on the football field.

I have no problem rooting for our conference mates (other than OU) because beating strong opponents reflects better on Texas. Once it stops benefitting Texas, then I couldn't give a damn.

Do you realize that every fanbase in the Big 12 roots for us to lose every game? Not only do they hate our sports teams they hate our university. F them and the Big 12. I hope they all fail.

 

[The Bry-Man81]

Do you realize that every fanbase in the Big 12 roots for us to lose every game? Not only do they hate our sports teams they hate our university. F them and the Big 12. I hope they all fail.

Do you realize that a bad Big XII is bad for Texas? Period. If you were to get your wish, and somehow the entire Big XII except for Texas loses every game except for when they play each other, it looks bad on Texas. Doesn't matter if Texas is un-f##king-defeated. If all of our opponents are 2-3 wins and lose to Central Michigan, we don't even get a sniff at a playoff spot, this year or any year.

When Oklahoma was in the playoffs last year, you're damn right I was rooting against them. I wanted them to lose, because it didn't affect us. Once we get to Bowl season and everyone's wins or losses no longer affect Texas, or we go independent and they don't affect us, then I'm right with you, screw them all. But until then, like it or not, the perceived strength/weakness of our conference reflects upon Texas.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Do you realize that a bad Big XII is bad for Texas? Period. If you were to get your wish, and somehow the entire Big XII except for Texas loses every game except for when they play each other, it looks bad on Texas. Doesn't matter if Texas is un-f##king-defeated. If all of our opponents are 2-3 wins and lose to Central Michigan, we don't even get a sniff at a playoff spot, this year or any year.

When Oklahoma was in the playoffs last year, you're damn right I was rooting against them. I wanted them to lose, because it didn't affect us. Once we get to Bowl season and everyone's wins or losses no longer affect Texas, or we go independent and they don't affect us, then I'm right with you, screw them all. But until then, like it or not, the perceived strength/weakness of our conference reflects upon Texas.

Root for who you like but I will NEVER root or hope for success from any Big 12 teams who hate my Alma Mater. Again F them and the Big 12. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I don't think it's as much conference pride as it is looking out for our own best interests. The humans that sit on the playoff committee look at strength of schedule. Sure, if we beat Ok state, that looks like a great win, until someone on the committee goes, "but they can't beat anyone outside of their own conference, not even Central Michigan." That becomes an argument against Texas that we cannot control with our play on the football field.

I have no problem rooting for our conference mates (other than OU) because beating strong opponents reflects better on Texas. Once it stops benefitting Texas, then I couldn't give a damn.

The "humans" on the CFB Playoff committee picked Ohio State over one loss TCU and Baylor because they're not blueblood "helmet teams" who drive superlative TV ratings. Texas is one. I doubt we get screwed in the same manner in a comparable situation.

But, maybe that's just UT arrogance talking. I don't root for TCU, OSU, OU or whoever because I just don't give a damn if they have success. If they do, it's just that much harder on us. I'm selfish that way. F 'em

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

The "humans" on the CFB Playoff committee picked Ohio State over one loss TCU and Baylor because they're not blueblood "helmet teams" who drive superlative TV ratings. Texas is one. I doubt we get screwed in the same manner in a comparable situation.

But, maybe that's just UT arrogance talking. I don't root for TCU, OSU, OU or whoever because I just don't give a damn if they have success. If they do, it's just that much harder on us. I'm selfish that way. F 'em

Exactly.

 

[texasdalton]

Do you realize that a bad Big XII is bad for Texas? Period. If you were to get your wish, and somehow the entire Big XII except for Texas loses every game except for when they play each other, it looks bad on Texas. Doesn't matter if Texas is un-f##king-defeated. If all of our opponents are 2-3 wins and lose to Central Michigan, we don't even get a sniff at a playoff spot, this year or any year.

When Oklahoma was in the playoffs last year, you're damn right I was rooting against them. I wanted them to lose, because it didn't affect us. Once we get to Bowl season and everyone's wins or losses no longer affect Texas, or we go independent and they don't affect us, then I'm right with you, screw them all. But until then, like it or not, the perceived strength/weakness of our conference reflects upon Texas.

That logic would mean that an undefeated Houston team will be out of the playoffs, which I don't agree with. We on the other hand are a household name and a brand. The Dallas Cowboys are awful and have been for more than a decade however they get more recognition and nationally televised games then 4/5th of all other teams. (I would know I live in Florida). They are a brand and because of that they will be given opportunities that other teams won't get.
Same thing holds true for us, we are a national brand and because of that we will always get opportunities that most programs won't get. We win one game and all of ESPN and America is ready to anoint us king. Even with one loss and I can see us getting a shot at a playoff spot.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Looks it's my biggest fan again. Suck it 

Suck it? I look forward to meeting you in person, Mike. And I will meet you in person.

 

[tejasrulz]

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Suck it? I look forward to meeting you in person, Mike. And I will meet you in person.

Is that a threat? LMAO  I am very easy to find. Lots of people here know me personally. I am at every home game tailgating at the same spot for years. 

 

[Bear19]

If we go undefeated then we don't need no stinkin' tiebreakers.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Is that a threat? LMAO  I am very easy to find. Lots of people here know me personally. I am at every home game tailgating at the same spot for years. 

No, thats a promise. And I know where you'll be. I don't care who knows you personally, I'm just there to meet you.

We'll have a great time, I promise.

You probably could have got your point across without trying to involve me in your porno thoughts, but hey, you didn't and now here we are. 

BTW, lol, some of the people who know you personally here have already contacted me to pitch in for the fine. lol

 

[Rotty22]

Yes, we do care how the conference is doing because WE ARE IN THAT CONFERENCE.

It also provides insight into the AP and Coaches Polls, whom were high on some Big 12 teams who apparently aren't that good.

The conversation takes us to Texas being in great position to possibly win the conference this year and either get a big time bowl or CFP. I actually feel foolish for thinking this way, given that just a few weeks ago we were perfectly ready to see 7-5 this year.

i just don't understand how some do not pull for our conference.  if the conference loses non-conference games, the perception is that the conference is weak.  that is a logical conclusion.  if you don't care about your conference foes winning non-conference games then you don't care about how your conference is perceived; conference perception is a valid metric.

anyone who believes that we are Texas and that should get us in the playoffs, who cares that our conference foes are 0-12, then that is an elitist mindset; similar to the elitist players the Texas coaches are ridding the team of.

 

[Rotty22]

Sad that so many Texas fans have gone full aggy on this Big 12 pride BS. I hope they all lose every week. I guess most Texas fans do not realize that every team in the Big 12 roots for us to lose every game. 

because we don't agree with you then we are aggy.  yeah, that makes sense.  provide a logical explanation of why not to root for our conference in non-conference games.

 

[Rotty22]

you can call it whatever you want.  i want my conference to be perceived as the best conference in the nation.  you don't get that if you lose non-conference games.

 

[Brandon17]

I hope blowu, tech, TCU, Baylor, ok st. and WVU lose every game they ever play.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

you can call it whatever you want.  i want my conference to be perceived as the best conference in the nation.  you don't get that if you lose non-conference games.

I understand what Mike is saying when he says he hopes they all crash and burn. He claims they hate us. And they do. He's not wrong about that.

Thing is, someone sitting with a Bama cap on a Bama board could say the same thing.

Or Ohio State.

Or USC.

As a consolation to you both, how about we agree that we CARE about those teams that are on our schedule in that we hope they do well against everyone but us (except OU, whom we hope contracts a giant, team-wide case of season-long diarrhea) so that it helps our SOS.

I didn't know the thread had anything to do with cheering for the Big 12. It seemed to me just to be a thread where we're watching the teams we were told would be good turn out to be not so good.

Its a free country, I suppose it can be whatever the board wants it to be. I think the SEC! SEC! SEC! conference allegiance thing is confined mostly to the SEC. Aggy is the classic example. They know they'll NEVER get out of the middle of the SEC West. So they cheer for conference. Its the only superiority they'll ever feel. And even that is delusional.