2015 Recruiting Thread

[DBOOK23]

Herbstriet, Howard, Holtz, Michael Smith, Mike Greenburg, tony kornhieser

 

[DBOOK23]

Not one of those school listed have ever won a national championship. You made my point. Lots of UT fans have settled for a middle of the pack team. I prefer to be in the Bama, FSU, Ohio State conversation. Also here is a good article on rankings and stars. There was a reason Bama & Clemson where in the finals and why they crushed OU and MSU. THE DATA IS CLEAR.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/dont-deny-climate-change-recruiting-rankings-matter

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

Ok I understand what you're saying now, unfortunately there's too many colleges in this state for us to ever return to that level unless we get a coach who recruits nationally like an Urban Meyer or Harbaugh

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Recruiting rankings don't matter only if you don't want to win national championships. Where is K-state, TCU, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Arkansas? I know where. Not winning championships. Sorry sir your argument is 100% wrong. 

1995 Nebraska (#15 in 1993,#5 in 1995)

1996 Florida (#6 in 1993, #2 in 1995)

1997 Nebraska/Michigan (Nebraska #5 in 1995 and number #9 in 1996 Michigan: #4 in 1994, #7 in 1995, #8 in 1996, #4 in 1997)  

1998 Tennessee (#7 in 1998, #5 in 1997, #3 in 1996)

1999 Florida State (#5 in 1998, #1 in 1997, #5 in 1996)

2000 Oklahoma (#13 in 2000, and #25 in both 1997 and 1998 Rivals) *OU is the only program without a top ten class to win the title in Rivals history. But it did have 3 top 25 classes 

2001 Miami (#2 in 2001, #9 in 2000, #8 in 1999)

2002 Ohio State (#7 in 2002, #4 in 2000, #2 in 1999)

2003 LSU/USC (LSU #1 class in 2003, #4 in 2001 USC #3 in 2003, #14 in 2000, #21 in 2001)   

2004 USC (#3 class in 2003, #1 class in 2004)

2005 Texas (#1 class in 2002, #15 class in 2003 with only 18 recruits, which averaged highest star rating in country, #18 class in 2004 -- only signed 15) If Texas had signed 20 players in either of these classes, they would have ranked in the top five. The #1 class in 2002 was simply too large, with over 30 players).

2006 Florida (#2 in 2003, #10 in 2004, #2 in 2006)

2007 LSU (#1 in 2003, #1 in 2004, #7 in 2006, #4 in 2007)

2008 Florida (#2 in 2006, #1 in 2007, #3 in 2008)

2009 Alabama (#10 in 2007, #1 in 2008, #1 in 2009)

2010 Auburn (#10 in 2006, #7 in 2007, #4 in 2010) Auburn was #20 in 2008 and #19 in 2009

2011 Alabama (#1 in 2008, #1 in 2009, #5 in 2010, #1 in 2011)

2012 Alabama (#1 in 2009, #5 in 2010, #1 in 2011, #1 in 2012)

2013 Florida State (#7 in 2009, #10 in 2010, #2 in 2011, #6 in 2012, #10 in 2013)

2014 Ohio State (#11 in 2011, #4 in 2012, #2 in 2013, #3 in 2014)

2015 Bama ( #1 2012 #1 2013 #1 2014 #2 2015)

 

[Hookemfan91]

Recruiting rankings don't matter only if you don't want to win national championships. Where is K-state, TCU, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Arkansas? I know where. Not winning championships. Sorry sir your argument is 100% wrong.



1995 Nebraska (#15 in 1993,#5 in 1995)

1996 Florida (#6 in 1993, #2 in 1995)

1997 Nebraska/Michigan (Nebraska #5 in 1995 and number #9 in 1996 Michigan: #4 in 1994, #7 in 1995, #8 in 1996, #4 in 1997)

1998 Tennessee (#7 in 1998, #5 in 1997, #3 in 1996)

1999 Florida State (#5 in 1998, #1 in 1997, #5 in 1996)

2000 Oklahoma (#13 in 2000, and #25 in both 1997 and 1998 Rivals) *OU is the only program without a top ten class to win the title in Rivals history. But it did have 3 top 25 classes

2001 Miami (#2 in 2001, #9 in 2000, #8 in 1999)

2002 Ohio State (#7 in 2002, #4 in 2000, #2 in 1999)

2003 LSU/USC (LSU #1 class in 2003, #4 in 2001 USC #3 in 2003, #14 in 2000, #21 in 2001)

2004 USC (#3 class in 2003, #1 class in 2004)

2005 Texas (#1 class in 2002, #15 class in 2003 with only 18 recruits, which averaged highest star rating in country, #18 class in 2004 -- only signed 15) If Texas had signed 20 players in either of these classes, they would have ranked in the top five. The #1 class in 2002 was simply too large, with over 30 players).

2006 Florida (#2 in 2003, #10 in 2004, #2 in 2006)

2007 LSU (#1 in 2003, #1 in 2004, #7 in 2006, #4 in 2007)

2008 Florida (#2 in 2006, #1 in 2007, #3 in 2008)

2009 Alabama (#10 in 2007, #1 in 2008, #1 in 2009)

2010 Auburn (#10 in 2006, #7 in 2007, #4 in 2010) Auburn was #20 in 2008 and #19 in 2009

2011 Alabama (#1 in 2008, #1 in 2009, #5 in 2010, #1 in 2011)

2012 Alabama (#1 in 2009, #5 in 2010, #1 in 2011, #1 in 2012)

2013 Florida State (#7 in 2009, #10 in 2010, #2 in 2011, #6 in 2012, #10 in 2013)

2014 Ohio State (#11 in 2011, #4 in 2012, #2 in 2013, #3 in 2014)

2015 Bama ( #1 2012 #1 2013 #1 2014 #2 2015)

I can agree that you need a top notch recruiting class in order to compete at the highest level. You also have to take into account the development of those players. I believe if and I do mean IF Strong can at least go 10-2 and finish 11-2 with the bowl game, you will see a huge difference in recruiting. I believe if Texas can get back to that elite playing level that recruits will be at our doors instead of the other way around. We just have to give these kids a reason to come here, I'm a huge Strong supporter and I want him to succeed. But we have to get these recruits to believe in the program again.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I can agree that you need a top notch recruiting class in order to compete at the highest level. You also have to take into account the development of those players. I believe if and I do mean IF Strong can at least go 10-2 and finish 11-2 with the bowl game, you will see a huge difference in recruiting. I believe if Texas can get back to that elite playing level that recruits will be at our doors instead of the other way around. We just have to give these kids a reason to come here, I'm a huge Strong supporter and I want him to succeed. But we have to get these recruits to believe in the program again.

Very good post. 

 

[hookemhorb]

If Strong does not win in 2016 the UT program is going to lose entire decade. Like I said we are back in the 80's/90's era. 

I disagree.

I believe we have some good young players. A good coach should be able to take these players as a base, recruit around them and win. I think it's a lot different situation than what Strong was left.

 

[Juan]

..... Lots of UT fans have settled for a middle of the pack team......

Not me, and it does drive me nuts if I let it.

But we all must deal with "what is." 

We have no choice.

There is nothing we can do about or "what might have been" or  "what could have been" or "what should have been."

I had an uncle who had several pet sayings, one of which was -- "You know what they say about Shoulda?

He lives right next door to Mighta, Coulda and Oughta."

Meanwhile, back to recruiting on the recruiting thread ......

 

[DBOOK23]

Just wondering but what would you guys say is the biggest weakness of our coaching staff? In broad terms and in terms of why these guys aren't recruiting better, because on paper it looks like a pretty good staff to me so I have no clue why it isn't translating , maybe this is the year when everything comes together

 

[Juan]

Going into this weekend -- 21-days to NSD

Using Scout numbers, Baylor has highest ranked recruiting class in the Big 12 -- No 15 in the country with 20 verbals and an average star ranking of 3.30.  Followed by TCU at No 2, Texas Tech at No 3, ou at No 4 and Texas No 5 in the Big 12 (#32 overall)

Currently, Texas has an average star ranking of 3.46 which is already is No 1 in the Big 12 (ou is No 2 at 3.40)

We will finish first in the conference once this is done

 

[DBOOK23]

Interesting to note that Sterling Gilbert follows every member of the Texas coaching staff on Twitter ......... Besides Norvell and Robinson

 

[Juan]

Brandon Jones --

"My whole family is coming and honestly just the feel of being there because environment is big to me and just to have a good time and get some of the behind the scenes talk with the players and see if I could end up making an impact if I go there next year."

 

[Juan]

Charlie Strong and Sterlin Gilbert will in-home with Shane Buechele Thursday morning.

 

[Coot]

If Strong does not win in 2016 the UT program is going to lose entire decade. Like I said we are back in the 80's/90's era. 

I thought the argument was that if the right coach were hired, like Harbaugh or Herman, the program would turn around immediately.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Brandon Jones --

"My whole family is coming and honestly just the feel of being there because environment is big to me and just to have a good time and get some of the behind the scenes talk with the players and see if I could end up making an impact if I go there next year."

Which contradicts what Hamm said in an article a couple of weeks back (Hamm wrote that it was unlikely Jones mother would visit as she was pushing Brandon to A&M).

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Charlie Strong and Sterlin Gilbert will in-home with Shane Buechele Thursday morning.

Have to be honest - I understand why they are going to do this, but it seems like a bit of a waste to do an in-home with a guy who's going to move into his dorm room Sat.

 

[Juan]

Which contradicts what Hamm said .....

 

[DBOOK23]

Have to be honest - I understand why they are going to do this, but it seems like a bit of a waste to do an in-home with a guy who's going to move into his dorm room Sat.

Can't afford to have any setbacks, just gotta reassure him of his decision and lay out your plan of how you will use him

 

[Juan]

Have to be honest - I understand why they are going to do this, but it seems like a bit of a waste to do an in-home with a guy who's going to move into his dorm room Sat.

Maybe its a geography thing?

Hopefully some of our coaches are in LA

 

[Juan]

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[MBHORNSFAN]

I thought the argument was that if the right coach were hired, like Harbaugh or Herman, the program would turn around immediately.

That is the key. Getting the coaching hire right next time if Strong does not work out.