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Ok, this is the absolute worse thing the AD and administration can do.  Either shit on the pot or feed yourself a nice, new helping of Herman stew and be done with it.  Living in the in between is only going to make things worse on all fronts (recruiting, team cohesion, and other).  Make a decision.  Either stick to your guns and back Herman until the end of the year or call it.

 
   Bohls: Angry eyes of Texas are upon Tom Herman




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1. Not just a song. Texas President Jay Hartzell and athletic director Chris Del Conte blew it. Pure and simple. They didn’t get out ahead of the raging firestorm over “The Eyes of Texas” that will not go away. Those two should have done a better job squelching the furor this summer. I don’t think Texas will ever agree to get rid of the song. Hartzell has formed a committee and charged it with not deciding the song’s future, but “understanding the history. The charge does not include getting rid of it,” a UT source said. Texas had made strides in removing the names of people with racist connections or pasts from campus buildings, renaming the football field after Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams and erecting a statue for Julius Whittier, UT’s first black football letterman. And it should keep doing more to go forward in a positive way that helps UT distance itself from a negative racial perception. ... Tom Herman should not be “encouraging” his players to stay on the field as he said. He should tell them and his staff to remain on the field to thank the fans for their support and remind them singing “The Eyes” is optional. Isn’t he in charge? He painted himself into a corner when he was adamant about advocating strong stands by his players and is now paying an unfortunate price. “People are upset, and there’s a lot of anger at the players and Tom Herman,” the source said. “He fanned the flames.” ... The image of Sam Ehlinger standing alone at the Cotton Bowl singing “The Eyes” was a seminal moment and endeared him even more to thousands of fans but also sent a bad message of a divided team. “The Eyes” is a piece of Longhorns’ souls, a unity-building song that was not adopted to degrade Black people but to bring students and alumni together with a tighter bond. I see no need to throw out the song with the bath water, but the waters are swirling.







2. Who’s got next? Herman had better run the table or go 5-1 down the stretch and go to a big bowl if he wants to save his job. If the meltdown continues and Texas limps home with a 5-5 season, boosters will come up with the minimum $35 million to pay his tree-year buyout and his staff and the first year of a new staff. A prominent Longhorns power broker told me Tuesday he isn’t sure Herman is gone. “I think there is a wait-and-see attitude. The thing to watch is whether the team stays on the field after the next game. I think that is a good indicator as to whether he has lost the team or not.” ... The source does not think Texas has lost $25 million in donations and pledges because so many athletic contributions “are locked in,” but the threats to do so are real. ... The suggestions on a potential new coach start and pretty much end with Urban Meyer and 49ers coach/Horn ex Kyle Shanahan second in line. Firing Herman would send a horrible message as a university, which cries poverty at the same time the school has announced furloughs and layoffs. Then again, football is king.

https://www.statesman.com/news/20201013/bohls-angry-eyes-of-texas-are-upon-tom-herman
I hate to agree with Bohls on anything but he's right on this one. Like I said, if the players don't care why should I? I can save thousands of $$ a year by staying home or doing something else.

 
I don't think our D-line is as good as we thought they were. Too many yards allowed on the ground. The 4th down QB sneak in overtime comes to mind. One thing that I did see that was beyond our control (other than a dominant pass rush), 0u WR's came up with some timely grabs in traffic.
Much easier to catch a pass if it hits you in the hands.

 
Per OrangeBloods, Del Conte will be meeting with the players tomorrow for another discussion over The Eyes and how to handle it going forward.

Please take any political opinions to the other thread.

 
I do agree with Bohls that Del Conte should have at the very least controlled the narrative that Herman was communicating to the players about remaining on the field. I do not recall it every being mandatory that players actually sing the song but the tradition of remaining on the field predates every one of them and has been done by the greatest in UT history. It may be different at Texas but at the small school where I coach, the AD sets policy on those types of issues. If the coach is not able or willing to follow them, then they are removed. 

As for Herman's future, it appears he will remain despite all of the issues going on within the program and the seemingly collapse of recruiting coming which means my Saturdays for the foreseeable future will be feed up for more constructive items.

 
1 hour ago, TFloss32 said:


That's about as accurate a take on the state of Texas football as I've heard.  Absolutely hits the nail on the head about recruiting, or the lack of, if Herman's our coach next year.

 
As for Herman's future, it appears he will remain despite all of the issues going on within the program and the seemingly collapse of recruiting coming which means my Saturdays for the foreseeable future will be feed up for more constructive items.
Where did you get that from?

 
Per OrangeBloods, Del Conte will be meeting with the players tomorrow for another discussion over The Eyes and how to handle it going forward.

Please take any political opinions to the other thread.
FIFY....

"Per OrangeBloods, Del Conte will be meeting with the players tomorrow for a discussion regarding their new coach and how to handle it going forward."

 
From the looks of things, it appears things are going to stay status quo for the time being.  So, because I bleed burnt orange, I have no choice but to root for this group to win out.  I have 0 confidence that will happen, but I have to do it anyway.  What if the miracle does happen and they win out, go to the B12 title game and win against OU, then go to their bowl game and win that to finish 10-2 on the season?  Then what?  Where does that leave us?  Are we better next year if Sterns, Cosmi and Ossai all come back in year 2 of the new schemes, but without Ehlinger and with a somewhat weak 2021 class.  I have no choice but to root for the best possible outcome with the cards that are on the table no matter how improbable that seems. Man, what a F'ed up year this is. 

 
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As for Herman's future, it appears he will remain despite all of the issues going on within the program and the seemingly collapse of recruiting coming which means my Saturdays for the foreseeable future will be feed up for more constructive items.
I wouldn't go that far yet.

Herman isn't winning out, and my guess is he isn't getting out of Stillwater unscathed.

I wouldn't be confident in the team beating Baylor at home before that, if that game even happens.

Even if there's someone out there who likes Herman, it's becoming quite obvious the cost of keeping him far outweighs the price of getting him out.

 
Per a source, Texas has already lost approximately $25M on the expansion project due to what happened during The Eyes last Saturday and that's of today, 4 days after. If correct, that has to hurt an already strapped project.

 
Per a source, Texas has already lost approximately $25M on the expansion project due to what happened during The Eyes last Saturday and that's of today, 4 days after. If correct, that has to hurt an already strapped project.
Something like that is a great example of why you can't simply focus on Herman's buyout cost when deciding what to do with him.

 
Something like that is a great example of why you can't simply focus on Herman's buyout cost when deciding what to do with him.
Maybe keeping Herman is the reason they're keeping the money? Turn Herman loose and they loosen up the wallet per say?

 
Per OrangeBloods, Del Conte will be meeting with the players tomorrow for another discussion over The Eyes and how to handle it going forward.

Please take any political opinions to the other thread.
This has to be worked out or other schools will use this as a weapon. This happened to DKR when Texas was slow to integrate..

I would .hate to see UT sell their soul for someone like Urban Meyer and then he fails because he's hampered by recruiting.

 
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