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Urban Meyer Takes a Public Dig at Tom Herman

Daniel Seahorn

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Not really a secret that there is a feud brewing between Tom Herman and Urban Meyer. 



I have no idea why Meyer even got asked about Herman's comments, but he didn't shy away from taking a shot. 

 
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Just to show you how slow I am, I'm not really sure exactly what either Herman or Meyer meant by their comments.

 
Meyer was grandstanding..... Herman didn't blame the loss on Charlie Strong. 

What is the feud between Meyer and Herman? 

 
Meh nothing to see here. I doubt Meyer watched the presser, and he was caught off guard by the comments- which were taken out of context. 

 
I agree with Urban. I didn't expect fairy dust, just good coaching. 


Urban Meyer driven 'insane' by Herman, Muschamp blaming inherited players


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Urban Meyer knows a thing or two about respectfully replacing legends.

Twelve years ago, Ohio State's current coach started a successful run at Florida just four seasons after Steve Spurrier left the Gators. In late 2011, he became the first permanent coach following the firing of Jim Tressel.

On Saturday, Meyer will coach against Oklahoma's Lincoln Riley, who himself is three months into taking over for the suddenly retired Bob Stoops.

Meyer said it drives him "insane" when coaches blame players they inherited from a previous staff.

The coach particularly took issue with Tom Herman at Texas and Will Muschamp, formerly at Florida and now at South Carolina.

Meyer pointed to a statement made Saturday by Herman (his former offensive coordinator at Ohio State) not being able to "sprinkle fairy dust" on the Longhorns team he inherited from Charlie Strong (Meyer's former defensive coordinator at Florida) following a loss to Maryland.

Meyer also said Muschamp "blamed us for Florida," referring to a perceived lack of talent left for Muschamp when Meyer departed before the 2011 season. 

"C'mon man. I don't know where that came from," Meyer told CBS Sports. "It's like a new generation of excuse. [Herman] said, 'I can't rub pixie dust on this thing.' He got a dose of reality. Maryland just scored 51 points on you."

The full quote by Herman in Saturday's postgame: "If we all thought that we were going to come in here and in nine months sprinkle some fairy dust on this team and think that we've arrived then we're wrong."

"Players read that," Meyer continued.

Herman replaced Strong at Texas. Strong was an assistant for four Florida coaches, including Meyer from 2005-09, when he led a dominant defense that helped the program win two national championships.

It's not clear if Muschamp ever directly suggested the cupboard was bare when he took over for Meyer. However, at the time of his Florida firing in 2014, Muschamp told CBS Sports, "[We] changed the culture of the program that was labeled by the previous head coach [Meyer] as 'broken.' He said it. I didn't."

Meyer saw 14 of his recruits selected in the three drafts after his departure following the 2010 season.

"You had Jeff Driskel, Chris Rainey, Jeff Demps, that whole defense got drafted," Meyer pointed out.

Rainey was selected in the fifth round in 2012. Demps went undrafted but played briefly in the NFL. Both were tailbacks. Seven Meyer-recruited Florida defenders were drafted from 2011-13.

Driskel, a quarterback, was recruited by Meyer and signed in Muschamp's first recruiting class.






 



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"That's like, when I got here, everybody wanted me to say Jim Tressel left the cupboard bare," Meyer continued. "If I heard any assistant coach [say that], they'd be gone. You're done.

"Those are your players. I hear TV guys [say], 'Wait until they get their own players in there.' They're our players. What do you mean 'their players?' The minute you sign a contract, they're your players.

"You didn't choose me, I chose you. You're mine, absolutely. I love you, and I'm going to kick the shit out of you, and we're going to do it right …

"[Blaming players] drives me insane."

 
In Wednesday's post-practice remarks to the media Meyer reiterated those feelings. In his second year after replacing Florida's Ron Zook in 2006, Meyer won a national championship. In his first season after replacing interim coach Luke Fickell, Ohio State went 12-0 with a large swath of Tressel-recruited players.  

"I've advised my coaches when they take new positions [to] always be extremely complimentary. Never talk as if those players aren't your players," he explained. "... When I hear coaches say, 'These aren't my guys. Wait 'til we get some guys in here,' I cringe. Whose guys do you think they are?"

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/urban-meyer-driven-insane-by-herman-muschamp-blaming-inherited-players/

 
Meyer was grandstanding..... Herman didn't blame the loss on Charlie Strong. 

What is the feud between Meyer and Herman? 
Agreed on the grandstanding. There was some truth in his comments, but there was purpose with everything he said. 

As far as the feuding goes... it's recruiting based and if you recall they intersected at the satellite camp in Houston this summer. 

 
Considering his tenure at Florida and the state of the program that Muschamp inherited Urban should probably refrain from commenting on the issue...

From champs to chomped: How Urban Meyer broke Florida football

 
I get it but definitely a light cup check.

It's definitely in his best interest to make Texas look dysfunctional since it's evident that Herman is the biggest obstacle standing in his way from cherry picking the best talent int the state.

I'm sure he's salivating at getting more players like he did last year.

 
Normal response. Why fight about something that means nothing. Reporters need to ask about the game at hand. Hermans reputation is on the line, he needs to worry about winning. 

 
Glad to see people here agreeing this was a recruiting tactic. Herman took over and is promptly ending Meyer’s ability to snatch up Texas talent. How do you do get those players turned off of Texas? Insinuate the coach blames their players and you’d love them. Its pretty slimy stuff. 

 
1. Herman is right and Urban Meyer gave us Aaron Hernandez. He left Florida in a wreck. In fact, its why he left, and then lied about his health as he left.

2. Meyer is just being opportunistic, as he's trying to put down his main competition in a place he wants to have success. 

3. F Meyer.

 
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