Baylor running thread.

[J.B. TexasEx]

I find myself open to this discussion. Is there a Power Five conference program as ill to be associated with as Baylor? In all five major conferences, can anyone list the worst of the bunch for each...  FSU in the ACC?

Why should a program be allowed to remain in a conference and reap the revenue, academic associations and any social ties to that conference if they fail the smell test?

By that logic, we never should have joined a conference with OU in it.

And Tennessee should be kicked out of the SEC soon, too.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

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[Juan]

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[J.B. TexasEx]

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[doc longhorn]

That is the most ridiculous take that I've seen yet on BU.

I don't know how you can think what happened at BU is worse than what transpired at OU under Switzer's watch. You're old enough to know better.

LOL!  I take it you disagree with my opinion?

 

[TeamMayhall]

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

LOL!  I take it you disagree with my opinion?

Correct

IMO, it's an over-the-top, hyper-emotional response unfitting for a man of your intelligence and experience. I'd expect that type of response from a college kid or maybe a millennial, but not you. I'm sorry if I insulted you.

Please read the link about OU's transgressions back in the day. Maybe that article will refresh your memory.

 

[Juan]

Dood was wrong about everything - including Mond who has now decommitted

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[Juan]

another one to look back on and giggle

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[primal defense]

Mailbag: Will Art Briles ever be a head coach again?

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/mailbag-art-briles-baylor-scandal-texas-longhorns-south-carolina-ohio-state-oklahoma-060116

 

[ah-blong]

knock! knock! knock! meeting will come to order.

you all know why we are here today but i need to say it for the benefit of the recording equipment. today is june 1st, 2016 and we are the emergency enforcement arm of the board of governors of the national commitee for amateur athletics. let me emphasize the word amateur for the people recording this meeting to make sure that word can be heard . . . on the completed tape.

we are here to address the situation regarding baylor university. i assume all are familiar with that situation and we won't need a description for the record. are there questions on your minds? mr emmert?

i was just wondering what the weather is in bad petersmellung today. are they skiing yet?

actually, sir, it's the start of summer there.

ah. i thought they were winter when we were summer. my teachers told me wrong.

sir, that's the southern hemisphere, and i didn't know you attended texas a&m. i will need to remember that.

ok, then, let's see . . .

would you hand me that bill, josh? i want to touch it again.

uh, sir. you realize it isn't real. there is no million-dollar mark of currency.

i know, but it makes my balls tingle all the same.

ok . . . uh . . . we need to move along here. first thing we need to decide is whether we need to act, and then, if so, what we need to do.

what is this baylor?

err . . . that's a presumably christian university in texas.

i thought they got their balls whacked around a long time ago.

actually, you are thinking of southern methodist university, mark. that's a different christian university in texas.

ah, crap. just how many christian universities are there in that god-awful place?

oh, gee. it would take a while to come up with that number. we'll put in on the hot list.

so, anyway, we need to make some quick decisions here. floor is open for suggestions. do you have a recommendation, mr emmert? oh, sorry. i didn't notice you were eating again.

not ooff problem. mmermph. weraack. uh. uh. hmph. so what could we do here that might improve our bottom line?

uh. well. i'm not sure we are in a position to affect our bottom line pretty much regardless what we do here today.

so why did you drag me out of bed? why do we care what anybody does unless it affects our bottom line or stirs up the sheep. you know i'm kidding here. the people, i mean.

sir, that's the problem. a considerable number of people are pretty upset with baylor. they seem to have placed winning above safety for some of their most vulnerable students.

there's a problem with that?

it's a perception thing, mark. we need to come out of this looking right.

looking right? is that anything like swiping right?

 

[doc longhorn]

Correct

IMO, it's an over-the-top, hyper-emotional response unfitting for a man of your intelligence and experience. I'd expect that type of response from a college kid or maybe a millennial, but not you. I'm sorry if I insulted you.

Please read the link about OU's transgressions back in the day. Maybe that article will refresh your memory.

It could be described as "over the top".  And I don't deny it was emotional.  But I must point out your argument that OU and Tennessee were just as bad really doesn't apply and basically are strawmen.  And is exactly the defense that the Baylor apologists are putting up today.

Besides, the discussion is not about them, it is about Baylor.  I believe I am right when I say the Big 12's reputation will be, at worst, tarnished by the Baylor scandal.  At best, I cannot for the life of me understand how it will help the conferences reputation. 

Basically, Baylor has tainted the conference.

Now, on the emotional side, I am probably the last person one would want to argue rape and the consequences of it. I am singularly unsympathetic and, frankly, I don't give a crap if you dislike my emotional reaction to it and Baylor.

I cannot tell you how many children I have treated after being raped and the accompanying horror stories.  Children whose anuses, internal organs and vaginas had to be reconstructed.  Baby girls who will never experience the joy of child birth.  Innocents who have DIED!  Three months old to 12.  Goddamned animals.

So, yeah, I get emotional about monster mother f##kers who rape women, men  and children.  They are the instruments, but I equally despise the enablers and I wish UT could get as far away from them as possible.  Let the SOB's stew in their own juices.

Sorry, JB, I got so profane.  It's not you, it's me.  it's a sore spot and I am an opinionated old fool. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Its an interesting point, but one must remember we are not living in the same world today that we were living in during the '80s. Today's dumber than dirt society complete with "safe spaces" and what not – Baylor's crimes are a bigger deal today than they would have been then.

I had to go back and read the link provided about the OU scandal. It reminded me how bad things were at OU. Let's just say that both OU then and Baylor today share the same zip code of corruption.

Doc – I don't begrudge you for the language and emotions. I would hate to have seen what your eyes have seen. That must be difficult to deal with sometimes. I can't imagine the evil thats behind insane crimes like that.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Now, on the emotional side, I am probably the last person one would want to argue rape and the consequences of it. I am singularly unsympathetic and, frankly, I don't give a crap if you dislike my emotional reaction to it and Baylor.

I cannot tell you how many children I have treated after being raped and the accompanying horror stories.  Children whose anuses, internal organs and vaginas had to be reconstructed.  Baby girls who will never experience the joy of child birth.  Innocents who have DIED!  Three months old to 12.  Goddamned animals.

So, yeah, I get emotional about monster mother f##kers who rape women, men  and children.  They are the instruments, but I equally despise the enablers and I wish UT could get as far away from them as possible.  Let the SOB's stir in their own juices.

Sorry, JB, I got so profane.  It's not you, it's me.  it's a sore spot and I am an opinionated old fool. 

No problem, Doc

Once again - don't get me wrong - I'm NOT apologizing for Baylor. Just pointing out a similar problem that I perceive to be just as bad - Tennessee - that hasn't received the same media coverage and scrutiny. OU was a cesspool back in the day, too.

I haven't had your experiences with treating rape victims. It wasn't nearly as emotional for me. Ultimately, BU got what it deserved and more punishment is imminent. I just hate to see good kids punished for the actions of a small minority. Maybe I'm naive, but I think most BU players, alumni, and fans are good people.

I hated seeing it at Penn State, too.

 

[doc longhorn]

No problem, Doc

Once again - don't get me wrong - I'm NOT apologizing for Baylor. Just pointing out a similar problem that I perceive to be just as bad - Tennessee - that hasn't received the same media coverage and scrutiny. OU was a cesspool back in the day, too.

I haven't had your experiences with treating rape victims. It wasn't nearly as emotional for me. Ultimately, BU got what it deserved and more punishment is imminent. I just hate to see good kids punished for the actions of a small minority. Maybe I'm naive, but I think most BU players, alumni, and fans are good people.

I hated seeing it at Penn State, too.

Oh, the printed word is such a bad format for me.  I re-read my comment and it DOES sound as if I was accusing you of being an apologist for Baylor.  I promise you that is not what I meant.  And I don't doubt that you are far removed from the jerks in Waco.

I like you because you don't mince words.  Neither do I.  It gets me into trouble sometimes because, as my wife tells me, I need a filter on my mouth.

And, yes, I agree that Switzer was a POS and that damned football program should have been shut down.  I know a story about Switzer that will exemplify how much of a POS he really was.

 

[The Bry-Man81]

It could be described as "over the top". And I don't deny it was emotional. But I must point out your argument that OU and Tennessee were just as bad really doesn't apply and basically are strawmen. And is exactly the defense that the Baylor apologists are putting up today.

Besides, the discussion is not about them, it is about Baylor. I believe I am right when I say the Big 12's reputation will be, at worst, tarnished by the Baylor scandal. At best, I cannot for the life of me understand how it will help the conferences reputation.

Basically, Baylor has tainted the conference.

Now, on the emotional side, I am probably the last person one would want to argue rape and the consequences of it. I am singularly unsympathetic and, frankly, I don't give a crap if you dislike my emotional reaction to it and Baylor.

I cannot tell you how many children I have treated after being raped and the accompanying horror stories. Children whose anuses, internal organs and vaginas had to be reconstructed. Baby girls who will never experience the joy of child birth. Innocents who have DIED! Three months old to 12. Goddamned animals.

So, yeah, I get emotional about monster mother f##kers who rape women, men and children. They are the instruments, but I equally despise the enablers and I wish UT could get as far away from them as possible. Let the SOB's stew in their own juices.

Sorry, JB, I got so profane. It's not you, it's me. it's a sore spot and I am an opinionated old fool.

Wow doc, wanting to go into Pediatrics myself.... That's definitely a part of the job that I know will be tough going forward and I wish that, by that point, it will be much less common of a problem.

 

[Juan]

Art the Fart

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Oh, the printed word is such a bad format for me.  I re-read my comment and it DOES sound as if I was accusing you of being an apologist for Baylor.  I promise you that is not what I meant.  And I don't doubt that you are far removed from the jerks in Waco.

I like you because you don't mince words.  Neither do I.  It gets me into trouble sometimes because, as my wife tells me, I need a filter on my mouth.

And, yes, I agree that Switzer was a POS and that damned football program should have been shut down.  I know a story about Switzer that will exemplify how much of a POS he really was.

Well, come on then, spill it 

 

[dillohorn]

Art the Fart

F Briles and Bailor.

 

[TexExSpur]

Yes, Buck Faylor!