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Hey, Randolph. Did you do any investigation of aggys "gig 'em" proud little 'we'll get you" saying?

I say this because it is my understanding that a "gig" was what a military drill sergeant administered to their miscreants that wavered from protocol. For instance, a buck private would receive a "gig" if his socks were not placed correctly in his footlocker. A "gig" punishment would be in the form of, say, 10 pushups.

So, I assume, when an aggy says "gig 'em", he is actually warning that he/they will be requiring pushups by their opponents.

This is very disconcerting.

 
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Hey, Randolph. Did you do any investigation of aggys "gig 'em" proud little 'we'll get you" saying?
I say this because my understanding a "gig" was what a military drill sergeant administered to their miscreants that wavered from protocol. For instance, a buck private would receive a "gig" if his socks were not placed correctly in his footlocker. A "gig" punishment would be in the form of, say, 10 pushups.

So, I assume, when an aggy says "gig 'em", he is actually warning that he/they will be requiring pushups of their opponents.

This is very disconcerting.
My understanding was that the "Gig 'Em" came from their rivalry with TCU back in the day. TCU was declared national champion in both 1935 and 1938 (as well as featuring the 1938 Heisman recipient). Aggy won their one and only legitimate championship in 1939 (shared with USC), so the rivalry was quite strong back in the late 1930s and early 40s. Unfortunately, for tamu, every single one of their students was called away to individually fight to save our way of life, while no other American contributed in any way whatsoever to the war effort. Because tamu was called on to single-handedly save civilization, their football program declined.

This is the time frame that aggys call their "war period" and evidently lasted lasted until the U.S. left Iraq because between 1939 and 2012 the aggys never managed to have a team that could win bowl games in consecutive years.

The ags claim the story is similar, but the ags have so many stories that they worship that are just fabricated lies to make themselves appear to be more than they are, I don't know how much credibility to give the story until someone than an aggy can speak on the matter:

This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school's Board of Regents, asked "What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?" Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, "Gig 'em, Aggies!" For emphasis, he made a fist with the thumb extended. The phrase and hand signal proved popular, and it became the first hand sign of the Southwest Conference. Gig 'em is also the name of one of the school yells, which is used during football kickoffs.

While on the subject of "back in the day," there has been an ongoing thread on the Shag that discusses the various elements of aggy stupidity. One of the ags in that thread popped off about the "greatness" of their little dog and offered the claim that the "greatness" wasn't an aggy fabrication, rather he claimed it was a "greatness" recognized by the U.S. Army in awarding their dog an honorary rank, supposedly as a sign of the thanks of a gratified nation in recognition of the overwhelming sacrifice made by tamu, its students and alumni in saving humanity during WWII.

Here is what I managed to come up with in trying to verify the claim the aggy made:

I did a quick search and found out the entire "The Army gave our mascot the rank of general" story is, of course, total horsesh!t.

 

During World War II, there was a civilian organization called "Dogs for Defense, Inc." It was headquartered in New York City and it assisted with the nation's collecting pet dogs for training as dogs for military use. Starting in 1943 they had a fund raising drive called the 'War Dog Fund." This totally civilian organization conferred a completely fake rank on anyone's pet for a fee. For a donation, an individual got a tag for the dog, a thank you letter and a certificate attesting to the dog's purchased rank. For $1, the dog became a private in the Army or a yeoman in the Navy. Different ranks were given for different amounts, all the way up to $100 to make your dog either an Army General or a Navy Admiral. Not a U.S. Army General or U.S. Navy Admiral, an "army" general or "navy" admiral in the War Dog Fund.

 

Some people got together in 1943 and decided to donate $100 in the name of the aggy mascot. Through the years, the ags have made up an entire story stating the dog is not just a general, but a "5-diamond cadet general", that the honor was awarded by the U.S. Army and that it was done as an expression of the nation's appreciation for the overwhelming sacrifice the university made in sending its students to fight the war. All this is (again) typical aggy horsesh!t. The award did not come from any governmental agency, it had nothing to do with the U.S. military, it was available to anyone who wanted to donate the money, it carries no significance, the award wasn't that the dog was a "cadet general" (there was no such "cadet general" rank given out) and it wasn't in appreciation for anything other than the $100 donation. This "rank," much like the aggy corps itself, has nothing to do with the U.S. military and the U.S. military has nothing to do with it.

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Spin, spin, spin, there is no tangible evidence to say we are ignoring drug failures other than pure speculation, but there is evidence that we have suspended players for these offenses, most often in a non-mandatory basis by choice, not anything NCAA mandated. We sat practically half of our starting defense for the first two games of the season in 2013 for random tests administered individually of NCAA mandate, that doesn't show any sign of a school ignoring the problem.
No one will ever be able to convince an aggy that their school isn't the paragon of greatness and exceptionalism. We understand that. I am not trying to change your mind and convince you that Sumlin doesn't care about the players using drugs as long as it doesn't affect a player's eligibility. Aggys are famous for not listening to others who try to point out serious problems that are increasingly obvious to those not wearing maroon glasses. I'm sure an aggy also told Swicki Anderson and Louis Thompson they had no tangible evidence of any potential problems. If nothing in the past has given aggys reason to change the way they look at issues, why should anyone expect this time the ags will handle anything differently?

At the end of the day, the problem is that of the aggys. I have no doubt you will collectively ignore it until something really tragic happens and after that you will insist what happened couldn't possibly have been foreseen or avoided.

And, for the record, your "non-mandatory basis" for suspending players is also sometimes referred to as "university policy." As shown with the handling of Manziel's arrest, such suspensions are "non-mandatory" only in that the rules don't apply to players on Sumlin's team if the loss of those players might affect the outcome of a game. Which, as coincidence would have it, is the subject of this thread.

 
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My understanding was that the "Gig 'Em" came from their rivalry with TCU back in the day. TCU was declared national champion in both 1935 and 1938 (as well as featuring the 1938 Heisman recipient). Aggy won their one and only legitimate championship in 1939 (shared with USC), so the rivalry was quite strong back in the late 1930s and early 40s. Unfortunately, for tamu, every single one of their students was called away to individually fight to save our way of life, while no other American contributed in any way whatsoever to the war effort. Because tamu was called on to single-handedly save civilization, their football program declined.
This is the time frame that aggys call their "war period" and evidently lasted lasted until the U.S. left Iraq because between 1939 and 2012 the aggys never managed to have a team that could win bowl games in consecutive years.

The ags claim the story is similar, but the ags have so many stories that they worship that are just fabricated lies to make themselves appear to be more than they are, I don't know how much credibility to give the story until someone than an aggy can speak on the matter:

This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school's Board of Regents, asked "What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?" Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, "Gig 'em, Aggies!" For emphasis, he made a fist with the thumb extended. The phrase and hand signal proved popular, and it became the first hand sign of the Southwest Conference. Gig 'em is also the name of one of the school yells, which is used during football kickoffs.

While on the subject of "back in the day," there has been an ongoing thread on the Shag that discusses the various elements of aggy stupidity. One of the ags in that thread popped off about the "greatness" of their little dog and offered the claim that the "greatness" wasn't an aggy fabrication, rather he claimed it was a "greatness" recognized by the U.S. Army in awarding their dog an honorary rank, supposedly as a sign of the thanks of a gratified nation in recognition of the overwhelming sacrifice made by tamu, its students and alumni in saving humanity during WWII.

Here is what I managed to come up with in trying to verify the claim the aggy made:

I did a quick search and found out the entire "The Army gave our mascot the rank of general" story is, of course, total horsesh!t.

 

During World War II, there was a civilian organization called "Dogs for Defense, Inc." It was headquartered in New York City and it assisted with the nation's collecting pet dogs for training as dogs for military use. Starting in 1943 they had a fund raising drive called the 'War Dog Fund." This totally civilian organization conferred a completely fake rank on anyone's pet for a fee. For a donation, an individual got a tag for the dog, a thank you letter and a certificate attesting to the dog's purchased rank. For $1, the dog became a private in the Army or a yeoman in the Navy. Different ranks were given for different amounts, all the way up to $100 to make your dog either an Army General or a Navy Admiral. Not a U.S. Army General or U.S. Navy Admiral, an "army" general or "navy" admiral in the War Dog Fund.

 

Some people got together in 1943 and decided to donate $100 in the name of the aggy mascot. Through the years, the ags have made up an entire story stating the dog is not just a general, but a "5-diamond cadet general", that the honor was awarded by the U.S. Army and that it was done as an expression of the nation's appreciation for the overwhelming sacrifice the university made in sending its students to fight the war. All this is (again) typical aggy horsesh!t. The award did not come from any governmental agency, it had nothing to do with the U.S. military, it was available to anyone who wanted to donate the money, it carries no significance, the award wasn't that the dog was a "cadet general" (there was no such "cadet general" rank given out) and it wasn't in appreciation for anything other than the $100 donation. This "rank," much like the aggy corps itself, has nothing to do with the U.S. military and the U.S. military has nothing to do with it.

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Well, I can assure you, this will be the straw that broke the camel's back! When the aggys get wind of this, banning you will simply not be good enough. I will wager neither Joe or Mike will report this - fearing the messenger, himself, may disappear from the face of the earth.

You know, of course, the corps turds at the very least, will not stand for this. There will be a formal appeal to gov. goodhair to have you incarcerated for the rest of your life - on the grounds of libel that far surpasses the realm of humanity and all things that are sacred.

I, on the other hand, am amazed at your journalistic depth of investigations. My admiration knows no bounds and I nominate you as one who should be made a charter member of this sites prestigious "Preferred Member" golden ranks. An honor desired throughout the length and breadth of blogdom.

Well done, sir, and thank God I don't have to do any pushups.

 
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Well, I can assure you, this will be the straw that broke the camel's back! When the aggys get wind of this, banning you will simply not be good enough. I will wager neither Joe or Mike will report this - fearing the messenger, himself, may disappear from the face of the earth.
You know, of course, the corps turds at the very least, will not stand for this. There will be a formal appeal to gov. goodhair to have you incarcerated for the rest of your life - on the grounds of libel that far surpasses the realm of humanity and all things that are sacred.

I, on the other hand, am amazed at your journalistic depth of investigations. My admiration knows no bounds and I nominate you as one who should be made a charter member of this sites prestigious "Preferred Member" golden ranks. An honor desired throughout the length and breadth of blogdom.

Well done, sir, and thank God I don't have to do any pushups.
lol. I would never be a member of a club that would have the likes of me as a member.

I am continuously amazed at what little research it takes to show the aggy "traditions" aren't merely riddled with mistakes involving tangential attributes, but rather total fabrications that individuals had to have not only developed but then those individuals also decided to consciously and intentionally perpetuate their fabrications upon an utterly gullible group of students and alumni. How can a university whose administrators perpetuate such misleading fabrications about so many of their so called "traditions" claim to be to be an elite institution of higher learning? If they are willing to be intellectually dishonest about the history of their school, where does their intellectual dishonesty stop? Intellectual dishonesty is the antithesis of academia, yet it is the cornerstone of the public image of tamu.

 
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The funny part about this is that my lone aggie "friend just told me that Sumlin has things under control and that this is no big deal... I get no joy out of a kid getting into trouble like this... but I do enjoy the bad PR that atm is receiving from all these arrests.

 
Speaking of Aggroid peculiarities, I thought that "gig'em!" had something to do with bullfrogs ... in a farm or ranch stock tank ... late at night!  ;)

I just scanned this thread and did not read it all word for word, so forgive me if somebody before me made this same keen observation.

 
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Aggie radio now claiming police are targeting aggie players. Apparently rsj did nothing wrong.

 
Aggie radio now claiming police are targeting aggie players. Apparently rsj did nothing wrong.
During the season, the refs conspire against the ags. During the off-season, the police conspire against the ags. It's always someone else's fault, never the fault of the ags.

I bet a couple of teams are extremely happy they passed on any chance to hire Kevin Sumlin after last season. As long as the prevailing opinion is "It's not our fault, we don't have to change, they do" things are going to get a lot worse before they get any better.

I just hope Coach Strong keeps our program under control because we have an incredible opportunity to show one of the aspects of how our program is fundamentally different than that of the farmers. We can't do anything about the on-field issues right now, but Coach Strong can take care of the off-field image of the program. It is a safe bet the ags will have more arrests. Ifthe players keep out of truble during this sh!t storm over in College Sh!thole station, it will pay huge benefits for the staff and the team in the future.

 
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Where are aggieJoe and aggieMike?  Come out, come out, where ever you are?  :)

EDIT:  I forgot - they are probably not premium members.

 
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i'm right here. been inactive because i've been busy with the fun associated with buying a new house. 

this arrest sounds like overzealous cops. i'm not worried about it. i'd be moderately surprised if the charges werent dropped. 

this arrest within the context of the past few months makes me raise my eyebrow a bit. 

 
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