Some thoughts on the latest Kyler Murray rumors

[Royal 60]

 The Ags can say what they want BUT CS is not guaranteeing any HS kid a starting spot at QB. However you don't have to be real smart to realize the opportunity is there. Swoopes shouldn't even be a factor.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

 The Ags can say what they want BUT CS is not guaranteeing any HS kid a starting spot at QB. However you don't have to be real smart to realize the opportunity is there. Swoopes shouldn't even be a factor.

Yep.  I doubt CFS said to Kyler 'the starting spot is yours', but I am sure he did point out that he'd be competing for that starting spot against a TE and a kid who couldn't beat out that TE. 

I'm sure CFS told him he'd have to earn it - but that the opportunity to do so is definitely there.

 

[utisdabomb12]

The aggy guys have no idea what is happening, just like they all thought Malik was an aggy before he wasn't. They had no idea that Murray was going to be in Austin, and the only reason they found out was Murray and Lodge tweeted a photo of a Texas road jersey. They have been playing catch-up since then and I highly doubt any source truly knows what is going on. I feel that with the Texas moderators on different sites you get honest opinions good or bad, with aggy it's the exact opposite. They are all fan boys before they are reporters.

PS, Kyler suit appears to be blue from last night and not brown.

I actually think the Texags guys are already starting to hedge. Luicci said some interesting things last night. They are too hardheaded to come out and say that Murray might end up at Texas, but it's definitely something they've started to hedge on. 

 

[Topstarr]

Love all of this happening...........Hook'em

 

[drgilbert]

My aggie friend is definitely concerned with the timing of the visit this late in the process. He said if there is 0 interest from Kyler then he should have shot down the rumors when he had the chance but he didn't. There is a lot riding on Kyler for them and the fact that Kyler has not come out and dispelled the rumor is not good

 

[utisdabomb12]

Per the Shag

Billy Luicci just mentioned that 

-- Kyler is trending/leaning towards tu 

--Texas offered him the starting job 

-- if you don't think this is a real possibility then you're and ostrich with your head in the sand. 

Hope Spav/Sumlin can pull this off

 

[utisdabomb12]

I actually think Luicci is on the verge of picking Kyler to Texas. 

 

[Chris Flanagan]

Great write up Mike.

This is a win-win for Texas in my opinion, even if the Horns don't flip Murray.

1. Getting him on campus is a win. A year ago it wasn't possible, no way. Half a year ago? Nope... A week a go? Ha... But there he was just a few short days ago tweeting photos of "his" Longhorn away jersey.

2. If he flips that is great. If not that's still ok too. One of Strongs opening comments when he first was hired he wanted to build walls or close the boarders on the state. Something like that? With a 6-7 record and all the negative recruiting from other in-state schools like TAMU, Baylor and TCU (who have all had some recent success while the Horns fell on hard times) he managed to get Murray, along with Lodge and Jamabo on campus with two'ish weeks left until signing day. That's a victory right there. Shows that not only can Strong reach into Florida and grab talent he can also reach down the road and get the attention of the high profiled TXHSFB kids..... No way, not after a 6-7 season.

3. Recruiting is a stressful business. These kids are being pulled in several directions by family, friends, coaches....even fans in a stalker'ish way. It would of been a safe bet that if a kid that's committed, truly no doubt 100% committed, would want to chill and relax till signing day. He was on campus two-weeks before signing day. Again, that's a win for Strong and his staff. A. Win.

4. The attention that this one visit is getting is something I've never seen. The attention to a team that went 6-7 last season. Granted, for the most part this recruiting "season" as been good with early enrollies and Florida but, the positives attention from one kid..... A win. Brings me to my next thought.

5. Whether he comes on board or not doesn't matter does it? They won't admit it but this one visit has struck fear in every Aggy in the world. A win. I know some die-hard Longhorn fans that prefer this over actually getting him. Just think how the reaction would of been if it would of gotten out sooner.

6. There has been and will continue to be a lot of action going on behind closed doors. His visit was top secret stuff. Why? Think about that.

Again it's a win-win, IMO. If he doesn't flip it's ok. He was on campus after a 6-7 season. Just think about the types of players Strong and co will get on campus after a 13-0, 11-2 or even a 9-4 season. No matter what happens with this kids recruitment the momentum gap the other in-state schools had is closing fast.

A win.

Have to agree. The momentum created by this late surge in Longhorns recruiting helps for 2016 momentum. Aggies in the SEC is still going to be a selling point for some kids. But with the playoff and the poor showing by the SEC in the bowl season coupled with the waivering of recruits gives Texas the momentum.

However, keeping a Florida pipeline is going to be crucial. Look at Ohio State. Best QB on the roster (IMO) is from Texas. Best RB is from Missouri (STL baby). That's in a state with serious recruiting talent. Texas isn't always going to have the best recruits in the nation so keeping an eye out for national talent like Strong has been doing will ensure consistent success.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Taylor Hamm is hedging now, "Something has certainly changed since my bold post on him being solid after this weekend and we'll have complete thoughts on things later today. Texas will also have another big visitor in this weekend"

 

[streettopeschel]

as it stands today, which coach is more likely to be here 4 years from now....CS at UT or sumlin at agricultural?

lot of factors in recruiting, but i'd have to think on some level kids and parents would see that CS is building a strong foundation and the trends are up. Sumlin was Coach Swag and fell into a Heisman winner but since then appears to be a guy who can't control his program and is trending down.
 

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Taylor Hamm is hedging now, "Something has certainly changed since my bold post on him being solid after this weekend and we'll have complete thoughts on things later today. Texas will also have another big visitor in this weekend"

Ketch mentioned a 'big visitor' this weekend in his report before deleting that line.  I wonder if Mack really is visiting.  Don't know who else it could be.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Ketch mentioned a 'big visitor' this weekend in his report before deleting that line.  I wonder if Mack really is visiting.  Don't know who else it could be.

With Hamm reporting it, I think it's Mack. 

 

[doc longhorn]

 The Ags can say what they want BUT CS is not guaranteeing any HS kid a starting spot at QB. However you don't have to be real smart to realize the opportunity is there. Swoopes shouldn't even be a factor.

Of course Swoopes will be a factor.  He is the returning starting QB.  Heard will be a factor as well - as the RS freshman.

I hope the competition is intense and I hope the best player wins.

That way it is all good for the team.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Of course Swoopes will be a factor.  He is the returning starting QB.  Heard will be a factor as well - as the RS freshman.

I hope the competition is intense and I hope the best player wins.

That way it is all good for the team.

Agree, but I honestly think it'll be best if Kyler redshirted.

I believe that about most freshmen QB's, though. Maybe he's special enough to not need it. We'll see.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

aggie made a YouTube video comparing Johnny Manziel to Kyler Murray



Their running ability and quickness are similar. Kyler is definitely a play-maker (duh). I'd like to see him tuck that ball away and protect it better while scrambling downfield.

 

[NLeininger]

Has there ever been a coach in the recent past whose program peaked in Year 1, because it's becoming more and more obvious that that's what happened with aggy and Sumlin?

 

[pringlelake]

Mike Roach-- that was an OUTSTANDING wrap-up. Very logical thought process and well written.

 

[Rotty22]

Agree, but I honestly think it'll be best if Kyler redshirted.

I believe that about most freshmen QB's, though. Maybe he's special enough to not need it. We'll see.

i definitely agree on redshirting.  i read that his dad is ok with that as well.

here's to hoping that becomes an option for CS.

 

[doc longhorn]

Has there ever been a coach in the recent past whose program peaked in Year 1, because it's becoming more and more obvious that that's what happened with aggy and Sumlin?

I would love to agree with you, but I can't.  Aggy is loaded with talent with more coming in.  Their best players have been young, but they are getting older and they, literally, could compete for the West division championship, next year.

don't write them off yet.

 

[doc longhorn]

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