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Sept. Landscape Thread - Changes to make now!

Sirhornsalot

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A couple of very important topics this time around as we enter the end of summer and beginning of fall. While you’re not watching Longhorn Network or ESPN, there’s still plenty of landscape work to be done during this time.

THE LABOR DAY CHANGE

I always recommend using Labor Day as the transition date for the change in the watering schedule. Whereas before, we have been watering in the late evening to maximize the time the turf spends with the moisture, now we need to manage that relationship and little differently.

We now want to water in the mornings, not evenings. The days are growing shorter, the heat less intense. While it might get to 98, the time spent at 98 is far less than it was just three weeks ago. The nights are longer, cooler, and moisture is slower to evaporate. These conditions combine to form the perfect set up for lawn fungus, particularly in St Augustine turf.

Additionally, this is typically the time we apply the fall fertilization. If the water management described above is not addressed, and the fertilizer is applied, the set up for fungus is enhanced. The nitrogen in fertilizer helps fungus grow. So you can see how important it is to change your watering from evening to morning.

And finally, reduce your watering times. If you’re watering four times a week, reduce to two days a week. If you’re already under water restrictions such as Austin or Plano/Frisco/Mckinney, ignore this advice. At my own residence, we are under two days a week restriction. However, I have been able to get four waterings on those two days (morning and evening each day). I’m now reducing to two waterings. I will also cut but on the amount of time/water I’m using during each watering.

NOW, if you’re wondering exactly what it is that you’re supposed to be preventing here, there are several types of lawn fungus that we’re hoping to avoid.

LAWN FUNGUS

Brown Patch, pictured. Note the circular shapes

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One variety is called Brown Patch. It is easily recognized by it’s circular shape and dead or dying grass in the middle.

Dollar Spot is seen on the blades of the grass itself. You’ll see black circles on the blades and weak and lethargic turf in general.

Take-All Patch is similar to Brown Patch, but a little tougher to eradicate.

What to do? Liquid and granular fungicides work well. On the retail side, Spectracide’s Immunox is a decent product but will likely require two applications a week apart. On the commercial side, Eagle20 is a great fungicide, comes in both liquid and granular. Another product, HeadwayG, is a total kill product, meaning it kills all fungus in the turf, good or bad.

A granular fungicide works almost instantly ON THE SOIL. It will require a few days for the product to work into the roots and into the plant. This is why the liquid spray fungicides are so effective for immediate knock back. I advise going with both as you want the short term protection (liquid) and also something to stop a rebound (granular).

Again, if you’re interested in any of the products I’ve mentioned, we do sell them. Email me for more information. greenthumbtx@verizon.net

TREE TRIMMING

I’ll remind that from now until the time where deciduous trees drop their leaves is the ideal time for trimming trees. Once the leaves fall, it’s tough to distinguish the living limbs and dead limbs.

Again, if you’re doing this yourself, remember to make your cuts at the collars (see graphic). Make a "relief cut," a partial cut at the bottom of the branch, before making your primary cut. Before removing any limb of significance, back away and take a long look. See the tree as it will look AFTER the cut. Once you’ve cut it off, you can’t glue it back.

We advise not to seal the cuts as science now says that doing so interrupts the tree’s natural healing processes.

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SPRINKLER INSPECTION TIME!

Right now is a great time to conduct a sprinkler inspection of your system. The burden of the summer season is almost behind us and your system will now not be required to work as hard as it has for the past few months. Since it has been put to regular use, it is wise to stop and make sure the system is working properly and that you’re not losing water/money through waste, leaks, broken heads, busted lines and incorrect head/spray positioning.

If you’re not confident in doing this yourself, hire a pro to do it for you. It’s well worth it in the long run.

LOWER THE BLADE

Depending on where you are, now may be a good time to lower your lawn mower blade. If you’re in the Dallas-Fort Worth, Abilene or Tyler/Longview area, lower your blade a notch now. You should be mowing at about 3 inches. Those of you in Austin, Houston and San Antonio, keep yours high or where it’s at until temperatures drop and stay below 100 or 99.

Doing so is another way of helping to prevent lawn fungus from developing as more sunlight is allowed to hit the soil surface with shorter turf.

TRIM THE SHRUBS NOW!

Since we’ve been good landscapers over the past month and NOT trimmed our shrubs during the high heat, you should be able to trim them now without consequence. This is also a great time to fertilize your beds. With landscape plants, stick with a fertilizer in the 10-5-4 range or close.

Q&A

Here’s a couple of questions I received this week, thought I’d share in case one of them is a question you may have thought of, but not asked.

Question - When is the best time to build a flagstone patio or is there such a thing as a good or bad time?

Answer - We can build flagstone patios at any time of the year. It’s easier to do in the summer because of the extended days and less rain. But we build lots of flagstone patios and build them in practically every month of the year.

Question - I have St Augustine turf and was thinking of overseeding this fall with winter rye. Is there any reason why I shouldn’t?

Answer - Yes, there is. You can successfully overseed St Augustine with Winter Rye, but I would highly advise against doing it more than say once every five years. The reason is because St Augustine comes out of dormancy so much sooner than Bermuda. The St Augustine is trying to emerge at the same time the Winter Rye is in it’s healthiest state of the season. The result is weaker St Augustine turf. With Bermuda turf, the process is much easier and has less negative consequence associated with it. By the time Bermuda gets rocking, the Winter Rye is checking out.

Question - What’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever heard of someone doing to their landscape? Just curious.

Answer - I once received a call from a lady who was so mad I could hardly understand her. She’s in Highland Park in a $2 mil home. There’s a tree that bordered her property and the neighbors, but was completely on her side of the line. The neighbors just moved in two weeks prior. The neighbors cut the tree down the day before, thinking the tree was theirs and on their property. She was livid.

You have to imagine how you might feel if your new neighbors move in and then cut down one of your trees. LOL

So she hires us to get the stump grinded and locate a replacement tree. The tree she ended up accepting, and was paid for by the “oops†neighbor, tallied up to a cool $13,000 (full size) plus an additional $700 to transport and plant.

Welcome to the neighborhood!!! lol

 
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What about weed killer?? I have the white lava rocks (or whatever they are called) around both of my AC units and Round Up just doesn't seem to be working as well as they claim.

 
What about weed killer?? I have the white lava rocks (or whatever they are called) around both of my AC units and Round Up just doesn't seem to be working as well as they claim
Poor Gasoline all around the AC units, saturating the lava rocks. Then light it on fire. It will burn all the weeds for sure.

Then you'll have the honor of replacing the aforementioned tree-cutter as the dumbest landscaper in this thread.

I'll be here all week. 

 
What about weed killer?? I have the white lava rocks (or whatever they are called) around both of my AC units and Round Up just doesn't seem to be working as well as they claim.

You can get a more potent version of Round Up. The products we use for such instances (Killz-All, Ranger) are identical to RoundUp, but more potent. The beauty of RoundUp and products like it is the weed killing chemical in it breaks down into something harmless within 24 hours.

How I would do it is make a point of spraying that area daily for about three days in a row. Then again a week later. You should have a clean, clear area after that.

 
Poor Gasoline all around the AC units, saturating the lava rocks. Then light it on fire. It will burn all the weeds for sure.

Then you'll have the honor of replacing the aforementioned tree-cutter as the dumbest landscaper in this thread.

I'll be here all week. 

Actually, the gas itself without being lit is enough to kill whatever is there. Keep in mind, you still have a weed there. It's just dead now.

 
I have bermuda grass growing in flower beds.  Will the Killz-All take care of it or use something else?

 
I have bermuda grass growing in flower beds.  Will the Killz-All take care of it or use something else?
Sorry for my delay, I've been in San Antonio most of the day.

Yes, it will. It will kill most anything you spray it on, so be careful with it. Do not spray over the root balls of your desired bed plants. As long as you follow that, you should be fine. Again, the product breaks down within 24 hours to a harmless state. Just make sure you don't have rain or turn your sprinklers on within that 24 hours.

 
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Heads up folks!

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First Frost? Fall Cold Front In Store for Much of U.S. Next Week
The first taste of chilly, fall temperatures is on the way next week as a strong cold front pushes south from Canada. A big cooldown is coming for much of the country east of the Rockies by late next week.


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Below-average temperatures are expected behind the cold front

Cooler temperatures are expected behind the cold front and will first be felt in the Northern Plains by Wednesday. High temperatures may be as much as 25 degrees below average in some spots.

High temperatures may struggle to get out of the 40s and 50s in the Northern and Central Plains, as well as in the Midwest by late week.

Minneapolis may see the thermometer reach only the upper 50s. The average high temperature for this time of year there is in the mid 70s.

(FORECAST: Bismarck | Kansas City Chicago)

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Departure From Average Highs
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The below-average temperatures will advance south and east as the week progresses.

Highs may climb only into the 70s for parts of the Tennessee and Lower Mississippi valleys heading into next weekend, bringing a welcome break from the heat and humidity.

Memphis will go from highs in the 90s at the end of this week to highs in the 70s by late next week.

There will even be some relief in the southern Plains where high temperatures will go from the upper 90s to the mid 80s.

(FORECAST: Little Rock | Nashville | Dallas)

It is possible that by late next week many locations could see their first frost of the season. If low temperatures drop to 32 degrees or below, frost would be about two to three weeks early in Billings, Montana (average date is Oct. 3), Bismarck, North Dakota (average date is Sept. 21) and Rapid City, South Dakota (average date is Sept. 9).

(MAP: Average First Freeze)

The chilly temperatures are expected to last for a few days, so get the jackets and fall gear ready!

 
I will keep posting weather/climate info as part of this thread whenever I think it's interesting. In my profession, I depend on the weather every single day, so I'm usually on top of what's going on. Sure wish we had Tecohorn here though.

http://empirenews.net/meteorologists-predict-record-shattering-snowfalls-coming-soon-bread-milk-prices-expected-to-soar/

Meteorologists Predict Record-Shattering Snowfall Coming Soon

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Chances are you will hear a lot about El Niño in the next month or two. Meteorologists and weather science experts at the National Weather Service (NWS) say that there is a 99% chance that the we will start to see a massive cold-front sooner in the year than has ever happened, which will produce not just record-breaking snowfall, but according to Dr. Boris Scvediok, a doctor of global weather sciences, record shattering snow storms across the board, affecting the entire United States.

“For the sake of comparison to the past winter, lets say that your area received a total of twenty inches of accumulative snow for the season. Because this year the snowfall is predicted to start by the end of September or the beginning of October, you can expect to multiply that number by up to five, ten, maybe even twenty times in some areas. In the worst zones, you could see 50 times the amount of snow you’ve had in the past. This is the type of winter the American public needs to prepare for. Several meteorologists are saying not to buy into what the models are showing. I can tell you from forty years of scientific weather research, they are doing you a disservice,†Dr. Scvediok told the Associated Press on Friday. “The Northeast, Ohio Valley, and Midwestern states will definitely get hit the hardest.â€

Edward F. Blankenbaker, Senior Administrator of Meteorologists, also told the media that this will be a once-in-a-lifetime kind of snowy winter.

“Pretty much everyone will see snow like they never have in their lives. Most younger people don’t even know what an actual blizzard looks like, but by the end of March, they will be seasoned survivalists,†Blankenbaker said. “Everyone needs to make sure they have their weather emergency kits prepared and ready to go. There will undoubtably be mass power outages, which along with freezing temperatures and enough snowfall to immobilize entire cities, will most likely, and unfortunately, be a very dangerous recipe. Safety always comes first and the time to prepare is right now.â€

 
Along with the mention of severe winter weather, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) predicts supply and demand could cause shortages, causing the prices of bread and milk to increase substantially. FDA spokesperson Rebecca Miller suggests alternatives in preparation of the coming months.

“We are encouraging that you go out and purchase bulk amounts of dry, powdered milk which can be stored in your cupboards. This will prevent frantic trips to grocery stores and super markets as the onslaught of storms begin to fall upon your respected region.†Miller said. “As far as bread, we suggest you buy as much as you can efficiently store in your freezer. Bread can be frozen and thawed without compromising the integrity of its quality. Preparations such as these are crucial and the fact that technology has brought us to a time and place in which such events can be predicted is quite remarkable. So stock up on your powdered milk and fill your freezer with loaves of bread, because once the blankets of snow begin to fall, brave souls will confront the elements to raid stores of these products like some sort of scavenger hunt. Don’t be a part of the Snowpocolypse, it’s a dangerous battlefield of crazed-shopping, winter-bitten weather zombies.â€

Stock up! Prices could more than triple in some locations
Public safety organizations also encourage the masses to prepare themselves by obtaining proper necessities. James Satterfield from the National Fire and Safety Advisory Board says preparation can save lives. “Don’t wait until temperatures plummet into a freeze; obtain cold weather clothing and footwear, including wool thermal socks. It is also crucial to have plenty of batteries, candles, weather radios, you name it. Get prepared, it’s coming.†Satterfield stated. “First and foremost, make sure you have an effective plan in place to make sure you have plenty of bread and milk.â€

Dr. Scvediok says to be prepared for a storm that could come as early as the end of September, and plan for the entire winter season, which this year, he says, will more than likely spread into next June.

 
 
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It's with great pride that I announce Green Thumb is now serving the Longview area with chemical lawn maintenance services and also landscape/hardscape design and installation services. This is new for Green Thumb but after recently adding a grouping of customers from Longview we decided to go ahead commit to pursing business there.

If you're in Longview or maybe between Longview and Dallas, we'd love to talk to you about bringing you on board!

Email us at greenthumbtx@verizon.net

Green Thumb is now serving the DFW, Austin, North San Antonio and Longview areas with those services.

 
Heads Up! I've got three 7 gallon Pampas grass and one 5 gallon Pampas grass to give away. If you want them, just email me at greenthumbtx@verizon.net

 
Hey Mark, question on killing ants in my yard. The ants in my yard seem to be developing immunity to the products I have used over the years. I use Spectracide fire ant killer (white powder) and Amdro house perimeter bait at the same time. The powder used to take out the mound overnight, I think they now enjoy the powder and grow stronger with it! I started treating mounds with both products to cover the bases, but to no avail. I also treated the entire lawn in the summer with the spreader. Should I treat the entire lawn again, and with what product? Will pouring gasoline on the mound damage the surrounding grass? What do you think?

 
Hey Mark, question on killing ants in my yard. The ants in my yard seem to be developing immunity to the products I have used over the years. I use Spectracide fire ant killer (white powder) and Amdro house perimeter bait at the same time. The powder used to take out the mound overnight, I think they now enjoy the powder and grow stronger with it! I started treating mounds with both products to cover the bases, but to no avail. I also treated the entire lawn in the summer with the spreader. Should I treat the entire lawn again, and with what product? Will pouring gasoline on the mound damage the surrounding grass? What do you think?

Some insects, like ants, can develop immunities to products if you use them over and over and never get a complete kill.

So it might be time to step up to a stronger product from the commercial side. Email me at greenthumbtx@verizon.net and I'll send you over a list of products and pricing. If you're not near me, I can ship to you.

Are we talking fire ants? Or are there other ants you're seeing?

 
Some insects, like ants, can develop immunities to products if you use them over and over and never get a complete kill.

So it might be time to step up to a stronger product from the commercial side. Email me at greenthumbtx@verizon.net and I'll send you over a list of products and pricing. If you're not near me, I can ship to you.

Are we talking fire ants? Or are there other ants you're seeing?
They can sure sting like fire ants, but could be another variety. Do have some medium size ants at times, not sure what kind they are (acrobat?). Have seen a few different kinds, but the immune type ants seem to be of the fireant variety. This brings up another topic: I have previously had carpenter ants in some live oaks in my backyard. I read that they will not destroy the tree, but simply live in the "dead spaces". Is this accurate? I treated around these trees and do not see much carpenter activity, but I'm sure they are still around. I found a large colony in a tree when I was trimming dead limbs by a trunk with a chainsaw, they came pouring out. I was filling open spots on my trees with cement to prevent water from accumulating in the open spots of these trees. I will email later regarding the products you mentioned. Thx for the quick reply.

 
They can sure sting like fire ants, but could be another variety. Do have some medium size ants at times, not sure what kind they are (acrobat?). Have seen a few different kinds, but the immune type ants seem to be of the fireant variety. This brings up another topic: I have previously had carpenter ants in some live oaks in my backyard. I read that they will not destroy the tree, but simply live in the "dead spaces". Is this accurate? I treated around these trees and do not see much carpenter activity, but I'm sure they are still around. I found a large colony in a tree when I was trimming dead limbs by a trunk with a chainsaw, they came pouring out. I was filling open spots on my trees with cement to prevent water from accumulating in the open spots of these trees. I will email later regarding the products you mentioned. Thx for the quick reply.

Ok, I'll send that over to you this evening.

The carpenter ant story you read is false. Carpenter ants are just as damaging as termites. Termites are just faster at causing the damage.

We've removed many Oaks that were dead because of ant infestation, completely hollowed out the interior of the trunk. In fact, there's a picture on my website where I created a planter out of a trunk portion.

The cement method is spot on. Thats how we address the same issue. It may have to be redone from time to time because while the tree continues to slowly grow and change, the cement does not.

What type of mulch do you use? If you have an ant problem in your area or on your property, you might consider going with cedar mulch to deter the ants and other insects.

 
Those aren't brown patches, they are fairy circles.  I know this for a fact because my old granny told me.

On another subject - my satellite barn, on my ranch, has been infested with field rats.  A couple of stray cats have taken up residence, but the quantity of rats has overwhelmed them.  I need to kill the rats, but not the cats.  And I don't want to cripple the cats with snap traps.

Is this part of your line of work?

By-the-way, the other reason I want to get rid of the rats is because the love of my life won't go near the barn and I need her to throw hay, drive the tractor, get the paint so she can paint the main barn and other chores that she is falling behind on. 

 
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Ok, I'll send that over to you this evening.

The carpenter ant story you read is false. Carpenter ants are just as damaging as termites. Termites are just faster at causing the damage.

We've removed many Oaks that were dead because of ant infestation, completely hollowed out the interior of the trunk. In fact, there's a picture on my website where I created a planter out of a trunk portion.

The cement method is spot on. Thats how we address the same issue. It may have to be redone from time to time because while the tree continues to slowly grow and change, the cement does not.

What type of mulch do you use? If you have an ant problem in your area or on your property, you might consider going with cedar mulch to deter the ants and other insects.
Carpenter ants: treat the periphery as I have (seems to have been effective thus far), consult arborist (sounds really pricey!), scream at them?
 
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Those aren't brown patches, they are fairy circles.  I know this for a fact because my old granny told me.

On another subject - my satellite barn, on my ranch, has been infested with field rats.  A couple of stray cats have taken up residence, but the quantity of rats has overwhelmed them.  I need to kill the rats, but not the cats.  And I don't want to cripple the cats with snap traps.

Is this part of your line of work?

By-the-way, the other reason I want to get rid of the rats is because the love of my life won't go near the barn and I need her to throw hay, drive the tractor, get the paint so she can paint the main barn and other chores that she is falling behind on. 

Ha ha. Go ahead and tell your friends you have fairy circles in your yard. he he

Your rat dilemma is interesting. The cats are prohibitive to ordinary remedies such as poison or traps. You don't want the cats ingesting the poison or like you say, getting crippled in a trap. Is there a way to vacate the cats for a week or two?

Poison is the way I would go and has been successful for me in the past. The only problem with that is you have no idea where the little bastards will decide to die. That could be in a wall of your barn or house if it's nearby. The stink from their death lets you know you strategy is working. ha ha

Either find a way to get the cats away for a couple weeks or 1) have an old fashioned rat killin', or 2) get more cats.

I do sell and install the poison but what is available on the retail side is pretty effective if done correctly. Just let me know if you need help with it.

 
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