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Not as funny as actually erecting a statue to a bench-warmer based on a contrived fairy tale.
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The guy who was going around claiming he was Pinky Wilson's grandson and who was peddling his contrived story of how the aggy war song was written seems to have backed off his fairy tale, so i saw no need to further humiliate him by going into further detail about how his story couldn't be accurate. At some point, even I wince at how humiliating all this has to be for the aggy faithful, as they come to realize how many of their "traditions" are actually just lies and fairy tales.
The guy last year was claiming the song was written in a trench during the Meuse-Argonne offensive in November 1918.
For the record, former aggy professor and acclaimed aggy historian Henry Dethloff gave us this explanation:
The allies did not enter Germany until well after the armistice and, if he was standing guard duty on the Rhine, it would have been no earlier than 1919 (we won't even get into the discussion of what would happen today if a Marine on guard duty in occupied territory committed gross dereliction of duty by slacking off to write school songs. Yet another reason serving in the military with an aggy is a danger in and of itself). Another aggy lie/fairy tale exposed and shredded to pieces.
I have to say, aggy is probably the most dishonest fanbase anywhere in organized sports. Every time we look into any of their "traditions" we find they are lie, upon lie, upon lie.
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Easy princess, you need to unclench if you don't want your tampon to shoot out.
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By the way, aggy, you know your "Howdy Club" and your "tradition" of saying "howdy" on campus? TCU says "you're welcome."
http://library.tcu.edu/spcoll/collections/tcu_history/Howdy_Week_1963.pdf
http://library.tcu.edu/spcoll/collections/tcu_history/Howdy_Week_1963.pdf
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But, did they trademark "Hullabaloo" first?
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"Hullabaloo, Caneck, Caneck" was used by Johns Hopkins University at least as early as 1889. We aren't sure when it originated, but aggy stole that, also. And, in spite of the facts being easily accessible, I am sure they have some fabricated story about how some aggy in a trench somewhere thought it up all by himself.
The real humor will be when one of the aggy idiots starts claiming words like "Howdy" or "Hullabaloo" were in the public domain when aggy started using them, so aggy couldn't have "stolen" them. That list of words, originated by others and in then public domain when aggy started using them, of course includes "Twelfth Man," but aggy will never admit to that. Admitting that truth would require a level of honesty unheard of in the aggy culture.
Other than their fake turditions, the only things aggy actually originated and fabricated on their own are the stories behind their great "military history" and two national championships in football. By the way, in the 1919 and 1927 seasons, when aggy insists they were hailed nationwide for winning the national championship, they didn't win more than four conference games either season. No bowl game, four conference wins, aggy national championship.
https://books.google.com/books?id=qwETAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=%22hullabaloo+caneck+caneck%22+%22johns+hopkins%22&source=bl&ots=bPIknm8mRp&sig=CCgW8KDWuqUj0h2yp2q-Y1A6Zio&hl=en&sa=X&ei=m7J5T6HtG-bs0gGhwuGSDQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Here is an article, published this week, that adds to the fact that the SEC seems to be in panic mode regarding the under performance of SECN and why the conference is delaying the release of conference distributions/SECN numbers until late this fall. Cord cutting is hammering ESPN far worse than projected. It will be a surprise if SECN even manages to match last year's $6 million/school number.
It is interesting to note that even considering the drop in subscribers, LHN still continues to be improving financially with the network expected to break even this year, generating revenue well in excess of its $43.5 contractual minimum expenditures.
It is interesting to note that even considering the drop in subscribers, LHN still continues to be improving financially with the network expected to break even this year, generating revenue well in excess of its $43.5 contractual minimum expenditures.
this is very interesting. thank you for the link and for the observations here and your earlier post on the sec bias thread. i think you are seeing exactly what's happening.
so what's happening? espn has ridden a long, long pony ride that's coming to an end. the end of espn or maybe the end of sports programming? doubt that very seriously. what is coming to an end is the hugely, massively, heap big bloat that has kept them soaring since soon after its inception. bloat? yes. the numbers have always been ridiculously inflated due to the cable companies' packaging the expensive channel(s) into basic service. millions on millions of people have paid handsomely over the years for espn services they never watched. that, my friends, is what's coming to an end. at least the huge overbloat is ending. espn should never have gotten so big and so powerful and we are watching market correction.
what's fascinating here is the secn situation vis-a-vis the lhn. you have to think market correction here, too. i'm guessing the market for lhn has always been better than the numbers and that the continued improvement in the face of espn woes elsewhere is reflecting that.
the huge surprise is the secn fizzle. espn, in the main, downsizing is perfectly understandable and so is the continued good fortune of the lhn. i would never have predicted the numbers you are showing for secn. what on earth is the explanation for that?
so what's happening? espn has ridden a long, long pony ride that's coming to an end. the end of espn or maybe the end of sports programming? doubt that very seriously. what is coming to an end is the hugely, massively, heap big bloat that has kept them soaring since soon after its inception. bloat? yes. the numbers have always been ridiculously inflated due to the cable companies' packaging the expensive channel(s) into basic service. millions on millions of people have paid handsomely over the years for espn services they never watched. that, my friends, is what's coming to an end. at least the huge overbloat is ending. espn should never have gotten so big and so powerful and we are watching market correction.
what's fascinating here is the secn situation vis-a-vis the lhn. you have to think market correction here, too. i'm guessing the market for lhn has always been better than the numbers and that the continued improvement in the face of espn woes elsewhere is reflecting that.
the huge surprise is the secn fizzle. espn, in the main, downsizing is perfectly understandable and so is the continued good fortune of the lhn. i would never have predicted the numbers you are showing for secn. what on earth is the explanation for that?
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Mike Slive extrapolated the expansion of the sports broadcasting bubble in making his decision to enter into a revenue sharing agreement with ESPN for SECN rights. Unfortunately for the rednecks, the bubble burst and now they are dealing with the realities of that. LHN was a licensing deal that offered a defined payout until gross revenue targets were hit and then it converted to a revenue sharing agreement. Obviously, the LHN structure is the better structure.
SECN payouts were about $6.5 million last year. Because ESPN started LHN first, learned how to optimize the college network model and then applied that to SECN, there aren't a lot of expenses in the SECN structure to cut in order to make up for the greater than expected erosion in the number of subscribers. Raising carriage rates isn't going to happen. Increasing advertising revenues is the only option available to try to make up for the loss in subscriber revenue, but the SEC footprint includes the most economically stagnant and poverty riddled states in the nation.
The problem with the SECN payouts is only a problem for those who were naive enough to believe what people like Clay Travis was peddling. Clay Travis is functionally illiterate when it comes to financial analysis. If it truly were possible to bundle a bunch of marginally worthless media properties like the T3 rights of aggy, Mississippi St, Ole Miss, etc, and have the rights magically transform into properties vastly more valuable than the most valuable properties in college sports, that model would be scaled to every conference. And, if bundling a bunch of worthless media rights together somehow made them 10 to 20 times more valuable than they were on their own, what revenues would that model produce if applied to the most valuable media properties?
Those who believe the bundling of worthless media rights could create a media powerhouse are akin to those who believe mercury can be turned into gold. Of course, not so long ago aggy announced to the world they had found the secret of alchemy and they were now able to do just that. We rightfully mocked them then and we should rightfully mock them now.
The bloom is off the SECN rose and it is starting to smell. Let me say here "I told you so, you stupid rednecks. I told you two years ago this exact scenario would come to fruition."
I think the end result of the bursting of the SECN "redneck rich" fantasy will be that schools like Florida, which passed up a $10 million/yr T3 deal to make the SECN a reality, will realize the hope of increased revenues lies in no longer subsidizing far less valuable properties in a conference network and in expanding the college football playoffs.
The most logical structure for an expanded playoff would be a relegation format with a 64 team senior division of 8 8-team conferences. & conference games, four OOC and an expanded playoff. That, or course, means a total restructuring of conferences as we know them.
very interesting. i hadn't realized it was just tier 3 stuff. sounds like florida was nothing like as smart as our guys were. we obviously realized there was some value in our t3 rights that far outstrips the values of most of the teams in the conference, and banding with them would be essentially giving them - in the aggregate - most of what we are worth. then the additional impetus from wanting the big 12 to not implode pumped the numbers up for our channel.
what's amazing to me is that the school and the lhn people have made an intentionally overvalued network pay for itself. nice job there.
what's amazing to me is that the school and the lhn people have made an intentionally overvalued network pay for itself. nice job there.
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When Florida was convinced to forego their T3 deal to help make SECN a reality, people were extrapolating the projections of previous deals (using projections as the basis for projections is never a smart idea). The numbers made some sense at the time, to a degree.
What never made sense was that if Florida and Alabama were ever going to be compensated for subsidizing the less valuable programs like aggy and Mississippi St, the value of the lesser programs was going to have to soar. Rubes such as Clay Travis said this would happen "just because." If far lesser valued properties could soar in value by being bundled with other marginal properties, then that model could be applied elsewhere. The fact it wasn't pretty much showed from the start that the only people who believed the SECN model would make every SEC school fabulously wealthy were people who didn't know much about financial analysis.
And, when talking about the LHN deal, don't forget there is also a $10 million/yr deal in place for radio rights and signage as well as corporate deals with Coco-Cola, UPS, AT&T (among others). And then there is the Nike deal.
i'm not a bizness person, and bizness info usually goes into, i think, this ear here. you spoke of the valueless t3 rights in your earlier post in the sec thread. it just didn't stick here. so far your reminder has, however.
lhn sounds like an all-around pretty sound deal even given the inflated anti-bolting numbers. also sounds like sec got caught in a trap of its own making. crazy thing is that it might not have been a trap had they acted much sooner.
i didn't say sooner, did i?
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People focus on the LHN number for the value of the UT T3 deals, in addition to the LHN license (which escalates from $12.3 to $12.7 this year), UT has a $10 million deal in place for radio and signage, the Nike deal, etc, etc, etc.
And, if you want a good snapshot into the difference between UT and aggy athletics, aggy just announced they were building a new track stadium. They haven't had a home track meet (outdoor) in over a decade because they don't have the facilities. The new aggy track stadium will hold 3,000 spectators.
The attendance for the Texas Relays for just the Saturday events was 21,000.
aggy never has been able to host premier track and field events such as the Texas Relays and they never will be able to. They simply can't afford to build the facilities. To serve the interests of the people of Texas, The University of Texas is the only university in the state that has the financial wherewithal to build and maintain the necessary facilities.
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Looks to me like aggy would've been better off long-term taking DeLoss' proposed "Lone Star Network" deal.
But, that assertion is contingent on being able to negotiate similar terms to LHN. Hindsight is always 20/20, but most real media analysts knew Clay Travis' bloated projections were BS. Nice work, Duke
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Well, it is and it isn't.
One advantage SECn does have is ESPN can withhold T2 inventory and broadcast it on SECn. CBS always gets the T1 rights, followed by ESPN choosing T2. I'm not saying it happens often, but aggy vs USCe on a Thursday night shouldn't be T3 IMO.
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aggy/ So Carolina was the first game ever shown on SECN in 2014. It pretty much is regularly considered T3.
Remember the idiotic trophy Rick Perry had made in 2014 to award to the winner of the game and Nikki Haley just rolled her eyes and ignored it all?
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