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RANDOLPH DUKE THE AGS LOVE YOU

I didn't go to fish camp. I think it's a stupid tradition. A bunch of counselors just trying to win popularity contests and hook up with freshman.

I did however actually get a degree from A&M and I worked for the university for 10 years.

 
Give me a week or two and you will have the example of both the invalidating of the TAMU 12th Man trademark and having the senior TAMU administration exposed for their scheme.

Pretty impressive resume, wouldn't you say?
That is a deal. I will put up $100,000 in an escrow account of your choosing and you will match it. Within two weeks, if you can invalidate the TAMU 12th man trademark..... winner takes all? If you feel this strongly Dan, lets do it!

 
Give me a week or two and you will have the example of both the invalidating of the TAMU 12th Man trademark and having the senior TAMU administration exposed for their scheme.

Pretty impressive resume, wouldn't you say?
Oh Jesus Christ, what happened to two days ago or yesterday?

So a week or two from now you can say that you did everything on your end you are just waiting for A&M to respond and you can't make them move faster?

Stop me if this all sounds familiar.

 
My what an infestation of AGGY we have today. Did a herd of sheep come through earlier? LOL

IF there was nothing to Randolph Duke's info and he was indeed just full of shit – WHY WOULD THERE BE SO MANY AGGY ON THIS BOARD TODAY?

And isn't it just like Aggy to defy their words with their own actions . . . AT THE SAME TIME? LOL

Word to the wise which today is limited on this board – Duke is a coon dog. He's been on the scent. He knows where the coon is and has tree'd him. All he's doing is waiting on the hunters to arrive.

Duke is a researcher. It's his thing. This isn't his first rodeo. He's very successful at it. He's got his faults just like everyone else and it's easy to show up on this board for one or two days and disappear when the caca hits the fan blades.

Get your shots in now. They're meaningless because no one here takes a word you say seriously simply because of reasons stated in the first of this post. Lord knows you won't be around when Duke is standing on aggy's chest and smoking a stogie.
Ok, please represent the University of Texas with class by your comments.

Dan is not a researcher but a troll with a mental illness. I know all of you think it is amusing regarding his admonishment of A&M but it is actually quite sad.

 
what i don't get is this.  if a person came to this board and started spouting out about something about my university, i can do the logical thing and ignore him or insert some humor in my response and end it there.  i definitely would not follow said person to a different university forum and listen to the same statements and continue to hold a conversation with said person, because that would make no sense and would be a waste of time.

but yet, here we are.   :lol:

 
That is a deal. I will put up $100,000 in an escrow account of your choosing and you will match it. Within two weeks, if you can invalidate the TAMU 12th man trademark..... winner takes all? If you feel this strongly Dan, lets do it!
Alright.... after reading thru all this - finally an interesting post.  Let's see if both sides are serious players now.

 
Ok, please represent the University of Texas with class by your comments.

Dan is not a researcher but a troll with a mental illness. I know all of you think it is amusing regarding his admonishment of A&M but it is actually quite sad.
Enlighten us; who is Dan?

 
Lets assume that 100% the Duke is right? What are the ramifications? Who will really care?  Serious question. 
If Duke is 100% right he will have shot down aggy's most cherished and revered turdishan. You bet your ass aggy cares. Otherwise, why are they on a UT board questioning RD's credentials and researching methodology? They've got a statue on campus dedicated to E. King Gill for crissakes!

The ramifications of aggy no longer being able to license and sell 12th Man merchandise exclusively will expose it as a fraud. That will be funny as hell! Not that we don't have enough aggy humor to mock...

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Lets assume that 100% the Duke is right? What are the ramifications? Who will really care?  Serious question. 
The short answer is there are no ramifications.  Assuming he is 100%, it will not make a difference. 

Although our esteemed colleague likes to use the word "fraud," he is failing to realize that such word has a precise legal definition and necessary elements.  Even if Randolph is 100% correct, he will not be able to show that the references to Gill or the specific date of first use were material to the granting of the trademark.

A party alleging fraud in a TM filing has the burden of proving not only that factual representations made to the USPTO were false, but also that the representations were material to obtaining the TM and that there was a willful intent to deceive the USPTO.

“The Trademark Board has consistently held that a misstatement of the date of first use in an application for registration is not fraudulent as long as there has been some use of the mark prior to the filing date.† Aveda Corp. v. Evita Mktg., Inc., 706 F. Supp. 1419, 1425 (D. Minn. 1989).  "The claim of a date of first use is not a material allegation as long as the first use in fact preceded the application date.† Pony Express Courier Corp. v. Pony Express Delivery Service, 872 F.2d 317 (9th Cir. 1989).  Put simply and generally speaking, the date and circumstances of first use are not material to the USPTO's decision regarding registration of a TM as long as the requested mark is currently use upon application. 

Regardless of materiality and even assuming our colleague's facts are correct, he will also have an exceedingly difficult time proving the required intent to deceive:

"A third party may petition to cancel a registered trademark on the ground that the registration was obtained fraudulently. Fraud in procuring a trademark registration or renewal occurs when an applicant knowingly makes false, material representations of fact in connection with his application. A party seeking cancellation of a trademark registration for fraudulent procurement bears a heavy burden of proof. Indeed, the very nature of the charge of fraud requires that it be proven 'to the hilt' with clear and convincing evidence. There is no room for speculation, inference or surmise and, obviously, any doubt must be resolved against the charging party.

Mandated by the statute and caselaw, the Board had consistently and correctly acknowledged that there is a material legal distinction between a 'false' representation and a 'fraudulent' one, the latter involving an intent to deceive, whereas the former may be occasioned by a misunderstanding, an inadvertence, a mere negligent omission, or the like. In other words, deception must be willful to constitute fraud."

In re Bose Corp., 580 F.3d 1240, 1243 (Fed. Cir. 2009) (internal citations and quotation marks omitted).  As noted by one prominent authority, "the bottom line after Bose is that it is nearly impossible to prove a claim of fraud before the USPTO."  3-11 Gilson on Trademarks § 11.08.

So although it has been fun to follow the tilting at windmills and a small part of me admires the devotion, I hope that anyone waiting for Randolph's efforts to result in a finding of fraud relating to the TM registration of 12th Man is not holding their breath.

 
Wow, you guys have much more free time in your days than I do! Agree to disagree ...and done. At least until anything comes out regarding this issue.

 
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Last thing I'll add is that the attacks on Judge Lake's character and credibility are unwarranted.  Attack the aggies generally or the 12th man stakeholders all you want, but this perceived slight from Judge Lake makes no sense. 

Randolph keeps saying that he picked his alma mater over integrity or duty, or that he failed to read the pleadings.  The mark was never attacked in Judge Lake's court because the case before him settled.  The colts never even filed an answer or put forth any briefings on any issues.  The only pleading before Judge Lake was the complaint.  What was Judge Lake supposed to do? 

I've been before Judge Lake many times and he is as respected a judge as there is in the Southern District of Texas.  Not to mention a UT grad . . .

 
The short answer is there are no ramifications.  Assuming he is 100%, it will not make a difference. 

[blah, blah, blah]
aggy is a university that spent $75 million on a law school and $85 million on a horse barn. Sim Lake is an aggy jurist who disgustingly allows fraudulent pleadings in his court if they confer an unfair advantage unto his beloved alma mater.

And you think anyone gives two shits about what some aggy internet lawyer has to say about justifying an outright fraud being perpetuated by the senior administrators of the the cult?

In time, the state Attorney General will opine on all this. Until then, just crawl back in your corner and squeeze your testicles like a good little aggy.

 
Last thing I'll add is that the attacks on Judge Lake's character and credibility are unwarranted.  Attack the aggies generally or the 12th man stakeholders all you want, but this perceived slight from Judge Lake makes no sense. 

Randolph keeps saying that he picked his alma mater over integrity or duty, or that he failed to read the pleadings.  The mark was never attacked in Judge Lake's court because the case before him settled.  The colts never even filed an answer or put forth any briefings on any issues.  The only pleading before Judge Lake was the complaint.  What was Judge Lake supposed to do? 

I've been before Judge Lake many times and he is as respected a judge as there is in the Southern District of Texas.  Not to mention a UT grad . . .
Sim Lake allowed fraudulent pleading in his court. End of story.

When E. King Gill gave his 1964 speech on the TAMU campus that explained the school's 12th man tradition came from a 1939 radio play, Sim Lake was a sophomore on campus and very likely was in attendance, hearing Gill himself explain the truth. Don't tell me Sim Lake has no basis whatsoever to know the pleadings were fraudulent.

A basis for knowing the truth, fraudulent pleadings, "once an aggy, always an aggy."

Judge Lake can explain if he wants why he allowed the fraudulent pleadings in his court. He can explain the conditions under which he allows fraudulent pleadings in his court so others can benefit from future frauds upon the court, if he chooses. All we know is that the pleadings were indeed fraudulent and aggy Judge Lake seems to be looking the other way with no ethical problem whatsoever.

The university should have never filed the fraudulent trademark application in the first place. That Sim Lake's ethics are understandably called into question is collateral damage caused by the university's fraudulent scheme.

Sadly, there is no reasonable basis to explain why Sim lake looked the other way when the university perpetuated its fraud in his court other than he was sympathetic to the fraud and the Colts stood no chance whatsoever of ever getting a fair trial before Judge Lake.

That a defendant cannot get a fair trial in a court of an aggy jurist is reprehensible. But as we unravel more and more of this sordid tale, the depths aggys will go to protect the cult is becoming obvious. And to think every day Americans are fighting and dying to protect the very Constitution Judge Lake tossed aside so his beloved alma mater could make a few ill-gotten dollars. Tell me more about how aggys serve their country. On second thought, don't bother.

The university needs to come clean and just be honest about their fraudulent scheme. Sim Lake needs to express outrage that the university filed a fraudulent pleading in his court. Neither will happen because of misguided loyalties to the aggy culture that take precedence over principles of ethics and integrity.

 
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$85 million on a horse barn.
What the F@#K does this have to do with anything? Are you worried you are losing this argument so you have to throw out random facts in an attempt to sidetrack people? You have to be acting this obtuse on purpose.

And, once again, the AG doesn't care about this. The only way the AG office will respond is to file a restraining order against Duke.

 
WHY WOULD THERE BE SO MANY AGGY ON THIS BOARD TODAY?
Because the thought of a single 50+ year old man posting in his mom's basement, furiously typing away at his computer over something that he is destined to fail at is goddamned hilarious.

 
And you think anyone gives two shits about what some aggy internet lawyer has to say about justifying an outright fraud being perpetuated by the senior administrators of the the cult?
As opposed to . . . you?

Frankly, I don't care very much if you listen to what I say and fully expected that you would do exactly what you did - stick your fingers in your ears and ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative.  I only dropped in because there seemed to be some people asking legitimate legal questions, and it's clear you have no basis for your opinions.  My (unwanted, I.m sure) monologue wasn't for you, Randolph.

But while you're here, would you mind explaining to me how exactly the specific elements of fraud have been established?  Because you keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means.

If you're only goal is to show that the aggie narrative surrounding Gill is incorrect, then you should keep doing what you're doing.  If your goal is actually to have the TM invalidated or actual fraud established, I think you should probably stop wasting your time.  All I'm saying.

 
That is a deal. I will put up $100,000 in an escrow account of your choosing and you will match it. Within two weeks, if you can invalidate the TAMU 12th man trademark..... winner takes all? If you feel this strongly Dan, lets do it!
Dan/Duke: I contacted Kelly Coffey with JP Morgan Chase this afternoon and she will establish an escrow account of $200,000 split 50/50 between you and me if you can invalidate the TAMU 12th man trademark within two weeks. Put your research and money to the test. Kelly's number is 212-464-1909.

 
 
You know you've lost the argument when you blame dying soldiers on trademark law.
Obviously you have reading comprehension problems.

Soldiers are dying to defend the Constitution. The same Constitution that was shit upon by the administrators of TAMU when they filed their fraudulent pleadings in Sim Lake's court and the same Constitution that was made secondary to a blind loyalty of Judge Lake to his "once an aggy, always an aggy" pledge instead of his obligations as a federal jurist.

Neither the Colts, nor any other defendant, will ever get a fair trial in the court of an aggy jurist when the almighty aggy cult is the plaintiff.

How else can anyone explain Judge Lake not being outraged that the university filed fraudulent pleadings in his court? He obviously doesn't care. If any average person had their attorneys file fraudulent pleadings in his court, I have no question he would go ballistic, but when TAMU does it, he looks the other way.

How far will aggys go into the ethical sewer? At some point, all this has to stop. The university simply has to come clean and admit to their fraudulent trademark and start cleaning up the mess they have made.

 
Sim Lake allowed fraudulent pleading in his court. End of story.

When E. King Gill gave his 1964 speech on the TAMU campus that explained the school's 12th man tradition came from a 1939 radio play, Sim Lake was a sophomore on campus and very likely was in attendance, hearing Gill himself explain the truth. Don't tell me Sim Lake has no basis whatsoever to know the pleadings were fraudulent.

A basis for knowing the truth, fraudulent pleadings, "once an aggy, always an aggy."

Judge Lake can explain if he wants why he allowed the fraudulent pleadings in his court. He can explain the conditions under which he allows fraudulent pleadings in his court so others can benefit from future frauds upon the court, if he chooses. All we know is that the pleadings were indeed fraudulent and aggy Judge Lake seems to be looking the other way with no ethical problem whatsoever.

The university should have never filed the fraudulent trademark application in the first place. That Sim Lake's ethics are understandably called into question is collateral damage caused by the university's fraudulent scheme.

Sadly, there is no reasonable basis to explain why Sim lake looked the other way when the university perpetuated its fraud in his court other than he was sympathetic to the fraud and the Colts stood no chance whatsoever of ever getting a fair trial before Judge Lake.

That a defendant cannot get a fair trial in a court of an aggy jurist is reprehensible. But as we unravel more and more of this sordid tale, the depths aggys will go to protect the cult is becoming obvious. And to think every day Americans are fighting and dying to protect the very Constitution Judge Lake tossed aside so his beloved alma mater could make a few ill-gotten dollars. Tell me more about how aggys serve their country. On second thought, don't bother.

The university needs to come clean and just be honest about their fraudulent scheme. Sim Lake needs to express outrage that the university filed a fraudulent pleading in his court. Neither will happen because of misguided loyalties to the aggy culture that take precedence over principles of ethics and integrity.
Again, what was Judge Lake supposed to do?  Serious question.  The case settled and the complaint was never challenged.  You think he should sua sponte enter sanctions?  Honestly?

Of all the ridiculous things you say, your tirades against Judge Lake are some of the most ridiculous.  You are attacking him for the SOLE reason that he is aggie.  Any other court that received the case would have done the exact same thing, which is to say, nothing.

 
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