Patterson on Playing aggy
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free article on OB with Patterson interview https://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1711390
Is there some place I can get this interview in it's entirety? I am not a member of OB and never will be, but I find this interview fascinating.
I have had the privilege of meeting Patterson - after he got the AD job and years ago when he was with the Houston Aeros. Both times were at luncheons and so I didn't get to spend any intimate time with him.
Therefore I really don't have any insights to the man other than he was gracious and charming. I did get the impression that, though he is diplomatic to the nth, he is also all business and doesn't suffer fools well.
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Hello all.
I have been following this, but I've been under the weather this week, so I'm a little behind.
If y'all are referring to the athlete I think you are referring to, I'm disappointed, to say the least. Of course the Ags are going to pay up to try to get ahead. They cannot compete with us on an even playing field. They never have. When the Aggies have success in recruiting, they are writing checks. That's just the way it is.
I am really pulling for super conferences with a self-governing model and real teeth for those who cheat. If a school were ever banned from revenue distribution for a 2 year period, I don't think you would ever see anyone cheat again. I think that would be a very appropriate penalty for buying players. Let them feel the pain. Those 'Big Money Guys' could make up the difference - give them something constructive to do. I say if we have the video, release it. Heck, send it anonymously to the NYT.
I admire Earl for the stand he took when he was recruited. He refused to be bought and sold. I hope whatever player you are talking about decides to take the same stand.
btw, Dallas is playing a heck of a game.
I have been following this, but I've been under the weather this week, so I'm a little behind.
If y'all are referring to the athlete I think you are referring to, I'm disappointed, to say the least. Of course the Ags are going to pay up to try to get ahead. They cannot compete with us on an even playing field. They never have. When the Aggies have success in recruiting, they are writing checks. That's just the way it is.
I am really pulling for super conferences with a self-governing model and real teeth for those who cheat. If a school were ever banned from revenue distribution for a 2 year period, I don't think you would ever see anyone cheat again. I think that would be a very appropriate penalty for buying players. Let them feel the pain. Those 'Big Money Guys' could make up the difference - give them something constructive to do. I say if we have the video, release it. Heck, send it anonymously to the NYT.
I admire Earl for the stand he took when he was recruited. He refused to be bought and sold. I hope whatever player you are talking about decides to take the same stand.
btw, Dallas is playing a heck of a game.
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Java, it's the environment aggy put themselves into. Yea, they have some history. But what they're in now is much worse – the SEC, where everyone cheats and gets away with it.
This is one thing Texas feared all along, bringing that culture more fully into the state with aggy's switch to the SEC.
Right now, it seems centered on the 5-stars but who knows what else goes on that never gets said or heard?
At some point it will have to be decided whether or not there is any point, any value in even having the NCAA around. Right now, the cheaters don't think there's really anything to fear as long as the cheating is "clean."
The encouraging thing is - it seems not all players are totally receptive to it. I can only imagine but to me, facing a Charlie Strong after talking to some trashy booster from another school would probably guilt me into sticking with Strong. Especially if given a little while to think about it. But that's just me and my own thoughts.
This is one thing Texas feared all along, bringing that culture more fully into the state with aggy's switch to the SEC.
Right now, it seems centered on the 5-stars but who knows what else goes on that never gets said or heard?
At some point it will have to be decided whether or not there is any point, any value in even having the NCAA around. Right now, the cheaters don't think there's really anything to fear as long as the cheating is "clean."
The encouraging thing is - it seems not all players are totally receptive to it. I can only imagine but to me, facing a Charlie Strong after talking to some trashy booster from another school would probably guilt me into sticking with Strong. Especially if given a little while to think about it. But that's just me and my own thoughts.
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If I had any journalistic ability at all (which I don't), I could write a complete article on what some very knowledgeable people have told me about cheating in the SEC. For that matter, how our fine, upstanding friends in college Station have cheated in the past. So let's just say a leopard cannot change it's spots, okay? 
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The NCAA is a corrupt institution and always has been. They have never really done much about cheating by the big time programs. The give excuses (no subpoena power, for example) but if they really wanted to enforce the rules they could get it done. (financial penalties for failing to have their boosters answer questions, for instance).
The bottom line is that money talks.
The bottom line is that money talks.
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Several things:
First of all, re: the NCAA. The nc2a is everybody's favorite whipping boy. But they are simply carrying out their members wishes. If the member schools wanted tougher enforcement, it would happen.
Obviously, they prefer the status quo over spending the money to put teeth into the enforcement division. It wouldn't be that hard to do. Hire more good investigators and lawyers for the research, interrogation, deposition, etc. How much it would cost, I don't know. But most schools are barely keeping their heads above water as it is and any rocking of the boat is risky. Of course, any money spent would be wasted if
they didn't have subpoena power.
Second, if you witness cheating the honorable thing to do would be to speak out. On the other hand, making unsubstantiated charges without proof is worse than a waste of time. These things, even with subpoena power and good investigators/lawyers, are hard to prove. I believe if UT had iron-clad proof, either now or in the past, they would have spoken up rather than kept silent.
Third, there are innumerable reasons not to play aggy. It just seemed logical to me that the head business man in charge of the UT AD would have enumerated the business reasons.
In this new era of the rivalry (post 2011), without any head-to-head aggy has chosen the public media as their playing field. Texas, as usual, has chosen the high road. We could hire a PR firm to rebut every
false charge made by aggy, but it would be a full-time job. I stand fully behind the way we have chosen to move on from little brother. Let him cry and scream and throw tantrums. Meanwhile, we wait to see if
he can stand on his on two feet. That remains to be seen.
My opinion, aggy gonna be aggy.
First of all, re: the NCAA. The nc2a is everybody's favorite whipping boy. But they are simply carrying out their members wishes. If the member schools wanted tougher enforcement, it would happen.
Obviously, they prefer the status quo over spending the money to put teeth into the enforcement division. It wouldn't be that hard to do. Hire more good investigators and lawyers for the research, interrogation, deposition, etc. How much it would cost, I don't know. But most schools are barely keeping their heads above water as it is and any rocking of the boat is risky. Of course, any money spent would be wasted if
they didn't have subpoena power.
Second, if you witness cheating the honorable thing to do would be to speak out. On the other hand, making unsubstantiated charges without proof is worse than a waste of time. These things, even with subpoena power and good investigators/lawyers, are hard to prove. I believe if UT had iron-clad proof, either now or in the past, they would have spoken up rather than kept silent.
Third, there are innumerable reasons not to play aggy. It just seemed logical to me that the head business man in charge of the UT AD would have enumerated the business reasons.
In this new era of the rivalry (post 2011), without any head-to-head aggy has chosen the public media as their playing field. Texas, as usual, has chosen the high road. We could hire a PR firm to rebut every
false charge made by aggy, but it would be a full-time job. I stand fully behind the way we have chosen to move on from little brother. Let him cry and scream and throw tantrums. Meanwhile, we wait to see if
he can stand on his on two feet. That remains to be seen.
My opinion, aggy gonna be aggy.
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Aggy will be Aggy and the NCAA will continue be useless.
This thread makes me so sad. It reminds me of student athletes that wanted to go to Texas, but attended A&M because influential relatives had motive$ for them to attend A&M. They did, and their careers floundered. They ended up in a scrap heap of wasted talent. I've always suspected it was partially because they were miserable.
There are so many opportunities for athletes at Texas, and they usually go on to lead very successful lives after football. That is invaluable.
There are so many opportunities for athletes at Texas, and they usually go on to lead very successful lives after football. That is invaluable.
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A whole lot of UT fans for years talked about a desire to ditch playing A&M. A&M themselves made it happen, by going back on their word and ditching the Big XII to move to the SEC. The Aggies were told that IF they made that move, UT and the rest of the Big XII would move on too, and where scheduling was concerned, there wouldn't be any room to keep A&M on the schedule. Obviously, that meant so much to the Aggies that they caught the first train out of town, and only offered lip service to the idea of continuing to play UT and other Texas schools. Now? Some UT fans want to reschedule those deceptive s.o.b.'s.
Now, all of a sudden, Aggies are making this push to get UT back on the schedule. The same Aggies who took extra money to keep the Big XII together, then got out of town headed east as fast as they could. The same Aggies who kissed off, and pissed off UT officials by conveniently forgetting their so-called Aggie code of honor. And there are those on here, and on other sites, that want UT to conveniently forget and forgive, and get A&M back on the schedule? Really? A&M has an excuse...like some children, they obviously haven't learned yet that you can't have your cake and eat it too. UT? Sorry...what was this I've heard forever about a superior UT education? If that's true, UT fans should be smart enough to know when they've been ditched, and act accordingly. If a girlfriend ditches you for another guy, you don't keep making room on your social calendar for her when she conveniently needs someone to take her out and buy her dinner.
I'm not foolish. I know that sometime, down the road, UT and A&M will hook up again. That sometime down the road though needs to be a lot more years yet. I don't pretend to speak for anybody else, but I am genuinely happy NOT to see the cult on UT's schedule, and at my age, I hope it's years after my passing before UT is playing those liars again. I have little or no respect for the people who really run the athletic department over there, and I don't want UT involved with them. I believe you are judged by the people you hang out with. I don't want UT hanging out with A&M any more than necessary, and I really don't understand why anybody else who cares for UT would either.
Now, all of a sudden, Aggies are making this push to get UT back on the schedule. The same Aggies who took extra money to keep the Big XII together, then got out of town headed east as fast as they could. The same Aggies who kissed off, and pissed off UT officials by conveniently forgetting their so-called Aggie code of honor. And there are those on here, and on other sites, that want UT to conveniently forget and forgive, and get A&M back on the schedule? Really? A&M has an excuse...like some children, they obviously haven't learned yet that you can't have your cake and eat it too. UT? Sorry...what was this I've heard forever about a superior UT education? If that's true, UT fans should be smart enough to know when they've been ditched, and act accordingly. If a girlfriend ditches you for another guy, you don't keep making room on your social calendar for her when she conveniently needs someone to take her out and buy her dinner.
I'm not foolish. I know that sometime, down the road, UT and A&M will hook up again. That sometime down the road though needs to be a lot more years yet. I don't pretend to speak for anybody else, but I am genuinely happy NOT to see the cult on UT's schedule, and at my age, I hope it's years after my passing before UT is playing those liars again. I have little or no respect for the people who really run the athletic department over there, and I don't want UT involved with them. I believe you are judged by the people you hang out with. I don't want UT hanging out with A&M any more than necessary, and I really don't understand why anybody else who cares for UT would either.
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Justice is an equal opportunity troller. You guys see realignment a bit differently from the way it actually played out.
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