Meet the Bag Man

[bcherry168]

Pretty interesting story. Shows what we are up against in recruiting.

See it on SBNation.com

 

[bcherry168]

Couldn't get the URL to post.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Here it is, life of a bag man in the $EC.  Good stuff.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview

 

[BevosEgo]

And the NCAA can't do a thing about it. Just goes to show you how broken the system is. Great read.

 

[HornNdriftwood]

Interesting read.

This was funny:

"Hey, how'd he get that ride? His uncle bought it. How did his uncle buy it? Paid cash. Paid cash, how'd he do that? Shit, we don't know, but here's the receipt where he paid cash, and now y'all ain't got shit. Go tell the NCAA you think we're cheating because this kid's uncle bought him a used Tahoe in cash, you racist."

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[Randolph Duke]

And the NCAA can't do a thing about it. Just goes to show you how broken the system is. Great read.

It's not that they cant, they just don't want to. There are too many people with a financial interest in the status quo for any attempt at reform to gain momentum. Corruption is rampant in college sports, especially football, and the only way change will ever happen is through the various court cases.

 

[rabastad]

Anyone who thinks something like this doesn't happen at every major university, including our beloved UT, is sadly delusional.

***queue the holier-than-thou crowd***

 

[Randolph Duke]

Anyone who thinks something like this doesn't happen at every major university, including our beloved UT, is sadly delusional.

To say what happens in the SEC happens at every other school in the nation is pure bullish!t. So far this year SEC football players have racked up more arrests than all other programs combined. The SEC has had a stranglehold on the Fullmer Cup since it was originated. Integrity isnt even a consideration with SEC programs and hasn't been since I can remember.

When aggy went to the the SEC the overwhelming concern was that SEC recruiting tactics would be unleashed in Texas. UT and OU have been communication on recruiting games since aggy made their move. The scope and scale of SEC corruption is far and away above anything that occurs at almost every other program.

Brushing off what goes on in the SEC as "business as usual in college football" is sheer, absolute bullish!t.

 

[Capn Hook]

I think I might consider going the Ivy League rout if we have to do what the SEC is doing.  I hope we are not there already.

That shit sucks.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Anyone who thinks something like this doesn't happen at every major university, including our beloved UT, is sadly delusional.

Agreed, but hopefully not to the degree that it goes on in the $EC.

We've been smart enough to cover our tracks and not get hit with major NCAA sanctions.  Unlike aggy.  

 

[Bear19]

To say what happens in the SEC happens at every other school in the nation is pure bullish!t. So far this year SEC football players have racked up more arrests than all other programs combined. The SEC has had a stranglehold on the Fullmer Cup since it was originated. Integrity isnt even a consideration with SEC programs and hasn't been since I can remember.

When aggy went to the the SEC the overwhelming concern was that SEC recruiting tactics would be unleashed in Texas. UT and OU have been communication on recruiting games since aggy made their move. The scope and scale of SEC corruption is far and away above anything that occurs at almost every other program.

Brushing off what goes on in the SEC as "business as usual in college football" is sheer, absolute bullish!t.

I think you are right. I know a couple of aggy who brag about playing the SEC recruiting game. All they care about is not getting caught.

 

[BevosEgo]

It's not that they cant, they just don't want to. There are too many people with a financial interest in the status quo for any attempt at reform to gain momentum. Corruption is rampant in college sports, especially football, and the only way change will ever happen is through the various court cases.

Oh trust me, I know. I went to North Carolina State University during the time our most hated rival (UNC) were in the thick of their countless NCAA infractions. After this most recent wistleblower raised some red flags about the fake classes and all, which I'm sure you all heard about, it really showed me how big of a joke the NCAA really is.  Based on the article I referenced at the bottom that talks about Congress questioning the NCAA brass about them ignoring academic fraud: "the NCAA declined to sanction the university, saying the scandal was academic in nature, not athletic". Well, based on what I could find, the NCAA mission statement is: "Our mission is to be an integral part of higher education and to focus on the development of our student-athletes". What a crock of shit right?

Here's the link if you're interested - http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/us/unc-academic-fraud-investigation/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook

 

[HornNdriftwood]

Anyone who thinks something like this doesn't happen at every major university, including our beloved UT, is sadly delusional.

Yea, I call BS on this, too. The article didn't mention, there's one thing required at sec schools that doesn't and won't happen at Texas. The coaches, staff and admin all have to look the other way. They KNOW but they don't want to HEAR.

If and when our coaches condone this (by pretending not to know), I'll have to rethink my fandom.

Hook 'em.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I'm afraid this is going on in the Big 12 too. Yep and this includes UT too.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Let's say, for arguments sake, that UT and others are "cheating just like SEC teams".  If so, how brazenly incompetent or stupid do you have to be to get caught?  The reality is the NCAA doesn't want to catch anybody!  Why kill the golden goose?

But, leave it to aggy to set a new standard for futility and idiocy.  Proud members of the cheating "Hall of Shame".   :lol:  

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[J.B. TexasEx]

Good take from Allen Kenney at Blatant Homerism

http://blatanthomerism.com/articles/2014/4/its-a-bag-mans-mans-world

 

[Randolph Duke]

Oh trust me, I know. I went to North Carolina State University during the time our most hated rival (UNC) were in the thick of their countless NCAA infractions. After this most recent wistleblower raised some red flags about the fake classes and all, which I'm sure you all heard about, it really showed me how big of a joke the NCAA really is.  Based on the article I referenced at the bottom that talks about Congress questioning the NCAA brass about them ignoring academic fraud: "the NCAA declined to sanction the university, saying the scandal was academic in nature, not athletic". Well, based on what I could find, the NCAA mission statement is: "Our mission is to be an integral part of higher education and to focus on the development of our student-athletes". What a crock of shit right?

Here's the link if you're interested - http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/us/unc-academic-fraud-investigation/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook

We are all aware of what went on at UNC, just as we are all well aware the professor who pulled that stunt is facing criminal charges. We are also all aware of the article written by the FSU prof that details the problems with that institution and the problems with the past academic cheating scandals at the U.S. Naval Academy. 

What I don't know about the UNC issue was whether the professor was increasing demand for his class to create a more favorable employment picture for himself and saw athletes are easy targets to pad enrollment figures in his classes or if he set out to create an atmosphere where athletes could circumvent academic requirements to maintain athletic eligibility. The distinction between the two motives is hugely important. Quite frankly, I don't care what the case is. the matter is in the hands of criminal prosecutors. If any school wants to elevate NCAA rules violations into criminal matters, they will eventually get ratted out by other schools. Schools rightfully take exception to having to maintain reasonably NCAA compliant programs while competitors are conducting ongoing criminal activities. I certainly don't want the NCAA conducting investigations of ongoing criminal activities.  

 

[streettopeschel]

Anyone who thinks something like this doesn't happen at every major university, including our beloved UT, is sadly delusional.

***queue the holier-than-thou crowd***

1) you know this to be true about UT, how?

2) it's 'cue'

 

[Randolph Duke]

1) you know this to be true about UT, how?

2) it's 'cue'

Every NCAA program is making its football players live on campus, show up for class on time and sit in the first two rows and every NCAA football program sits starting running backs out of spring practice for "periods of reflection."

While also, every program ignores player arrests, failed drug tests and other character issues to maintain player eligibility. 

How do I know this to be true? 

Because if it happens at one school, it happens at every school. Trust me. I know how things are done. I'm an insider. 

/end sarcasm