Welcome to the HornSports Forum

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our Texas Longhorns message board community.

SignUp Now!

Looking at coordinators and small school coaches

LongviewLobo01

Premium Members
Joined
Oct 22, 2013
Messages
927
So often we all get caught up in the "homerun" or "big name" hires that we miss out on guys who could become the next "homerun." I remember an article over on Barking Carnival last year about just this topic. I can't remember who wrote it, but basically they were looking for the next Jim Harbaugh, a guy who worked his way from the lower ranks and made it in the big time coaching world. I distinctly remember one of the names he brought up was the HC at Utah State at the time and the guy who replaced Bielma at Wisconsin, Gary Anderson and there's no doubting the job he's done in his first year there.

If Texas misses on the Saban, Meyer and Briles' of the coaching world, here are some guys that need to be mentioned:

Kirby Smart, Defensive Coordinator, Alabama - Everyone knows Smart and what he has accomplished working with Saban. The biggest question when hiring any DC who's worked under Saban is how well they will do when they are no longer with him, but I think Smart is ready. He's the biggest coordinator out there when it comes to hiring a HC, but would he leave Alabama when he could be handed the keys to that machine in a few years when Saban retires? He's already turned down big jobs before, but Texas might be too hard for him to pass up. If you can't have Saban, why not have the guy who looks like the next one?

Chad Morris, Offensive Coordinator, Clemson - As Smart is to DC's, Morris is to OC's. If you're looking for the next big thing and want an offensive mind who could be the next Gus Malzahn, look no further than the former Lake Travis Head Coach. Ties to Texas and big offensive numbers at every stop make him an extremely attractive option in today's college football landscape. I laugh every time I see someone mention him as a possibility for OC because the only way he's leaving Clemson is for his own gig. He's rocketed up the ladder very quickly since his time in the Texas high school ranks and is very comparable to Auburn's Malzahn. Instead of trying to poach Malzahn from Auburn, why not try to find the next one?

Philip Montgomery, Offensive Coordinator, Baylor - Everyone wants Art Briles because of the offense Baylor, but the guy who actually calls the plays is Montgomery. He's been with Briles since their high school days at Stephenville and after a short detour at Denton High School he was hired by Briles at Houston and has been with him ever since. Obviously, the concern would be how he would fare without Briles, but just like Smart, you have to think that he has been able to learn from Briles and could be in line for that job if he sticks around.

Tim DeRuyter, Head Coach, Fresno State - The former aggy DC took over at Fresno State after Sherman was fired and took a 4-9 team to 9-4 in his first season. In his second season, he's undefeated and has his team ranked 15th in the country. Being that he has a defensive background, it's not surprise that the defenses at Fresno State have been solid, but he also has them playing an up tempo style of offense which you don't always see from defensive minded coaches.

Willie Fritz, Head Coach, Sam Houston State - Talk about a winner everywhere he's been. He's won two JUCO titles at Blinn, took Central Missouri to their first playoff berth in 32 years and has taken Sam Houston State to back to back FCS title games. He's a guy who definitely knows the state of Texas.

Craig Bohl, Head Coach, North Dakota State - Most people probably hadn't heard of North Dakota State before they beat Kansas State this year, but they have won back to back titles (over Fritz and SHSU) at the FCS level and are poised to make it 3 in a row. He has been at NDSU for 11 years and has taken them up to the FCS level. He coached as an assistant at schools like Duke and Nebraska previously so he isn't lost at the top level.

 
Steve Patterson will make a solid choice. I have no doubt that when the dust settles, We will have Saban or another very qualified HC. Speculation is fun and all, we have the right people in place to make good choices.

 
The FCS guys wont happen, even if they were the right choice.

Morris is the hot name, but if Sumlin jumps, with Morris being an Aggie, chances are he would go there correct?

 
Morris is the hot name, but if Sumlin jumps, with Morris being an Aggie, chances are he would go there correct?
He absolutely would. I knew Morris back when he was coaching Stephenville High School and former Texas temporary QB, Jevan Snead. Morris is die-hard aggie, all day long. Not only was he Aggie but he brought fellow Aggies with him to some of his coaching jobs. While he'd entertain the Texas coaching position if they offered, I think he'd check in to see what was going on with Sumlin. And if Morris did come coach here and the Aggie job came open, I think he'd leave Texas and all of it's resources for the job in College Station. I know we Longhorn fans like to believe that nobody's loyalty would be stronger than the allure of coaching here...but Morris' loyalty to TAMU is.

Edit: I'm surprised Jeremy Pruitt didn't make this list, if we're listing Coordinators.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I'm still pulling for Andersen from Wisconsin. Young coach that turned around Utah state and is doing good with Wisconsin!

 
I mean he definitely sounds like the kind of guy you'd like to see coaching Texas, right? We'd have to bring in a pretty awesome Offensive Coordinator though as Pruitt's a defensive guy. If they brought in Pruitt (which I don't think has a chance of happening), I'd want them to steal away Nick Rolovich from Nevada as their new OC.

 
I listed Pruitt on another site. The issue with Pruitt when you are comparing him to guys like Smart, Morris and Montgomery is that he's only been a coordinator for one season. Granted he's been a VERY, VERY good coordinator this year, but if we are going to look that route I have a feeling that we would go another route because of experience. He is an excellent recruiter, maybe the best one on Alabama's staff before moving to FSU, and has done a good job this year.

I would love to steal him from FSU after this season for whoever is our new coach. Granted he runs a lot of 3-4, but he has shown he can stop the spread and that's critical in the Big 12. And since we would be losing Akina with the new staff, Pruitt would be a guy who could come in and coach DBs at the same level.

Maybe we can hire Smart and have him bring Pruitt with him...

 
I'm still pulling for Andersen from Wisconsin. Young coach that turned around Utah state and is doing good with Wisconsin!
I really like Andersen too, but I don't know if he would leave that job after one season. He's definitely someone I would call though. Especially if he could bring Chucky Keeton with him from their days together at Utah State.

 
I really like Andersen too, but I don't know if he would leave that job after one season. He's definitely someone I would call though. Especially if he could bring Chucky Keeton with him from their days together at Utah State.
I believe it would be hard to pull him away, but Wisconsin is a leap frog program. It's not very often that Texas comes knocking on your door.

That's like being a CEO for a regional grocery store and getting offered a job of becoming the CEO of Walmart.

I think he would do it.

 
The FCS guys wont happen, even if they were the right choice.
Morris is the hot name, but if Sumlin jumps, with Morris being an Aggie, chances are he would go there correct?
I have no doubt in my mind that we'd never look FCS. We think we are too good for that kind of coach. Wonder if Ohio State regrets hiring that Tressel guy back in the day.

My biggest issue with the coaching search is that we are going to be too enamored with hiring a name coach and not the best coach. There's 3-4 guys that you HAVE to call, but if they don't come we need to reboot the search and start looking for someone who's going to just win games. Guys like Bohl and Fritz have done that. So has Andersen. Tressel did it at Youngstown State before getting hired at tOSU. Hopefully Patterson will look beyond a coaches' name and find someone that is going to coach the players up and win.

I'd be willing to bet if I posted random coaches resumes without putting their names beside them I could get a lot of you to pick our lesser known coaches over bigger names without question. That's almost what I think we need to do if Saban, Meyer, Briles and Fisher say no.

 
I've got to believe that the next coach will have HC experience. You have to go all the way back to Ed Price taking over for Blair Cherry in 1951 as the last time Texas made a hire without any previous HC experience. That being said, I really like Fresno's Tim DeRuyter. That could be one of those flying-under-the-radar choices. Don't think Mike Gundy is a likely hire, simply because he flirted last year with the other UT. I think he's a true Okie State Cowboy and will not leave. Craig Bohl will be the next head coach at Nebraska, IMO. Kirby Smart will have to start a little smaller for his first gig. Jim Mora, Jr. and Muschamp are my two way too early favorites, provided Saban is only a pipe dream of a chance.

 
I'd be willing to bet if I posted random coaches resumes without putting their names beside them I could get a lot of you to pick our lesser known coaches over bigger names without question.
This is an excellent idea

 
I've got to believe that the next coach will have HC experience. You have to go all the way back to Ed Price taking over for Blair Cherry in 1951 as the last time Texas made a hire without any previous HC experience.
Price ran the program into the ground after getting some wins with other guys players.

 
I have no doubt in my mind that we'd never look FCS. We think we are too good for that kind of coach. Wonder if Ohio State regrets hiring that Tressel guy back in the day.
My biggest issue with the coaching search is that we are going to be too enamored with hiring a name coach and not the best coach. There's 3-4 guys that you HAVE to call, but if they don't come we need to reboot the search and start looking for someone who's going to just win games. Guys like Bohl and Fritz have done that. So has Andersen. Tressel did it at Youngstown State before getting hired at tOSU. Hopefully Patterson will look beyond a coaches' name and find someone that is going to coach the players up and win.

I'd be willing to bet if I posted random coaches resumes without putting their names beside them I could get a lot of you to pick our lesser known coaches over bigger names without question. That's almost what I think we need to do if Saban, Meyer, Briles and Fisher say no.
I agree that it would be nice to just hire the "best" coach and not necessarily the "biggest name" coach but unfortunately I'm not sure that those involved in making the decision will not consider applicable experience to be a driving factor. By applicable experience I mean HC experience at a top tier program.

A question does come to mind. If we do approach 3-4 coaches and they all turn down the job, a) what does that say about the state of the program as a whole if anything and B) how patient will the committee be in finding the best HC and not the first HC that will say yes?

 
Back
Top Bottom