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Let's talk Oklahoma State

Thiggystyle

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There is probably something more productive I could be doing right now but yet here I am.

Oklahoma State is a match-up that, without having seen them actually play, scares me. So I decided to do a little research and see what they look like on paper. Oklahoma State is currently ranked 12th in the BCS standings with a record of 8-1. Their lone loss coming from West Virginia. OSU decided to play a $EC type non-conference schedule this year, matching up against Mississippi State, UTSA, and Lamar - but at least they won! So let's throw out the OOC games and just look at common opponents.

Texas and Oklahoma State have played 5 common opponents: Kansas, Kansas State, TCU, Iowa State, and West Virginia.

Offensively, here is how each has fared against those common opponents:

Texas gained 416 yards on offense

Ok Lite gained 412 yards on offense

Texas scored 33.4 points per game

Ok Lite scored 33.2 points per game

Defensively, here is how each has team has done against the common opponents:

Texas has allowed 360 yards per game

Ok Lite has allowed 342 yards per game

Texas has allowed 22 points per game

Ok St has allowed 20 points per game

So far the game looks pretty even.

Oklahoma State's offense is interesting. They have deployed two quarterbacks this year, J.W. Walsh and Clint Chelf. Right now, J.W. has been the better passer with more completions and yardage, but they are even on touchdowns. Walsh is known as the better runner but both have broken big runs this year (40+ yards) and each has scored 3 rushing touchdowns. Chelf played the majority of the game against KU but I hear he has a propensity to throw into coverage. (Remind you of anyone?) Roland and Smith are their running backs. Roland has been more productive but they only have about 18 carries separating the two. Important note: Ok St top receiver Stewart injured his leg against Kansas and left the game early - I don't know his status for this weekends game. Adjusted for quality of competition, they are 13th in points per game, 18th per play, and 34th per possession. Again, adjusted for quality of competition, they are 30th in yards per play and 64th in yards per possession. Luckily for Texas, Ok State hasn't shown that much success running the ball (56th) and they aren't good at converting their own 3rd downs (73rd). They don't give up a lot of sacks (10th) though I don't know if they've played a front like Texas'.

Basically, Ok St's offense, so far this season, has benefited from good field position.

Special Teams could be a deciding factor in this week's game.

OK State is very good at punt return (19th), net kickoff (8th), and kickoff return (7th) but they aren't great at net punt (97th). Texas has been mediocre at stopping punt and kickoff returns, though we do have the potential to get a big punt return. I'm not sure what has been up with Nick Rose lately but I am seeing way too many kick-off's coming down at the 2-5 yard line. We can not allow Gilbert to get his hands on a kick-off with a head of steam. He returned one 100 yards last week against KU. Conversely, Daje needs to stay focused, catch the ball, and then run like Forrest Gump until DKR gives him a "STOP!" Their kicker is average, at best, 53%, so we have an advantage there but I really don't want to be kicking field goals again this week...

We will need to have good field position because OSU's defense is not bad. OK State is pretty good at stopping the run (21st) and they're good at getting the opponent off the field on third down (15th). They don't get a lot of sacks (88th) but they do pick opponents off (11th). McCoy's "moxy" and ability to convert 3rd down's will be another key to the game. We will need to sustain drives if not to score then to stay ahead on the field position battle.

Net/Net: We need to kick the ball out of the endzone on kick-off's and angle our punts out of bounds. We need a solid return game to help with field position because we won't be able to run the ball consistently to stay ahead of the chains. McCoy will need to stay hot all game and make smart reads away from double coverage and protect the football. Defensively, we need to be sound and wrap up. Oklahoma State will make a few plays but we can not allow them to get on a roll. The crowd could be a factor this week as this will be the most exciting home game, to date, all year.

I'll call my winner and score in this week's pick'em thread.

Hook "Em Horns!

Edit: all stats from adjustedstats.com - credit to alphahydro

 
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Before reading all of that, I assumed Oklahoma State had a larger edge on us than they really do. In all reality, I think they may have just benefited from not dropping games early. I feel like this game has no other choice than to be a shootout. Texas will need to control Time of Possession but still be open to the idea of threatening with the deep ball. On top of that, I wouldn't shy from the idea of throwing Daje out into the flat for some quick screens.

Prediction: Texas 37 Oklahoma State 35

X-Factor: Jaxon Shipley

Hero of the Game: Anthony Fera (Fera bangs in a last second FG)

 
Very interesting. Maybe a couple of other things to consider. Grey had rushed for 780 yrds/86 per game or about 44% of the total rushing yards per game. Question, are Brown & Bergeron capable of making up the difference? Also with the forecast of rain on Saturday it might come down to which quarterback can handle the adverse weather conditions best when it comes to the passing game. As long as he keeps with the short to intermediate passes I'd put my money on Case - granted I'm not putting a lot of money on him but I think he knows his limitations and is smart enough to stay within them in bad weather.

 
Very interesting. Maybe a couple of other things to consider. Grey had rushed for 780 yrds/86 per game or about 44% of the total rushing yards per game. Question, are Brown & Bergeron capable of making up the difference? Also with the forecast of rain on Saturday it might come down to which quarterback can handle the adverse weather conditions best when it comes to the passing game. As long as he keeps with the short to intermediate passes I'd put my money on Case - granted I'm not putting a lot of money on him but I think he knows his limitations and is smart enough to stay within them in bad weather.
I like this point about Grey, I actually meant to bring it up but got distracted. I think that we can still find production with Brown, Berg, and Overstreet. Remember that Grey was the benefactor of some worn down defenses and gained a lot of his yardage late in games. (I actually like to see that stat but don't have it handy.) Throw in some Daje and I think we can still see some rushing production - especially if we get him out in space on the edges.

I only see a 40% chance of rain so I am not sure how much of a factor the weather will be. We'll have a better picture of that as Saturday gets closer. I like your point about Case understanding who he is and his shortcomings, as well as his strengths. I think this gives him the edge over the other two on the junior land thieves.

 
Wow. I had no idea how evenly matched these two teams appear on paper. OSU is playing as good as they have all year. I think the change at the QB position has made all of the difference for them. I hope I am wrong, but I am picking OSU in this one. I will say 38-27.

 
I'm not entirely sure what to think about this game. Oklahoma State is coming in with a 5 game win streak, but the only ranked team they beat during the stretch is Texas Tech. They finish the season with Texas, Baylor and Oklahoma so that should tell you what their schedule has been thus far. But they have done what they were supposed to outside of the West Virginia game on the road and we just saw first hand what can happen when you play out there.

I think Greg Robinson is going to focus on stopping their run game and make them one dimensional. Oklahoma State's offense seems to be either feast or famine on the ground, with yardages of 95, 281, 342 and 81 over the past four games. It's not surprise that the two games they piled up rushing yards they scored 50+ points and they struggled against TCU, scoring only 24. They didn't run the ball very well against Kansas and got a kickoff return and interception return deep inside Kansas territory for some easy scores to score 42 points in that game.

Our defense is better than TCU's so I don't think we will be in a shootout. If the defense can continue to play well and the offense can continue to find ways to score I don't think this game is going to be nearly as tough as I thought it was going to be a week ago.

 
It appears that it is our strength (defense) against their strength (offense). I think with their inexperience at QB and injury at WR we can win that battle, but, can our offense beat their defense?

Looks like it's going to be a nice day but a little windy at kick-off, could effect Case's ability to get the ball down the field. Hopefully, it doesn't show up in the kicking game...

 
We better beat'em. My boss is an OSU fan/almost alum and he just called me here at the office to try and talk smack. He just crossed into Oklahoma heading to see his brother. I told him he'd better stop and take the Longhorn decal off his truck that I put on yesterday. He did. He's pretty pissed because it was a lie. :)

Besides, tomorrow is my birthday so my wife doesn't want to have to put up with a cranky drunk whose team just lost. She'd much prefer just a regular, happy drunk.

 
With Grey out do you think Overstreet gets any touches?
Yes, Jalen will get some snaps. He proved himself late against NMSU but had a groin injury following that and never saw the field since then due to the depth at that position. We'll utilize Brown and Bergeron for the most part. Daje will get some looks probably in reverse type plays or maybe even catching the ball out of a RB position to get him matched up against a LB. Jalen will get some snaps but it will probably be late and depend on situation.

 
I hope texas wins to shut these haters up! Especially these clowns at espn! You'd think ok st is the best team in cfb the way they talk about them! The continued disrespect for this team is a great thing! Lou holtz did pick texas to win because his grandson is at texas & Colt Mccoy is playing good football! Texas 30-27! #Hookem #TurnUpDKR

 
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