If you had the Texans #1 pick, what would you do with it?
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Actually, I think that's what they want to do. From what I've read the Browns really want Johnny, which makes sense since those poor fans need something to be excited about. The Texans are interested in Blake Bortles, so a trade with Cleveland is my prediction now.
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I'll eat my shoe if Clowney runs a 4.46 - he might be able to hit that number on his home track, but I don't see any way he does it in Indy.
As for Houston, if I'm the GM my priorities are as follows:
1. Trade Down.
2. Failing a trade down draft Teddy Bridgewater - congrats Houston you've drafted your Qb for the next decade, now don't screw it up.
3. If they are able to trade down they need to grab Clowney (if available) and then pick up Mettenberger in the second. If Clowney isn't available then Khalil Mack or Greg Robinson are nice consolation prizes.
Here is something I wrote on a diff thread about the Houston GM and whether we should have confidence in his ability to make the right call here -- in case anyone else here wants to keep kicking this around --
I am fine with trading down for more picks. But this raises the same doubts about our GM Rick Smith. The jury is still out on him, but IMO he has a mostly poor record to date and I was in favor of letting him go along with Kubes. Around here, we dont even know who was actually responsible for drafting JJ Watt - was it Smith, was it Wade Phillips, or was it one of the scouts who forced his view on them? They wont tell us. Outside of Watt, however, his picks overall have been below average.
Smith took the job in 2006. That year was a good draft (Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Eric Winston, Owen Daniels) but Charlie Casserly was probably the one actually still calling the shots at that time. Since then, the draft record is not so good. 2007, his first draft flying solo, was a disaster. 2008 gave Duane Brown only. 2009 gave LB Cushing (good choice over his SC teammate OLB Clay Matthews?). Was Connor Barwin a good choice that year (over LeSean McCoy a few picks later)? 2010 was a disaster unless you love Kareem Jackson over Devin McCourty 7 picks later. He also took Earl Mitchell and Daryl Sharpton that year over Navorro Bowman and Geno Atkins. 2011 was a disaster after Watt -- Smith took Brooks Reed over Justin Houston when we were desperate for an OLB. And he took 3 DBs -- Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael and Shiloh Keo over Richard Sherman when we were desperate for DB help. In 2012, he took Posey over TY Hilton when we were desperate for a 2nd WR opposite Andre Johnson. Last year, he took WR Hopkins over Cordarrelle Patterson (2 picks later) and Keenan Allen. All of these examples are with the benefit of hindsight, of course, but isn't this one of the primary methods of evaluating GMs? Does this draft record not establish a pattern of underachieving?
So how did Smith keep the job? I suspect he used the old GM line to the owner of, "It's not the players" - sticking the knife in his old friend Gary Kubiak. The thing is for now, if Rick Smith blows this draft (which we likely wont be able to actually judge for a few years) then a golden opportunity will have been lost to do a quick rebuild of this team while there is still a core group of solid veterans around. We have a rare opportunity this year with the first pick in every round but I worry that we are going to blow it. That Smith is going to blow it.
Anyways -- to the OL, the line has never been the same since they let go of RT Winston and RG Briesel, which they did immediately after giving Foster a new big money deal. Possibly another mark against Smith's decision-making skills. The new RG Brandon Brooks showed good signs of being a player in 2013. But we are still weak at RT and the one-time reliable LG Smith had a bad year too. The Kubiak offense was dependent upon a good running game. So things quickly fell apart once opposing defenses began blowing up our RBs. But, fix those two spots on the OL, get Foster back healthy (Tate is gone I assume) and whoever is playing QB just got a huge boost. So, your idea of trading down to take a top Right Tackle (although some say Matthews could be a better center) may not be that far off from reality.
I am fine with trading down for more picks. But this raises the same doubts about our GM Rick Smith. The jury is still out on him, but IMO he has a mostly poor record to date and I was in favor of letting him go along with Kubes. Around here, we dont even know who was actually responsible for drafting JJ Watt - was it Smith, was it Wade Phillips, or was it one of the scouts who forced his view on them? They wont tell us. Outside of Watt, however, his picks overall have been below average.
Smith took the job in 2006. That year was a good draft (Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Eric Winston, Owen Daniels) but Charlie Casserly was probably the one actually still calling the shots at that time. Since then, the draft record is not so good. 2007, his first draft flying solo, was a disaster. 2008 gave Duane Brown only. 2009 gave LB Cushing (good choice over his SC teammate OLB Clay Matthews?). Was Connor Barwin a good choice that year (over LeSean McCoy a few picks later)? 2010 was a disaster unless you love Kareem Jackson over Devin McCourty 7 picks later. He also took Earl Mitchell and Daryl Sharpton that year over Navorro Bowman and Geno Atkins. 2011 was a disaster after Watt -- Smith took Brooks Reed over Justin Houston when we were desperate for an OLB. And he took 3 DBs -- Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael and Shiloh Keo over Richard Sherman when we were desperate for DB help. In 2012, he took Posey over TY Hilton when we were desperate for a 2nd WR opposite Andre Johnson. Last year, he took WR Hopkins over Cordarrelle Patterson (2 picks later) and Keenan Allen. All of these examples are with the benefit of hindsight, of course, but isn't this one of the primary methods of evaluating GMs? Does this draft record not establish a pattern of underachieving?
So how did Smith keep the job? I suspect he used the old GM line to the owner of, "It's not the players" - sticking the knife in his old friend Gary Kubiak. The thing is for now, if Rick Smith blows this draft (which we likely wont be able to actually judge for a few years) then a golden opportunity will have been lost to do a quick rebuild of this team while there is still a core group of solid veterans around. We have a rare opportunity this year with the first pick in every round but I worry that we are going to blow it. That Smith is going to blow it.
Anyways -- to the OL, the line has never been the same since they let go of RT Winston and RG Briesel, which they did immediately after giving Foster a new big money deal. Possibly another mark against Smith's decision-making skills. The new RG Brandon Brooks showed good signs of being a player in 2013. But we are still weak at RT and the one-time reliable LG Smith had a bad year too. The Kubiak offense was dependent upon a good running game. So things quickly fell apart once opposing defenses began blowing up our RBs. But, fix those two spots on the OL, get Foster back healthy (Tate is gone I assume) and whoever is playing QB just got a huge boost. So, your idea of trading down to take a top Right Tackle (although some say Matthews could be a better center) may not be that far off from reality.
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We all know is the Texans really need a QB. I just don't feel that JF (Manziel) is good enough for the Texans to make him a 1st rounder. I must admit that after a$m ran off to the sec I did waste my time watching there games. My feeling is based what I have heard on TV. So I probably am not one to say anything. My friends y'all have a great weekend.
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I'm either drafting Teddy Bridgewater or Clowney. If not trading down and taking Jake Mathews. OL play was terrible.
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I really, really like this idea - with the exception I take Evans with the 4th pick.
New article on Manziel here http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/From-Johnny-Football-to-Johnny-Manziel-The-5235518.php?t=c80d489e2acba496f0#/0
He argues on his own behalf that he should be the first pick
I will be curious to see what the NFL lists his actual height at. The aggies list him at 6'1.
My guess is that he is less than 6'.
Winston is listed at 6'4.
He argues on his own behalf that he should be the first pick
I will be curious to see what the NFL lists his actual height at. The aggies list him at 6'1.
My guess is that he is less than 6'.
Winston is listed at 6'4.
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I wouldn't touch McCarron either. He's not good.
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Trade down. Clowney seems injury prone, unless he just shuts it down with small issues to save himself for the NFL. Not sold on manziel, I envision him getting sacked frequently trying to extend plays which may lead to injuries. Get a QB in the later rounds, or trade with skins for their backup (blanking on his name). Just a thought from my years of experience as a couch NFL GM
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