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Greg Little

I'm sorry, RD, I love ya. But that's just a joke of a statement. He's had one year with what was left to him. And somehow, you think you've made a point?

You hate Watson. We get it. No sense in letting your feelings say dumb things like this.
In all seriousness, what about the TCU or Arky games lead you to believe that after a year under Shawn Watson the UT offense progressed in any way, shape or form?
The bottom line is the skill players (not just the offensive line) regressed during the year. Not a single skill position player developed under Shawn Watson and not a single top level defensive coordinator had any problem shutting down Shawn Watson's offense late in the season.

Shawn Watson is inept. No elite offensive player should risk their career committing to play for Watson. I wish I had reason to say otherwise, but a QB who wants to work with Watson as a position coach stands a chance. Any other offensive recruit should commit to another program. Shawn Watson is a great mid-major coordinator. As a D1 OC, he is way in over his skill level.

 
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In all seriousness, what about the TCU or Arky games lead you to believe that after a year under Shawn Watson the UT offense progressed in any way, shape or form?

The bottom line is the skill players (not just the offensive line) regressed during the year. Not a single skill position player developed under Shawn Watson and not a single top level defensive coordinator had any problem shutting down Shawn Watson's offense late in the season.

Shawn Watson is inept. No elite offensive player should risk their career committing to play for Watson. I wish I had reason to say otherwise, but a QB who wants to work with Watson as a position coach stands a chance. Any other offensive recruit should commit to another program. Shawn Watson is a great mid-major coordinator. As a D1 OC, he is way in over his skill level.
Pesimism at its best! Glad you are not a recruiter for Texas. I will give Watson some time to bring in his recruits and coach them up. Not a huge fan of his, but the meager OL pool he dealt with last year would have caused any team to have difficulty. Either way, I look forward to watching the team this season. I believe the offense will have improved, maybe not to VY levels but enough to hopefully win more games. I am not a football coach, nor did I play HS ball. I will let Strong run his ship and see how we do. Have you coached or played HS or college football? Everyone is frustrated by the recent lack of success with Texas football, I will trust in the football professionals to right the ship. Looking forward to kickoff in South Bend!
 
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Coach Royal had a very fine offensive line coach during the wishbone era. Willie Zapalac.

I well remember him, for I was here at that time. Was said that the UT offensive linemen were often outweighed 20 lbs per man.

But handled the line play with technique, quickness and coordination.

As i recall, all the assistants under Royal really mattered in making the whole thing work.

All begins with line play. So we'll see. 2015 will tell a lot.

http://www.chron.com/sports/longhorns/article/Zapalac-remembered-fondly-by-Aggies-Longhorns-1701908.php

 
Why are you changing your story and completely nonresponsive to what I said?

Above you said "Until upgrades past Watson UT is going to be about developing 3 stars". This simply isn't true. Texas landed 8 4 stars on offense last year and have 3 4 stars currently committed in the '16 class. Your hate for Watson prevents you from having any type of real dialogue on recruiting because you just completely ignore facts like I posted above. i should know better to get in arguments with you because your views on Watson are so distorted. 
Disagree. His views are not distorted, he's dishonest. He ignored your facts that we are getting four star recruits for the offense. He posted three times since you posted these facts and he just ignores those pesky facts and continues to make his speech. That's his MO, just keep repeating the same false arguments and ignore any facts in the meantime.

 He's not anti Watson, he's anti Strong, Watson is acceptable to bash, but not CS at this point. You can't argue or debate an issue with a dishonest person and he's a dishonest person.

 
It all begins with the OL. A very true statement. Center and Guard play should be very improved this season. If Wick can find two tackles that can play next season might be a pleasant one.

 
so he's a decommit from Briles and was being pursued by Bama, USC and aggy. And yet Shawn the Incompetent lands him. Interesting.
Looks like Dickson did not get the memo that Watson is incompetent.

"The offense is headed in the right direction with Coach Norvell with the wide receivers and a great offensive coordinator," Dickson told Horns247 earlier this week.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2015/7/14/8962605/trendavian-dickson-texas-longhorns-commit

 
In all seriousness, what about the TCU or Arky games lead you to believe that after a year under Shawn Watson the UT offense progressed in any way, shape or form?

The bottom line is the skill players (not just the offensive line) regressed during the year. Not a single skill position player developed under Shawn Watson and not a single top level defensive coordinator had any problem shutting down Shawn Watson's offense late in the season.

Shawn Watson is inept. No elite offensive player should risk their career committing to play for Watson. I wish I had reason to say otherwise, but a QB who wants to work with Watson as a position coach stands a chance. Any other offensive recruit should commit to another program. Shawn Watson is a great mid-major coordinator. As a D1 OC, he is way in over his skill level.

In all seriousness, 62-14 to OU and somehow we were able to still get top talent. As well as the other wipe outs that were 100 times worse than the ones you're trying to point to.

RD, believe what you like. I feel like I'm trying to talk sense into a tree here.

 
RD,

as a child, I witnessed women who complained incessantly. They drove their husbands crazy with their negativity. They were like a dog with a bone. Unfortunately, you are the same way about Watson. Is primal defense correct? Is your problem actually with Strong?

Of course, attacking Strong would be very, very foolish. I'm not certain that I have seen a more well respected man on the 40 Acres, with the exception of DKR. Whatever your agenda is, your arguments are falling on deaf ears - it's tiresome.

Hook 'em!

 
I tend to agree with Duke on this.  I am not sold on Watson either.

What exactly has Watson proved?  That our offense was better than Kansas in the red zone and second to last in Division I.  We ranked 110ish on first down percentage.  I dont know the stats exactly but its depressing to look them up.  Seriously,  arguments can be made Swoopes regressed over the season not improved.  His best games were his first 2 games and his last 2 games were well: 7 TO's vs TCU and 25 yards vs Arkansas.  

I know Swoopes is a project.  Tell me why everyone touts the "potential upside, arm strength, etc" of a Sophomore QB yet Tech has a true frosh setting BIG 12 passing records in his 3rd game vs Baylor.  Maybe their QB coach is better or possibly Mahommes is just better.

Take the flip side for instance.  Our defense was the goat for a couple years.  Yet it was turned around immediately.  We had the soft stigma and were ripped apart.  Other than the BYU game (AGAIN) our defense was the only reason we managed to make a bowl game.  Our offense was the worst its been in years.

Other than often mentioned Teddy what else does Watson have to claim to fame?

Last year was all about the players not getting it whether its Swoopes or Heard.  All of it was on the players not the coach.  Maybe its true some players develop faster than others.  Maybe Mahommes was one that got it.  But to say Watson has proven himself is rather presumptuous at best.  So many factors played into it such as OL devastation etc.  I am just wondering if are we all going to be talking Swoopes undeveloped potential when hes a Senior.  Its seems ridiculous to me.  If that is to happen then Watson needs to be evaluated since he is responsible for both Swoopes and Heards development.

IMO:

Watson: Not impressed and if we have another horrible offense next year then change is probably coming. He wasnt even Strong's first choice if I remember correctly, the Clemson OC was.  The recruits love him so I am still hopeful.  This year will say volumes for him.

Wickline: I was excited when we got him.  I always thought OSU OL were beast.  As a recruiter I am disappointed.

Strong and Bedford:  Greatness is in the making.  Love them both.  They need a couple more years, but their impact on the defense is undeniable. 

I know people like to blast Duke in a Monarch type of way.  Just because his opinions are unpopular and doesnt tow the homer line doesnt mean he is wrong.  Some of his points are valid although his delivery is rash.  Its not the typical Rose colored glasses that most have.  

I believe some of you on this very thread bashing Duke were also blasting Swoopes and Watson during the TCU game thread.  Maybe Im wrong but my memory isnt as good as it used to be.  The TCU game thread may shed some light on that subject.  

We are all fans of our beloved horns.  No need to jump on the Monarch  bashing bandwagon towards fellow fans just because its an unpopular non PC view.  

 
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I'm willing to give watson this year before I blow my top but I think if the offense starts to sputter early on you're going to see him going back to being just the QB coach and someone like Norvell take the reigns.

 
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