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This reminds me of Barry Switzer spying on UT and DKR. After spygate it seems Belicheat is a cheating addict.
Belichick Caught Cheating Again
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Matt Cotcher
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I'm trying to care about this deflated football story, but I can't. There are too many logical reasons for it to be a non-factor.
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I agree Matt... The deflated balls could have factored into the success of the Patriots, but it was certainly not a deciding factor. Players from BOTH teams have admitted that no matter the state of the football the Pats' would have won.
If the game was 21-20 then maybe some severe actions should be taken, but I mean 45-7? that's not even almost close.
If the game was 21-20 then maybe some severe actions should be taken, but I mean 45-7? that's not even almost close.
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Agree that the deflated balls were not a factor at all in the outcome.
But I don't understand why the balls aren't the same for both teams.
But I don't understand why the balls aren't the same for both teams.
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Nobody cares that they are just deflated footballs and I dont believe they changed the outcome of the game. Its the fact that once again the Patriots have been caught cheating and the perception is that the NFL will once again slap them on the wrists and destroy the evidence. You say so what its just a deflated ball and I a say well the rules are pretty clear about the football pressure and tampering with the balls once they have been approved by the refs and its obvious that the Patriots tampered with the balls.
The NFL already has an image problem and it will only get worse if they keep letting teams like the Patriots cheat and skirt the rules. Just my humble opinion my friends!
The NFL already has an image problem and it will only get worse if they keep letting teams like the Patriots cheat and skirt the rules. Just my humble opinion my friends!
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If you isolate this strictly to this game and if this would have changed the outcome of the game, then this is not a big deal. The Patriots were the better team and the deflated football was not the reason the Patriots won.
However, when you include spygate and the belief of other NFL teams that they got off lightly because Kraft is the NFL's most powerful owner and good buds with Roger then this becomes a bigger deal. Goodell destroyed all the evidence of spygate which most NFL people believe that Belichick's cheating was more intensive.
Michael Rosenberg has a SI article on what other teams think of the Patriots and Bellichick's cheating. I would post it if my program would allow me. I believe it's really bad for the best coach in the NFL to be a chronic cheater, it places pressure on other coaches to cheat to survive. The Patriots will probably blame the equipment manager just as USC did when Lane Kiffen was caught.
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I'll play devil's advocate:
1. If it made a difference then the referees (who handle a ball before every play) and the Colts had an entire game to notice and speak up...neither of which happened.
2. I read that 11 of 12 balls registered the exact same psi reading. It's possible that the gauge the Patriots used was calibrated slightly differently than what the league used. Even 2 different people that use the same tire gauge could get a different reading.
There are too many people that want to believe New England cheated. There aren't enough facts that they did.
(For the record, I don't care either way.)
Fellows, I play cards, in tournaments, when I have the time. I have shuffled and dealt enough hands that I can tell when a deck is short one card, and that is when I am holding the entire deck. If the footballs were deflated enough to impact play, surely one of the players handling the ball would have said something to a coach or an official. I'm just an amateur. These guys are pros.
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I had read that the only ball that wasn't deflated was the Kicking Ball... the only ball that a player would want fully inflated (cheating bastards...) There's a great video of Jerome Bettis squeezing the differently inflated balls and you can clearly see a difference.
Also... the only reason this was reported was because after a Colts INT the defender brought the ball to the Colts equipment manager to check what was wrong with the ball.
....not that I or anyone else really cares, but hey!... "You ain't cheatin'... you ain't trying"
Well each time there is a change of possession, they change to the balls the offense has brought with them.
So its unlikely a defender will handle or hold the opposing offenses footballs much.unless they get a turnover.
And in addition, the kicking balls are also different.
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