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The precedent it would set leaves us little cockroaches quaking in our boots at what awaits private, Christian institutions in the future of P5 football.
And JB, I know you don't care. 😎
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And JB, I know you don't care. 😎
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Well, as long as TCU continues to act with Christian values...unlike BU....you guys will be alright😎
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Oh, but I care a little bit.
I've found TcU fans to be the most aggy-like. Combine that with your convenient location and you've become a valued adversary. Why would I want to lose that budding rivalry?
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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article113790338.html
NCAA absolves Baylor (dunked, not sprinkled)
NCAA absolves Baylor (dunked, not sprinkled)
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Baylor's Kendal Briles, NCAA discuss recruiting infractions
http://cdn.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/18019001/kendal-briles-baylor-bears-ncaa-discuss-recruiting-violations
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2016/11/10/report-baylor-face-ncaa-recruiting-violation
http://cdn.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/18019001/kendal-briles-baylor-bears-ncaa-discuss-recruiting-violations
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2016/11/10/report-baylor-face-ncaa-recruiting-violation
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26 pages on Baylor vs 22 pages on aggy...who'd have thought?
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This just scrolled along the bottom of the screen of the Texas game on FoxSports1, verbatim:
Former Baylor head coach Art Briles, former AD Ian McCraw failed to report woman's claim she was sexually assaulted by five players in April 2013, university officials tell the Dallas Morning News; Briles was let go by school in May, with McCraw announcing his resignation four days later.
Looks like the 'come to Jesus' meeting by Baylor dignitaries has resulted in the decision to begin to release the information that they have all been holding back for so long. Bottom line, Briles has been lying to the public.
Former Baylor head coach Art Briles, former AD Ian McCraw failed to report woman's claim she was sexually assaulted by five players in April 2013, university officials tell the Dallas Morning News; Briles was let go by school in May, with McCraw announcing his resignation four days later.
Looks like the 'come to Jesus' meeting by Baylor dignitaries has resulted in the decision to begin to release the information that they have all been holding back for so long. Bottom line, Briles has been lying to the public.
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I am waiting for the rebuttal tweets from the baylor asst coaching douchebags who were part of this entire fiasco. Worthless human beings.
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The news that broke today either proves they are clueless or they still don't care about the allegations.
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http://deadspin.com/baylor-confirms-art-briles-knew-about-alleged-gang-rape-1788902498?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Again I'll state, the SOB should never be allowed on any school property let alone be a coach at one and Baylor should be ashamed, real ashamed.
Again I'll state, the SOB should never be allowed on any school property let alone be a coach at one and Baylor should be ashamed, real ashamed.
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I heard of this lady that went to great strides to blame everybody else for what she and her associates said in their e-mails after they were leaked.
The one thing nobody seems to ask her point blank is this: Do you realize there would be nobody you or your friends would need to demonize if you hadn't said what you said in your e-mails?
So I will ask Art Briles: Do you realize there would be nobody you would need to sue if you wouldn't have allowed players to continue to be part of your program AFTER you were informed that they had been accused of gang rape?
This thing is going to get very ugly in the discovery phase. If BU had some regents and administration that were part of this cover up it might be time to cut ties. My bet is Briles believes BU doesn't have the stomach to withstand any more revelations about the program that was in place. Unless he proves that there was a sizable conspiracy against him I don't see how this clears his name. However, I will keep an open mind.
The one thing nobody seems to ask her point blank is this: Do you realize there would be nobody you or your friends would need to demonize if you hadn't said what you said in your e-mails?
So I will ask Art Briles: Do you realize there would be nobody you would need to sue if you wouldn't have allowed players to continue to be part of your program AFTER you were informed that they had been accused of gang rape?
This thing is going to get very ugly in the discovery phase. If BU had some regents and administration that were part of this cover up it might be time to cut ties. My bet is Briles believes BU doesn't have the stomach to withstand any more revelations about the program that was in place. Unless he proves that there was a sizable conspiracy against him I don't see how this clears his name. However, I will keep an open mind.
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Well, me? lol
Back in the day, before there were such things as selfies and before the advent of the cell telephone, I had my picture taken with Hershell Walker by a person standing nearby. I also had him do the same when I met with Roger Staubach and also Sen. Lloyd Bentsen. Journalists always have a camera.
I still have them and they are sentimental to me. Full disclosure, the Hershell Walker picture was taken when I was not on the job. We actually worked out together in a gym along with Jim Jeffcoat and Todd Fowler.
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Wow, just wow. The Big 12 wants to be associated with this???
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/baylor/2017/01/27/new-baylor-lawsuit-describes-show-em-good-time-culture-cites-52-rapes-football-players-4-years?_ga=1.192442089.2128683635.1485557103
New Baylor lawsuit alleges 52 rapes by football players in 4 years, 'show 'em a good time' culture
A Baylor University graduate who says she was raped by football players in 2013 sued the university Friday. Her lawsuit includes an allegation that 31 Baylor football players committed 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 -- an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.
The woman, identified in the suit as Elizabeth Doe, reports being brutally gang raped by then-Baylor football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman after a party on April 18, 2013.
Those football players were previously named as suspects in a police report about a rape on that date, but were never charged.
The woman, who graduated from Baylor in 2014, has sued Baylor for Title IX violations and negligence.
A Baylor spokeswoman declined to comment Friday.
One of the woman's attackers -- Chatman -- was accused of rape once before, the suits alleges, but the university failed to intervene. In that case, the suit says, a student athletic trainer reported that Chatman raped her at his off-campus apartment, so the university moved the trainer to a female sports team and agreed to pay for her education in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement.
The lawsuit describes a culture of sexual violence within Baylor's athletics, in which the school implemented a "show 'em a good time" policy that "used sex to sell" the football program to recruits.
Former assistant coach Kendal Briles once told a Dallas area student athlete, "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players," according to the suit.
Investigation by lawyers identified at least 52 "acts of rape," including five gang rapes, by 31 football players from 2011 to 2014. At least two of the gang rapes were committed by 10 or more players at one time, the suit states.
This contrasts with figures Baylor officials have provided after the Pennsylvania-based law firm Pepper Hamilton conducted an investigation into how the university handled sexual assault. Regents told The Wall Street Journal in October that they were aware of 17 women who reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011.
Tonya Lewis, the Baylor spokeswoman, declined to respond to specific questions about Baylor's knowledge of the prior sexual assault allegedly in the suit, the scope of the Pepper Hamilton investigation or whether the university stands by the numbers it originally provided.
Doe applied to Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, because of its Christian-centered approach to education. She enrolled in 2010, with the intention to pursue a degree in medicine, and in 2012, joined the Baylor Bruins, a group that hosts prospective athletes during visits, the suit states.
On April 18, 2013, according to the lawsuit, Doe attended a party at the home of former Baylor defensive end Shawn Oakman, who has since been charged with sexual assault in an unrelated incident.
Doe became intoxicated at the party and apparently returned home with Armstead and Chatman. When her roommate's boyfriend arrived later that night, the suit says, he heard "what sounded like wrestling and a fist hitting someone," a loud bang and a woman saying "no."
When the boyfriend asked if everything was OK, one of the men inside yelled that Doe "was fine." Armstead and Chatman then emerged from the room, and the boyfriend saw Doe partially unclothed on the floor. The woman had a bruise on her cheek and a bite mark on her neck, according to the suit.
Before police arrived, a fellow Baylor Bruin came over -- apparently already aware of what happened -- and instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the suit alleges. It cites a Title IX investigation into the incident, which later showed that Chatman had called the Bruin and given her the "assignment."
John Clune, the Colorado attorney who represents Doe, said his team had been working with Baylor and appreciated their efforts to fix the problem.
But, he said, "as hard as the events at Baylor have been for people to hear, what went on there was much worse than has been reported. We do still appreciate the progress that Baylor has made and know that the school will be a better place when this case is over."
This story is being updated.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/baylor/2017/01/27/new-baylor-lawsuit-describes-show-em-good-time-culture-cites-52-rapes-football-players-4-years?_ga=1.192442089.2128683635.1485557103
New Baylor lawsuit alleges 52 rapes by football players in 4 years, 'show 'em a good time' culture
A Baylor University graduate who says she was raped by football players in 2013 sued the university Friday. Her lawsuit includes an allegation that 31 Baylor football players committed 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 -- an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.
The woman, identified in the suit as Elizabeth Doe, reports being brutally gang raped by then-Baylor football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman after a party on April 18, 2013.
Those football players were previously named as suspects in a police report about a rape on that date, but were never charged.
The woman, who graduated from Baylor in 2014, has sued Baylor for Title IX violations and negligence.
A Baylor spokeswoman declined to comment Friday.
One of the woman's attackers -- Chatman -- was accused of rape once before, the suits alleges, but the university failed to intervene. In that case, the suit says, a student athletic trainer reported that Chatman raped her at his off-campus apartment, so the university moved the trainer to a female sports team and agreed to pay for her education in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement.
The lawsuit describes a culture of sexual violence within Baylor's athletics, in which the school implemented a "show 'em a good time" policy that "used sex to sell" the football program to recruits.
Former assistant coach Kendal Briles once told a Dallas area student athlete, "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players," according to the suit.
Investigation by lawyers identified at least 52 "acts of rape," including five gang rapes, by 31 football players from 2011 to 2014. At least two of the gang rapes were committed by 10 or more players at one time, the suit states.
This contrasts with figures Baylor officials have provided after the Pennsylvania-based law firm Pepper Hamilton conducted an investigation into how the university handled sexual assault. Regents told The Wall Street Journal in October that they were aware of 17 women who reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011.
Tonya Lewis, the Baylor spokeswoman, declined to respond to specific questions about Baylor's knowledge of the prior sexual assault allegedly in the suit, the scope of the Pepper Hamilton investigation or whether the university stands by the numbers it originally provided.
Doe applied to Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, because of its Christian-centered approach to education. She enrolled in 2010, with the intention to pursue a degree in medicine, and in 2012, joined the Baylor Bruins, a group that hosts prospective athletes during visits, the suit states.
On April 18, 2013, according to the lawsuit, Doe attended a party at the home of former Baylor defensive end Shawn Oakman, who has since been charged with sexual assault in an unrelated incident.
Doe became intoxicated at the party and apparently returned home with Armstead and Chatman. When her roommate's boyfriend arrived later that night, the suit says, he heard "what sounded like wrestling and a fist hitting someone," a loud bang and a woman saying "no."
When the boyfriend asked if everything was OK, one of the men inside yelled that Doe "was fine." Armstead and Chatman then emerged from the room, and the boyfriend saw Doe partially unclothed on the floor. The woman had a bruise on her cheek and a bite mark on her neck, according to the suit.
Before police arrived, a fellow Baylor Bruin came over -- apparently already aware of what happened -- and instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the suit alleges. It cites a Title IX investigation into the incident, which later showed that Chatman had called the Bruin and given her the "assignment."
John Clune, the Colorado attorney who represents Doe, said his team had been working with Baylor and appreciated their efforts to fix the problem.
But, he said, "as hard as the events at Baylor have been for people to hear, what went on there was much worse than has been reported. We do still appreciate the progress that Baylor has made and know that the school will be a better place when this case is over."
This story is being updated.
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Ok, now they're employing the term "Death Penalty" regarding Baylor. Wow.
See the link. It wouldn't let me copy all the tweets.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/baylorbears/2017/01/27/national-reaction-baylor-deserves-death-penalty-defending-art-briles-new-lawsuit?f=r
National reaction: Baylor deserves death penalty; no defending Art Briles after new lawsuit
A new lawsuit filed against Baylor and obtained by The Dallas Morning News on Friday alleges that there were at least 52 "acts of rape" by 31 Baylor football players from 2011 to 2014. This included five gang rapes, at least two of which were committed by 10 or more players at one time, according to the lawsuit. These numbers are significantly higher than previously disclosed by Baylor's regents.
Click here to read the full report on the new lawsuit against Baylor.
The news quickly drew voices from around the country calling for the Baylor football program to be shut down amid these new allegations.
Others said the allegations should put to rest any concerns that former head coach Art Briles and his staff were treated unfairly in the aftermath of the scandal the past two years.
See the link. It wouldn't let me copy all the tweets.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/baylorbears/2017/01/27/national-reaction-baylor-deserves-death-penalty-defending-art-briles-new-lawsuit?f=r
National reaction: Baylor deserves death penalty; no defending Art Briles after new lawsuit
A new lawsuit filed against Baylor and obtained by The Dallas Morning News on Friday alleges that there were at least 52 "acts of rape" by 31 Baylor football players from 2011 to 2014. This included five gang rapes, at least two of which were committed by 10 or more players at one time, according to the lawsuit. These numbers are significantly higher than previously disclosed by Baylor's regents.
Click here to read the full report on the new lawsuit against Baylor.
The news quickly drew voices from around the country calling for the Baylor football program to be shut down amid these new allegations.
Others said the allegations should put to rest any concerns that former head coach Art Briles and his staff were treated unfairly in the aftermath of the scandal the past two years.
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