Baylor running thread.

[tejasrulz]

I asked a friend (BU grad, wife's bestfriend's husband) about the reinstatement of Briles since he initially said, "Finally, someone is thinking straight" to an article on a FB newsfeed. I asked him what would he think if his daughter had been involved. His reply,

First of all, regardless of how we feel or think, we cannot predict how another human being is going to turn out. In fact some well respected individuals turn out to be serial killers. Which gets back to Briles. He can't predict what his players are going to do in the future. As such, those who do wrong should be punished. Yet, college coaches have no experience in conducting criminal investigations. Which is why those were turned over to local authorities to investigate. Obviously some were prosecuted others were not. The local authorities should be the ones answering for those who were not. If the board of regents felt the player should not be a Baylor student, they have the ability to make that happen. Obviously that didn't happen. So in essence the one who's taking the most heat is the one who may just have been told it was being handled when it wasn't.

Any man who has a wife, daughter, sister, niece, aunt, mom, any female relative or knows a woman should be appalled at what happened in Waco. Any other reaction is a BS excuse to win games. Are winning games really that more important than LIFE? If you answer yes to that, please take a minute to reflect on your values cause they're #&@*ed up!

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

APNewsBreak: Fired coach Art Briles lambastes Baylor

 

[dillohorn]

Viles and bailor share the bottom of the same septic tank

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

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[Embrey]

It appears Briles believes Baylor would rather pay off a wrongful termination lawsuit than open up the entire report from the law firm.

One question, AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE ALLEGATION ONE MIGHT DRAW FROM THE QUESTION, does anybody wonder if there is a paper trail that leads to Regents and/or BMDs and that is why the report will not be released? I ask this because both Ken Starr and Art Briles have come out of the recent exposure with their names and reputations ruined. Why wouldn't Baylor want to make the report public since they have already served Starr and Briles up for slaughter? Is it crazy to assume that there may be other people whose names and reputations are potentially in danger if the report is released?

 

[Growler]

I absolutely agree Embrey.  Only the most naïve would think that they ALL weren't in the loop and part of the decision making process and selective release of information over the past 18-24 months.  This was too big of an issue.  This is exactly how elected school boards get rid of Administrators and staff when the truth is all parties meet and discuss and make group decisions on tough issues. No doubt at least some of the Regents were in the know and part of the scandal IMO.  Shit rolling downhill.  Problem is everyone is about to get it all over themselves...Regents included.  Too much money at stake.

 

[java]

School administrators are great at shoveling blame onto others. I'm thinking of discipline, in this instance. Kid misbehaves and is sent to office by teacher, teacher calls parents. Rinse and repeat. It's the teacher's fault, of course. Can't be the kid, can't be the parent, can't be the administrator who did absolutely nothing. Nope. Must be the teacher.

I call bullshit.

 

[Embrey]

School administrators are great at shoveling blame onto others. I'm thinking of discipline, in this instance. Kid misbehaves and is sent to office by teacher, teacher calls parents. Rinse and repeat. It's the teacher's fault, of course. Can't be the kid, can't be the parent, can't be the administrator who did absolutely nothing. Nope. Must be the teacher.

I call bullshit.

Who is the kid, teacher, principal and superintendent in this Baylor metaphor?
Unless I am reading it wrong Briles is the kid. AD/Starr are the teacher/principal and the Regents/BMDs are the superintendent?

 

[java]

Not really a metaphor for Baylor, just the way schools are run now. Kids aren't to blame, parents aren't to blame, administrators aren't to blame. There isn't a 'teacher' after you get to college, so now what do you do?

I say hold them accountable when they are young. Their parents, too.

 

[Embrey]

Not really a metaphor for Baylor, just the way schools are run now. Kids aren't to blame, parents aren't to blame, administrators aren't to blame. There isn't a 'teacher' after you get to college, so now what do you do?

I say hold them accountable when they are young. Their parents, too.

I agree with your example (and opinion about who is held accountable) and attempted to use your example as a metaphor for Baylor to try to see if the systems were similar. I bet the administration at a university is not all that different from a local school district once you strip away all the pomp and circumstance of academia, particularly when it comes to passing the buck and crap rolling downhill.

 

[ah-blong]

who knows how seriously we should take this slapfight between briles and baylor?  this may be just a set-up aimed at keeping him from having to pay damages.

after all, if they really are going great knuckles on this, how do buddy-boy and buddy-boy-in-law function on the staff-in-waiting?

i smell big dookie.

 

[Juan]

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[Will Baizer]

Baylor has released Parrish Cobb, Kameron Martin, Patrick Hudson, J.P. Urquidez and Donovan Duvernay from their NLIs.

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All are possibilities to end up Longhorns.

I'd put my money on Donovan Duvernay and Patrick Hudson.

 

[mbhakta315]

How many scholarships do we have available? All 5 have been interested in Texas at one point or another. How would you guys rank them from most likely to least likely?

For me: 

1. Donovan Duvernay

2. Patrick Hudson

3. Parrish Cobb

4. Kameron Martin

5. JP 

 

[Will Baizer]

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[Will Baizer]

How many scholarships do we have available? All 5 have been interested in Texas at one point or another. How would you guys rank them from most likely to least likely?

For me: 

1. Donovan Duvernay

2. Patrick Hudson

3. Parrish Cobb

4. Kameron Martin

5. JP 

81

 

[Sirhornsalot]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/16425546/big-12-asks-baylor-hand-all-documents-related-sexual-assault-investigations

Big 12 asks Baylor for 'all documents' from sexual assault investigations

The Big 12 revealed Wednesday that it has "once again" requested Baylor provide the conference the "full information" related to investigations into sexual assaults at the school.

In a statement, the Big 12 board of directors said it is "gravely and deeply concerned" about reports of how Baylor and its athletic department have handled sexual assault allegations, reports that prompted the termination of football coach Art Briles, the resignation of athletic director Ian McCaw and the demotion of president Kenneth Starr.

"On May 24, 2016, the Big 12 Board requested a full accounting of the circumstances surrounding the sexual assaults at the University," the statement said. "At this time the Board is only privy to information that has been made available to the public."

Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby sent a letter to Baylor interim president David Garland requesting "all documents" from the Pepper Hamilton law firm, which Baylor hired last fall to review the school's response to sexual assault allegations. The Big 12 board is demanding that Baylor give the league "unedited" information, including "any that has been conveyed orally," with only the names of involved students redacted. The Big 12 is also requesting that Baylor provide the conference with all of the school's internal documents pertinent to the investigation.

"All of our member universities consider student safety and security to be paramount among institutional responsibilities," Bowlsby said in the statement. "The Big 12 board of directors, each member of the conference and its student-athletes want to convey that our thoughts, concerns and sympathies are with the Baylor survivors and their families."

The Big 12 added that it needs more information to "facilitate fair competition among its members and compliance to the rules of both the conference and NCAA."

Baylor spokeswoman Tonya Lewis issued a statement that stated Garland received the letter from Bowlsby, and is reviewing the Big 12's request.

"Dr. Garland would like to reiterate that the Findings of Fact fully reflect the themes, core findings and failings identified in the investigation - while omitting the documentation of individual cases and names supporting these findings," the statement read.

 

[Juan]

Baylor still blaming us for their problems

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[ah-blong]

still blaming us for their problems

you know, there's a part of me that wishes that were true.  it's a part of me that i really like.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

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