A question that Mack supporters don't want to answer

[edw339]

Most people have circled this game as the most difficult game of our season, maybe outside of the mental block usually associated with OU. We have only lost this year in blowout fashion. Therefore, I would think most would expect a blowout and be somewhat relieved by anything other than a blowout loss. In other words, I don't think that one more blowout loss this season is the difference between Mack being remembered fondly or not. He is perceived by some as lucky for having achieved what he has and otherwise not a very remarkable coach. He is perceived by others as a once great coach who is past his prime currently, but who deserves to be recognized as elite within the context of UT history. This is the group in which I fall. I believe he did the right thing in trying to bring us back. Only someone with a loser mentality would have quit at the first sign of trouble. I would expect him to have made an effort to rebuild. I don't feel like he wronged anyone in that effort. It may turn out that it doesn't work, but I admire the grit involved with the effort especially considering he would have to put himself on national display in the process. He risks being exposed as a has been at best. He bet on himself and I can dig that. (I recognize that doesn't encapsulate the entire fanbase, but those seem to be the two most populated camps)

In the minds of either group, this game will not be the deciding factor. There is too much history to point to that justifies the opinions. Look, I get that the ags are doing better than they have in the past and our recruiting appears to be down and that the fear is that we will fall into some dark hole of irrelevancy never to be heard from again. I just don't subscribe to that fear. We are, by God, The University of Texas, and when we decide this experiment has gone on long enough and its time to climb the hill again, I know the world will snap back on to its axis and we will retake our spot at the top.

 

[POCKEY]

With all of this, "...Mack doesn't want to make this about himself..." "...he wants the focus on the players..." "...he's telling the recruits that he's coming back..." and "...he wants to meet with the new AD..."
No one, not the (OB) mods or anyone else has a good answer to this question.

What happens if we get blown out by Baylor, okie state style?[/

 

Mack could've lit a fire under his team, used all of the good will he's built and gone out in style, win or lose but if his team gets blown off the field next Saturday, all those words about the players and focus and all of that good will goes right down the tubes. Would there by any good will left to even give him a lift out of town?

 

If this happens and THEN he resigns, how does that make him and his legacy look?

 

Hook'em!

 

Most people have circled this game as the most difficult game of our season, maybe outside of the mental block usually associated with OU. We have only lost this year in blowout fashion. Therefore, I would think most would expect a blowout and be somewhat relieved by anything other than a blowout loss. In other words, I don't think that one more blowout loss this season is the difference between Mack being remembered fondly or not. He is perceived by some as lucky for having achieved what he has and otherwise not a very remarkable coach. He is perceived by others as a once great coach who is past his prime currently, but who deserves to be recognized as elite within the context of UT history. This is the group in which I fall. I believe he did the right thing in trying to bring us back. Only someone with a loser mentality would have quit at the first sign of trouble. I would expect him to have made an effort to rebuild. I don't feel like he wronged anyone in that effort. It may turn out that it doesn't work, but I admire the grit involved with the effort especially considering he would have to put himself on national display in the process. He risks being exposed as a has been at best. He bet on himself and I can dig that. (I recognize that doesn't encapsulate the entire fanbase, but those seem to be the two most populated camps) In the minds of either group, this game will not be the deciding factor. There is too much history to point to that justifies the opinions. Look, I get that the ags are doing better than they have in the past and our recruiting appears to be down and that the fear is that we will fall into some dark hole of irrelevancy never to be heard from again. I just don't subscribe to that fear. We are, by God, The University of Texas, and when we decide this experiment has gone on long enough and its time to climb the hill again, I know the world will snap back on to its axis and we will retake our spot at the top.

 

Maybe the best post I've read on this board, or for that matter, any board this year.

 

I will add, for those that will so vehemently disagree, I also trust Patterson to get it right finding the right fit for Mack's replacement. I will also go so far as saying, if it turns out to be true that Mack helps in any way in that process, I have no problem with that.

 

[sshorn]

The sad thing is there are people who DO hate Mack and are spewing nonsense based only on that hatred. People on other boards saying the entire staff "hates Mack" is ludicrous, saying he's being selfish is dumb as well. he has stayed too long but it's not out of spite and greed. He truly wanted to get Texas back to the top.

I think hooked76 has it spot on!

Also, I don't think the outcome of the Baylor game affects what happens one single bit. Either Mack ends up resigning, ends up being forced out, or is back -- I don't really think one game plays that big of a role. One season? Yes. One game? Nope.

 

[doc longhorn]

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

I'm not a Mack Brown "hater", I'm certain I would like Mack, should I meet him. But I firmly believe he must go and new blood must be inserted.

If you want Mack to stay I would be most interested as to why you think he should stay. Can you be objective? I am seriously interested in learning why you are so vociferous in defending Mack's coaching ability.

 

[sshorn]

I'm not a Mack Brown "hater", I'm certain I would like Mack, should I meet him. But I firmly believe he must go and new blood must be inserted.
If you want Mack to stay I would be most interested as to why you think he should stay. Can you be objective? I am seriously interested in learning why you are so vociferous in defending Mack's coaching ability.

I think it is time for new blood, so I'm not in a "camp" that wants him to stay. But I also think the venom spewed by "internet fans" (and other fans, for that matter) is just silly. You can want a new coach without completely ripping the current one, who has done some good things at our university, but who has let the program go stale (which usually happens when a coach lasts as long as MB has at UT). Just my thoughts ...

 

[beevomav]

It just doesn't matter what we think, decisions well be made way above any of our pay grades. Despite what some may think, I am not a fan of Mack Brown, but there is a case to be made to bring him back. Playing devils advocate, one might say Texas is just a few years removed from playing in a BCS Championship game.

I have been in the camp that believes Mack will be back. I don't fault anyone for believing he is gone. What I do fault is some here telling me I am old, a troll and out of touch for what I believe.

 

[Darrell McPhaul]

I can't think of any case in which Mack Brown should be brought back?

 

[Lord Vader]

I can't think of any case in which Mack Brown should be brought back?

Not of the same magnitude, but I dont know anyone who could make a case to bring back Rick Barnes after last year (Other than DeLoss's laziness) and they did it anyway. This is quite a circus.

 

[seahawkhorn]

I can't think of any case in which Mack Brown should be brought back?

Nope, unless a few ass kicking's a year are going to be the standard at UT and a conference crown every 5-8 years

 

[bcherry168]

UTFish this isn't Orangebloods. You might want to go back quickly instead of being on attack mode over here.

The original post was more like what I used to see on OB, and why I quit that board.

 

[Hoekem]

The original post was more like what I used to see on OB, and why I quit that board.

You and me both...I will never understand adults using "grade school" insults