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HookemDTX

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Lotushorn posted this yesterday.

It's up to Mack to resign, which they hear he is leaning towards.

Saban is leaning towards Texas. He wants to bring Matt Campbell with him from Toledo (their HC) as OC since he believes his OC will be a HC. Campbell is one of those coaches that no one knows of but is in his 30s and considered by NFL administrations as the real deal in terms of coaching (and he won a Rivals best recruiter in the MAC award).

If Saban changes his mind, Harbaugh WANTS the job, but it's John not Jim that dearly hopes to get a shot at it.

 
Here is a little about his background.

I've worked for the Oilers, Titans, Dolphins, then worked a consulting gig with colleges for athletes thinking about going pro, to my job now where I offer consultation to different NFL teams.

A good friend of mine is represented by Sexton. He called Sexton to see if he should put his hat in the race, and get his opinion on how many people would be interested in the job, if it becomes available. He wants the job badly. He played here, bleeds burnt orange, and is currently having his name mentioned for some NFL HC interviews. His lack of HC experience will likely cost him.

I figure both Harbaugh brothers will be interested, because Texas will be interested in Jim. John will be interested for himself. If Texas comes knocking on Jim's door he will listen, anyone would (at least you may get a raise just from showing interest).

 
I've got to believe this happens. There is too much smoke that would not be there for any other coach BUT Saban.

 
John Harbaugh wouldn't hurt my feelings in the TINIEST bit as a "fallback" option.

 
John Harbaugh is a pretty intriguing name that keeps popping up.

He would be quite a site on the UT sideline.

 
John Harbaugh is a pretty intriguing name that keeps popping up. He would be quite a site on the UT sideline.
Agreed. I like John more than Jim as far as the Harbaugh's go.

 
If I had to choose between Saban and John Harbaugh I might lean towards Harbaugh. His age and success at the NFL level are second to none. And his biggest question mark would be recruiting, but he has a pretty good resource in his brother to help him get that worked out.

To me, I'll ALWAYS choose a coach who has been successful in the NFL over a guy who has only had college success. Saban makes the idea more complicated, but think about it this way. In the NFL, more often than not the teams on the field are relatively equal in talent. Every player on the field is a certified badass. Coaching plays a MUCH greater role in determining the winners and losers in the NFL than in college. In college, talent might be comparable 2-3 times a season between teams. In the NFL, you might have more talent than your opponent 2-3 times total. Consider that Harbaugh has won a Super Bowl, there's absolutely no argument to the question on whether or not he can coach.

Think about this. Before Pete Carroll got his second shot and Jim Harbaugh took over the 49ers, the good to great college coaches who went to the NFL were flame outs. Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, Mike Riley, Dennis Erickson just to name a few. And three of those coaches won national titles before taking on the NFL. There are a LOT more guys who have had success coming from the NFL to college than vice versa.

The best thing about Harbaugh is that he's a players coach. I can remember a number of articles last year about Baltimore's run where they talked about how the team was struggling and Harbaugh got his veterans like Lewis and Reed together to figure out what needed to be changed. They said part of it was him. He took the criticism and changed himself and ended up making a run straight to the title. That's the kind of thing that you want to see from a guy with NFL ties coming to college. With the right staff around him of guys with strong recruiting backgrounds he could be a homerun.

One last thought. The most difficult thing about the NFL is the competitive balance structure in the league. Between the salary cap and draft it's nearly impossible to completely load up on talent. You don't have those kinds of issues in college. The only limitation is the 25-85 scholarship rule. But if you can be like Saban and sign top ranked classes every year you can enter just about every game you play with the talent advantage. And couple the talent advantage with the fact that Harbaugh or anyone from the NFL would more than likely be the best coach on the field each week and you have a recipe for domination.

 
If I had to choose between Saban and John Harbaugh I might lean towards Harbaugh. His age and success at the NFL level are second to none. And his biggest question mark would be recruiting, but he has a pretty good resource in his brother to help him get that worked out.
To me, I'll ALWAYS choose a coach who has been successful in the NFL over a guy who has only had college success. Saban makes the idea more complicated, but think about it this way. In the NFL, more often than not the teams on the field are relatively equal in talent. Every player on the field is a certified badass. Coaching plays a MUCH greater role in determining the winners and losers in the NFL than in college. In college, talent might be comparable 2-3 times a season between teams. In the NFL, you might have more talent than your opponent 2-3 times total. Consider that Harbaugh has won a Super Bowl, there's absolutely no argument to the question on whether or not he can coach.

Think about this. Before Pete Carroll got his second shot and Jim Harbaugh took over the 49ers, the good to great college coaches who went to the NFL were flame outs. Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, Mike Riley, Dennis Erickson just to name a few. And three of those coaches won national titles before taking on the NFL. There are a LOT more guys who have had success coming from the NFL to college than vice versa.

The best thing about Harbaugh is that he's a players coach. I can remember a number of articles last year about Baltimore's run where they talked about how the team was struggling and Harbaugh got his veterans like Lewis and Reed together to figure out what needed to be changed. They said part of it was him. He took the criticism and changed himself and ended up making a run straight to the title. That's the kind of thing that you want to see from a guy with NFL ties coming to college. With the right staff around him of guys with strong recruiting backgrounds he could be a homerun.

One last thought. The most difficult thing about the NFL is the competitive balance structure in the league. Between the salary cap and draft it's nearly impossible to completely load up on talent. You don't have those kinds of issues in college. The only limitation is the 25-85 scholarship rule. But if you can be like Saban and sign top ranked classes every year you can enter just about every game you play with the talent advantage. And couple the talent advantage with the fact that Harbaugh or anyone from the NFL would more than likely be the best coach on the field each week and you have a recipe for domination.


Either Harbaugh would be a home run

 
If the Campbell thing is true, sounds like a "grooming" from Saban for Campbell to take over?

Let's be honest--at 62, Saban ain't coaching for THAT much longer. I'd still take him everyday and thrice on Sundays over Mack though.

Hell I'd take the coach of a random middle school from The Valley over Mack right now.

 
If the Campbell thing is true, sounds like a "grooming" from Saban for Campbell to take over?
Let's be honest--at 62, Saban ain't coaching for THAT much longer. I'd still take him everyday and thrice on Sundays over Mack though.

Hell I'd take the coach of a random middle school from The Valley over Mack right now.
Wouldn't bother me. He comes from a super successful D3 program and has been successful everywhere he's been. His offensive numbers in the MAC have been very good too. I don't know if Texas is going to hire from within, but if Saban comes in and turns things around like he did at 'Bama I don't think there's a whole lot to lose. I think if Saban comes and Smart replaces him there we would watch to see how he does. If he does well I could see us hiring who Saban wants. If not, then we might look outside the box.

I think Saban has a maximum of 5-7 years left of top flight coaching.

 
John Harbaugh wouldn't hurt my feelings in the TINIEST bit as a "fallback" option.
You mean we would have to settle for the super bowl winning coach? It's tough being a Longhorn.

 
Everything is sounding good about the coaches, now if Powers would do his job.........then things in life will be back on track. :)

 
Campbell fits with the rumors that Saban would be looking for a spread guy to run the offense if he came here too.

Couple him with Pat Narduzzi and I think we have something going. This would also fit the rumors that Saban would have big $$$ to go out and hire top assistants for the long haul. Generally MAC coaches move into BCS HC jobs, not BCS coordinator jobs, but if the money being allotted to the new coach is true, it might work out for him. We will see.

 
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