2024 Recruiting Board/Thread

[Sirhornsalot]

We always have this infatuation with every new QB signing. We did it with Ewers, Murphy, Manning and now Owens. Only VY and McCoy have lived up to the hype fellas in the last 2 decades. VY hands down my all favorite and probably always will be

McCoy had no hype. He was a little known 3-star out of small school Tuscola Jim Ned.

VY had some hype, but he also had plenty of skeptics because of his awkward (at the time) throwing motion.

Ewers was worth the hype. We're in good hands under him. Murphy, idk, maybe the moment was just too big for him? He did fine in the first half and then the wheels fell off. Manning is yet to be determined.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

We always have this infatuation with every new QB signing. We did it with Ewers, Murphy, Manning and now Owens. Only VY and McCoy have lived up to the hype fellas in the last 2 decades. VY hands down my all favorite and probably always will be

It's the most important position in sports. As the qb goes, so does the team. All fan bases do it.

 

[DMAC]

McCoy had no hype. He was a little known 3-star out of small school Tuscola Jim Ned.

VY had some hype, but he also had plenty of skeptics because of his awkward (at the time) throwing motion.

Ewers was worth the hype. We're in good hands under him. Murphy, idk, maybe the moment was just too big for him? He did fine in the first half and then the wheels fell off. Manning is yet to be determined.

Dont compare Ewers to VY. Its not even close. Both were 1.0000 on the rating scale coming out of HS. The highest rated.

Ewers isnt even close to being that good. Its not even a debate really.

 

[DMAC]

It's the most important position in sports. As the qb goes, so does the team. All fan bases do it.

Well its been 2 decades since the last fan QB hype was worth a shit. Even Ewers while he is pretty good hasnt lived to the hype as being the highest rated QB since VY. Yea he has had some great games and some really shitty ones too.

Trey Owens maybe hes another Andrew Luck, we will see but I aint holding my breath.

 

[dssl]

Dont compare Ewers to VY. Its not even close. Both were 1.0000 on the rating scale coming out of HS. The highest rated.

Ewers isnt even close to being that good. Its not even a debate really.

All of these comparisons of QBs from recruits to current players to lifetime Longhorn legacies is silly. The only fair comparisons are after their Longhorn careers are done.

People who minimize Arch's potential think they know more then Sark and all of the experts.

At this point it feels like Ewers is the most important part of the team, but with VY it felt like he carried the team on his shoulders. So for Ewers to be reasonably compared he would not only need to win 4 more games this year, and a national championship next year, but also be viewed as carrying the team on his shoulders, which I don't think is consistent with the way Sark runs the offense.

 

[DMAC]

All of these comparisons of QBs from recruits to current players to lifetime Longhorn legacies is silly. The only fair comparisons are after their Longhorn careers are done.

By your own point so is claiming Owens will be better than Manning. Neither of them have even taken one snap at UT. So which is sillier bud? BTW if Ewers does leave for the draft then I am able to compare VY and Ewers? Dont make me spew my beer again please. Ewers career may be 3-4 more games so yea I can compare

 

[dssl]

By your own point so is claiming Owens will be better than Manning. Neither of them have even taken one snap at UT. So which is sillier bud? BTW if Ewers does leave for the draft then I am able to compare VY and Ewers? Dont make me spew my beer again please. Ewers career may be 3-4 more games so yea I can compare

At this point most believe Ewers will be back next year. Obviously if he leaves this year, then YY would easily win any comparisons.

As far as Manning is concerned, sure it's not fair to make any comparisons, but it's also silly to discount his potential.

Now get a hold of yourself, and clean up that beer spew mess.

 

[DMAC]

At this point most believe Ewers will be back next year. Obviously if he leaves this year, then YY would easily win any comparisons.

As far as Manning is concerned, sure it's not fair to make any comparisons, but it's also silly to discount his potential.

Now get a hold of yourself, and clean up that beer spew mess.

I never discounted anyone's potential but there is NO DOUBT Ewers cant even hold a candle to VY......anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

VY single handily would convert a 4th and 30 without even trying. Ewers can barely make a hitch route at times. I have seen some of the most inaccurate passes from him and then some dimes as well. Just stop with the nonsense already. FFS.

How many people hold their breath when its 3rd and 15 with Ewers? I do. VY I never had a doubt after watching him take over a game and make defenders look slow. I like Ewers and he has done a decent job but MM made us appreciate Ewers even more. We need Ewers but only because we have no other experience.

It always appear the opposing QB is better than Ewers though, well except Milrose at Bama at the time. I cant be the only one that thinks that. Not trying to disrespect Ewers but I just dont have that confidence in him. If he could consistently play like he did Bama then I would but he has not. He throws absolute ducks, behind targets, over throws, consistently under throws even short passes. Hes better than MM right now but that isnt saying much. Ewers is about average to me. He has a good OL, J. Sanders, Worthy, AD, and a good defense(at times) and still he is meh at best. Hell we dont even trust him on 4th downs LOL. Definitely has not lived up to the hype I had for him. Maybe next year if he comes back

As for Manning yea I hope he lives up to hype as well. I dont see Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State beating down Trye Owens door. Yea the kid has the size and he plays very well but all I said is I am not holding my breath he will be better than Manning out of HS. Why? Well neither have taken one snap at Texas LOL

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I never discounted anyone's potential but there is NO DOUBT Ewers cant even hold a candle to VY......anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

VY single handily would convert a 4th and 30 without even trying. Ewers can barely make 1 out of 3, 10 yard hitch routes. I have seen some of the most inaccurate passes from him and then some dimes as well. Just stop with the nonsense already. FFS.

How many people hold their breath when its 3rd and 15 with Ewers? I do. VY I never had a doubt after watching him take over a game and make defenders look slow. I like Ewers and he has done a decent job but MM made us appreciate Ewers even more. We need Ewers but only because we have no other experience.

It always appear the opposing QB is better than Ewers though, well except Milrose at Bama at the time. I cant be the only one that thinks that. Not trying to disrespect Ewers but I just dont have that confidence in him. If he could consistently play like he did Bama then I would but he has not. He throws absolute ducks, behind targets, over throws, consistently under throws even short passes. Hes better than MM right now but that isnt saying much. Ewers is about average to me. He has a great OL and good backs and a good defense(at times) and still he is meh at best. Definitely has not lived up to the hype I had for him. Maybe next year if he comes back

As for Manning yea I hope he lives up to hype as well. I dont see Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State beating down Trye Owens door. Yea the kid has the size and he plays very well but all I said is I am not holding my breath he will be better than Manning out of HS. Why? Well neither have taken one snap at Texas LOL

I don't know who would have said Owens is better than Manning. We don't know squat about Manning or Owens other than what they did in HS. But if Manning is your starter at some point, then Owens would be your back up.
If Manning goes down, it's an opportunity for Owens.

I don't agree with your criticisms of Owens. He verballed to UT really early so became overlooked by ratings services, as is always the case with early commits. But his numbers don't lie.

I'd rather see a commit have great stats than see a post where his stats are lousy, that's for sure. Sark so far has been remarkable with the QBs he has brought in.

You really can't compare VY and Ewers unless you compare each at this same stage of their career. I'll let your memory work with regard to VY's early performances. IMO, they are totally different QBs for the reasons you laid out. For that reason, I don't think you can compare the two at all. Just totally different animals.

I'll give VY this, he went through his career being clean shaven and with a great haircut. lol

 

[DMAC]

I don't know who would have said Owens is better than Manning. We don't know squat about Manning or Owens other than what they did in HS. But if Manning is your starter at some point, then Owens would be your back up.
If Manning goes down, it's an opportunity for Owens.

I don't agree with your criticisms of Owens. He verballed to UT really early so became overlooked by ratings services, as is always the case with early commits. But his numbers don't lie.

I'd rather see a commit have great stats than see a post where his stats are lousy, that's for sure. Sark so far has been remarkable with the QBs he has brought in.

You really can't compare VY and Ewers unless you compare each at this same stage of their career. I'll let your memory work with regard to VY's early performances. IMO, they are totally different QBs for the reasons you laid out. For that reason, I don't think you can compare the two at all. Just totally different animals.

I'll give VY this, he went through his career being clean shaven and with a great haircut. lol

Man, I cant believe you wrote that. Are you saying Ewers is on the same level as VY? You are better than that. FFS. Young accounted for what 9500 yards in 3 years? Won a NC, fkn owns the Rose bowl. OMG, i need to go bed.

Its all good going to to sleep these beers off. Been a rough holiday season so far. Gotta love inflation, my customers sure dont.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Man, I cant believe you wrote that. Are you saying Ewers is on the same level as VY? You are better than that. FFS. Young accounted for what 9500 yards in 3 years? Won a NC, fkn owns the Rose bowl. OMG, i need to go bed.

Its all good going to to sleep these beers off. Been a rough holiday season so far. Gotta love inflation, my customers sure dont.

The problem here seems to be your memory. Do you not remember Mock having to bail out VY that sophomore year? Things were not smooth at first for VY.

I explained what I thought. There's nothing I can add to it.

 

[Drb522]

All of these comparisons of QBs from recruits to current players to lifetime Longhorn legacies is silly. The only fair comparisons are after their Longhorn careers are done.

People who minimize Arch's potential think they know more then Sark and all of the experts.

At this point it feels like Ewers is the most important part of the team, but with VY it felt like he carried the team on his shoulders. So for Ewers to be reasonably compared he would not only need to win 4 more games this year, and a national championship next year, but also be viewed as carrying the team on his shoulders, which I don't think is consistent with the way Sark runs the offense.

Nobody has minimalized anything about Arch. And you said it. Potential. The potential is there, as is the physical attributes. But he and his family ASKED for a redshirt year for a flipping reason. They know he’s a long way from ready for P5 big time football. I compare him to Chris Simms. He had everything coming out of HS, just not necessarily ready between the ears. I believe Simms would’ve led Texas to a NC had he gotten to finish his maturation process. The Mannings are smart to ask that.

 

[DMAC]

The problem here seems to be your memory. Do you not remember Mock having to bail out VY that sophomore year? Things were not smooth at first for VY.

I explained what I thought. There's nothing I can add to it.

Dont drink and post I guess.

My memory is not good at all and I know VY struggled his 1st year as most freshmen QBs do. I do remember him whipping Michigan's ass in the Rose bowl his Sophomore year followed by a NC against a very good USC team his Junior year. He should have won the Heisman that year.

I think Ewers is probably above average at best. We havent had a great QB since McCoy so its been a long time. Ewers has had some terrible games TBF. He is inconsistent. I am rooting for the kid though

 

[Eastexhorn]

Was not VY main competior Mc Neil in high school

 

[BruiseLee]

To be fair, I don't think anyone can be compared to VY unless they win a championship. I wish we recruited more dual threat quarterbacks. It's so much harder to defend against them.

 

[Coot]

To be fair, I don't think anyone can be compared to VY unless they win a championship. I wish we recruited more dual threat quarterbacks. It's so much harder to defend against them.

I just watched that VY video that DMAC posted above. After 20 years it's still amazing how good VY was. I tend to forget over the years. Good times.

 

[tejasrulz]

All of these comparisons of QBs from recruits to current players to lifetime Longhorn legacies is silly. The only fair comparisons are after their Longhorn careers are done.

People who minimize Arch's potential think they know more then Sark and all of the experts.

At this point it feels like Ewers is the most important part of the team, but with VY it felt like he carried the team on his shoulders. So for Ewers to be reasonably compared he would not only need to win 4 more games this year, and a national championship next year, but also be viewed as carrying the team on his shoulders, which I don't think is consistent with the way Sark runs the offense.

The sentence in bold describes the vast majority of this board.

VY is the best college player I've ever seen play, period. Be that said, there were Texas fans who did want him benched or moved to WR in his R-FR year. Texas fans are some of the ficklest fans there are.

 

[Billybass]

VY was a faster Earl Campbell. Not an extremely accurate passer, but that dude could run like a deer and with tremendous power.
Ewers is a complete different type of qb. Not nearly as dominant.
That said, we are lucky to have him, and if we see the jump in performance next year, like we have seen this year, it will be a very special year for us.
Vince won his championship his junior year, maybe Ewers will get his in his junior year.

Things could be a lot worse for us horns fans.

 

[TexCoyote]

Really with QB’s and players in general nobody knows until they get it and see how they develop. Chris Simms was a 5 star, Colt McCoy was a 3 star so you just never know. Colt was a Texas kid that would have ran through a brick wall for the University of Texas. Simms was from New Jersey so maybe the buyin wasn’t as strong. Alot of people can see the raw talent and the tools but how are they going to react when the lights are turned on. That’s what you have to find out. In the day of the portal some aren’t going to stay around long enough to see the lights get turned on.
VY: alot of people hated on Greg Davis but I give him alot of credit by changing his offense to what would maximize VY’s talent. Alot of coaches are hung up so tight on their own offense that they might not have got as much out of VY. It started off they wanted to teach him to be a pocket type passer and when they finally went to the zone read…….the rest is history.
The good thing it seems with Sark is he is always going to be able to get good QB’s.

 

[DMAC]

VY had a long stride and it was very deceptive for defenders to get an angle. IMO he was absolutely the most electric dual threat QB we ever had. He was screwed out of the Heisman. I only wish he had came back his senior year but cant blame him.