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Texas Baseball Coaching Search**Updated with David Pierce Hire**

To make it clearer on what Pierce accomplished at Tulane/Sam Houston State. 

The average RPI of Tulane 6 years prior to Pierce becoming the coach was 95.3. His average RPI in 2 years at Tulane is 41

The average RPI of Sam Houston State 6 years prior to Pierce becoming the coach was 114. His average RPI in 3 years at Sam Houston State was 41.

Ok I'm done on my Pierce rant.
Help me out.

Educate me on what RPI is and why it is significant. 

 
Help me out.

Educate me on what RPI is and why it is significant. 
It's essentially a formula to rate sports teams. Here's a detailed explanation. 

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/rpi_help

RPI for example is one of the main criteria used to determine who makes the NCAA tournament in basketball, baseball, and so on. There's different variations of course like the KPI, Kenpom, and just regular ESPN RPI for basketball.

Generally speaking, it's a guide to determine how good a team is. I simply used it as an example to show what type of coach Pierce is. What he accomplished at Sam Houston State and Tulane is pretty remarkable. The jump in RPI made at both Sam Houston State and Tulane were significant. In all 5 years at both schools he's turned RPI programs that are normally close to 100th in the nation to around 40th. Scheduling has probably had some impact on that, but there's no doubt Pierce is a great coach to see that type of jump. 

 
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Can you expand on this? Is this a typo or did you really mean it as it is here?
I didn't stutter. I've been around a lot of big time people in the game and he is the cockiest most arrogant son of a buck I've ever met.

 
I didn't stutter. I've been around a lot of big time people in the game and he is the cockiest most arrogant son of a buck I've ever met.
That's a subjective opinion.

"Cocky" can also be interpreted as projecting confidence, depending on someone's POV. I just want a HC who can recruit and win. IMO, he doesn't necessarily need to be Mr. Congeniality.

 
I know nothing about the man, but the data seems to back up that Pierce is a great coach. He's a damn good pitching coach too. 

[SIZE=10pt]As Rice’s pitching coach: [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]06: 4th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]07: 10th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]08: 16th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]09: 28th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]10: 24th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]11: 6th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Sam Houston State: [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]‘12: 40th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]’13: 68th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]’14: 17th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Previous 3 years before Pierce (53rd, 192nd, 86th) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Tulane:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]‘15: 35th in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]’16: 22nd in ERA[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Previous 3 years before Pierce (72nd, 53rd, 45th in ERA)[/SIZE]

 
This is why I'm a Pierce fan. 

1-Sam Houston State finished 65 in RPI in '07, 80 in RPI in '08, 70 in RPI in '09, 174 in RPI in '10, 81 in RPI in '11. 

Sam Houston State finished 50 in RPI in '12, 39 in RPI in '13, 34 in RPI in '14. Those 3 years are when Pierce took over. 

2-'09 Tulane 66 in RPI, '10 Tulane 88 in RPI, '11 Tulane 79 RPI, '12 Tulane 63 RPI, '13 Tulane 128 RPI, '14 Tulane 148 RPI. 

'15 Tulane 49 RPI, '16 Tulane 33 RPI. Those two years are when Pierce took over. 

That's two programs in a row Pierce took programs that were regressing (174, 81, 128, and 148 RPI) and turned them into top 50 RPI squads. All 5 years after he took over. 
I don't question his accomplishments, but I personally think Texas is looking for a much bigger fish. 

 
They should consider Dan Heefner from Dallas Baptist. Good coach.....good program.

 
They should consider Dan Heefner from Dallas Baptist. Good coach.....good program.
Heefner is not in the running. He does have a good program up in Dallas, but Texas is looking for a bigger hire. To be more specific, I think they are looking at guys with a CWS Championship. Guys like O'Connor (UVA) Casey (Oregon St) and perhaps Savage (UCLA)

I still stand with my thought that Corbin (Vandy) isn't going to leave there after the tragic death of a freshman pitcher last week on the day before they played on the regional.

 
Heefner is not in the running. He does have a good program up in Dallas, but Texas is looking for a bigger hire. To be more specific, I think they are looking at guys with a CWS Championship. Guys like O'Connor (UVA) Casey (Oregon St) and perhaps Savage (UCLA)

I still stand with my thought that Corbin (Vandy) isn't going to leave there after the tragic death of a freshman pitcher last week on the day before they played on the regional.
Do you no longer believe in O'Sullivan?

 
Do you no longer believe in O'Sullivan?
I'd still like to have him, but he has said he's not going anywhere, and there has been word that UF AD made several assurances to him that significant investments into facilities would be made at the conclusion of their CWS run, and I believe he may have signed a contract extension.  I honestly did not think that UF would step up to the plate.  I felt that they wouldn't make the investment into the program which was the biggest challenge.  One thing that's interesting is that UF has very little fan support.  I don't know what they have planned for facilities, but it has to be paid for, in part, by attendance and program support.  

 
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Guito burned me so badly the last few years on what used to be my second favorite program at The University, I have not watched college baseball in several years. I'm glad the old fart is finally gone but what lesson did The University learn if they are looking at potential replacements from Florida, California, Carolina, anywhere but Texas?

Guito should have never been hired.

Texas baseball can only recover from the Guito disaster by hiring a coach that knows Texas high school baseball. I don't understand why Harrington at SWT State isn't in this conversation. I would say if you can't hire Griffin from Rice, anyone on his staff is probably a good alternative.

Hire Texas and let the program recover, good grief!

 
Guito burned me so badly the last few years on what used to be my second favorite program at The University, I have not watched college baseball in several years. I'm glad the old fart is finally gone but what lesson did The University learn if they are looking at potential replacements from Florida, California, Carolina, anywhere but Texas?

Guito should have never been hired.

Texas baseball can only recover from the Guito disaster by hiring a coach that knows Texas high school baseball. I don't understand why Harrington at SWT State isn't in this conversation. I would say if you can't hire Griffin from Rice, anyone on his staff is probably a good alternative.

Hire Texas and let the program recover, good grief!
Stick to your path of not following Texas Baseball.

 
Guito burned me so badly the last few years on what used to be my second favorite program at The University, I have not watched college baseball in several years. I'm glad the old fart is finally gone but what lesson did The University learn if they are looking at potential replacements from Florida, California, Carolina, anywhere but Texas?

Guito should have never been hired.

Texas baseball can only recover from the Guito disaster by hiring a coach that knows Texas high school baseball. I don't understand why Harrington at SWT State isn't in this conversation. I would say if you can't hire Griffin from Rice, anyone on his staff is probably a good alternative.

Hire Texas and let the program recover, good grief!
Weird post.

 
O'Connor would be a home run. If Tadlock is attainable and O'Connor declines, Texas would be smart to make a run at him. CWS appearance(s), young, Texas roots, good recruiter of JUCO ranks.

 
Guito burned me so badly the last few years on what used to be my second favorite program at The University, I have not watched college baseball in several years. I'm glad the old fart is finally gone but what lesson did The University learn if they are looking at potential replacements from Florida, California, Carolina, anywhere but Texas?

Guito should have never been hired.

Texas baseball can only recover from the Guito disaster by hiring a coach that knows Texas high school baseball. I don't understand why Harrington at SWT State isn't in this conversation. I would say if you can't hire Griffin from Rice, anyone on his staff is probably a good alternative.

Hire Texas and let the program recover, good grief!
you really know your baseball.
 
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