2021 Recruiting Board/Thread

[Eastexhorn]

You just can't sign anyone to get warm bodies for depth. I trust in the ability of Herman & Co. to evaluate talent and not offer just to fill spots.

Never said just sign anybody. There are several OL prospects rated high enough to play for Texas. Just put out some rffort show some intrest and hopefly sign them,

 

[Eastexhorn]

We are talking about 2021 season or should be. I forgot this on my figures in reply to SHA. 2021 there will be 13 OL as it stands now. Hook um

 

[Baron]

Never said just sign anybody. There are several OL prospects rated high enough to play for Texas. Just put out some rffort show some intrest and hopefly sign them,

I'm one of those that freaks out over recruiting in early spring and mid summer, but on this I'm content to trust the coaching staff. I realize that there was a stretch of games last year where the OL did not play well, but I think the talent and depth is there just waiting its turn.

 

[texbound]

This is from a poster on another site. I'm sharing because I think it explains some of the Brock stuff.

"Tommy Brockmeyer was never going to be the savior of Texas football. It's been clear that he was going to Bama for a while because his daddy wanted him to go there. Blake didn't like the honest assessment of James. It's also why Clemson went from the clear leader to completely out of it. They were going to Bama the day they scheduled 2 OVs to Bama in the summer when games weren't even scheduled. We'll see how it plays out for James in Tuscaloosa."

So, does that mean Texas AND Clemson gave Blake an honest assessment of James and he didn't like it?  If so, then why hasn't there been an offer to Ezra if they thought James needed a lot of work?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

So, does that mean Texas AND Clemson gave Blake an honest assessment of James and he didn't like it?  If so, then why hasn't there been an offer to Ezra if they thought James needed a lot of work?

That's a very good question. Offer Ezra now.

 

[Drb522]

We have finally come to the point where we have quality depth and plenty of it. If you're looking for three-deep, then you're a Bama fan. Third stringers don't normally step in without a let down in performance at the position. One of Hand's biggest assets is his insistence on cross-training OL, which is how we get our quality depth after a long run in the OL desert.

To me, cross training doesn’t build depth.  It helps you out in an emergency.  If you’re having to move your RG (He starting there for a reason)out to RT, you just put a weaker person in at RG and playing a person out of natural position at RT.  Two negatives don’t create a positive.  Depth is where you have a full 2 deep without much drop off and can play your 2’s in tougher games with confidence.  That’s having depth.  We, Texas fans, have just gotten so used to not having depth at OL we’ve told ourselves that cross training really works

we have bodies that are developing at the moment.  We are building depth.  You do that quicker by not letting legacy 5* OT’s leave the state

 

[oldhorn2]

the sun is gonna come up tomorrow. We will still be playing football this fall....oh, wait!

 

[tejasrulz]

So for those of us that don't follow recruiting as well as others, what does dad Brockmeyer have against Herman?

 

[North Texas Golfer]

So for those of us that don't follow recruiting as well as others, what does dad Brockmeyer have against Herman?

Here's the truth as to what dad Brockmeyer has against Herman. He doesn't coach at Alabama.

Anything else falls into the category of internet folklore.

 

[NEOkHorn]

the sun is gonna come up tomorrow. We will still be playing football this fall....oh, wait!

Given how 2020 has gone so far, I'm not as confident in your first sentence as I used to be.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Drb522 you have a very good point on the two deep OL.

I wonder why todays coaches do not have a complete second team and sub. them as a unit. Sure would push team number one.

 

[Baron]

To me, cross training doesn’t build depth.  It helps you out in an emergency.  If you’re having to move your RG (He starting there for a reason)out to RT, you just put a weaker person in at RG and playing a person out of natural position at RT.  Two negatives don’t create a positive.  Depth is where you have a full 2 deep without much drop off and can play your 2’s in tougher games with confidence.  That’s having depth.  We, Texas fans, have just gotten so used to not having depth at OL we’ve told ourselves that cross training really works

we have bodies that are developing at the moment.  We are building depth.  You do that quicker by not letting legacy 5* OT’s leave the state

I agree. It comes down to putting the 11 best athletes/players on the field theory. Last year on defense that equated to constant dime packages because the best athletes were DB's. And then blitzing them from 10 yards off the LOS. Didn't make sense to me.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Baron some one has been trusting the coaching staffs for ten years or so, and so far not too good of results.

Hoping for better this year if they play.

 

[texbound]

Drb522 you have a very good point on the two deep OL.

I wonder why todays coaches do not have a complete second team and sub. them as a unit. Sure would push team number one.

I remember listening to Herman a year or 2 ago and he was talking about OL depth.  He stated, "ideally, you want at least 8 guys you can count on for any season and you develop the rest". 

I guess that meant you want 8 starter quality players where there is little to no drop off in talent.  Does UT have 8 guys for the 20 season that are at that level?  I know they have depth, but is it at that level?  I count Cosmi, Angilau, Okafor, Kerstetter and probably Tyler Johnson (I just think he is in the top 3 or 4 OL talents on the roster).  After that you have Imade, Ghirmai, W. Tyler, C. Jones and R. Moore.  All are unproven, like T. Johnson, but can you pick out 3 guys that would be little to no drop off? 

Imade - is a Sr. so he has experience.

Ghirmai - saw limited action, but he does have talent and could be the backup C

C. Jones - ive heard the staff say nothing but great things about him

W. Tyler - has experience from Juco, but still an unknown

R. Moore - unknown, but same as Jones

I guess my top 3 to conplete the 8 are Imade, Ghirmai and Jones.

Hookfin, Garth, Karic, Majors and Parr need more time to develop (Hookfin is at the top of the list of moving to the next level).  I guess only the staff knows who is ready and who isn't at this point.

 

[Drb522]

Drb522 you have a very good point on the two deep OL.

I wonder why todays coaches do not have a complete second team and sub. them as a unit. Sure would push team number one.

My point is it’s masking depth by saying OL John can kick out and do this, but in reality if OL John breaks a leg your lack of depth is exposed.  Saying cross training is building depth is fools gold, plain and simple.  

 

[Baron]

Baron some one has been trusting the coaching staffs for ten years or so, and so far not too good of results.

Hoping for better this year if they play.

I trusted them in recruiting. Brown, Strong and Herman are all good recruiters.

 

[Drb522]

I remember listening to Herman a year or 2 ago and he was talking about OL depth.  He stated, "ideally, you want at least 8 guys you can count on for any season and you develop the rest". 

I guess that meant you want 8 starter quality players where there is little to no drop off in talent.  Does UT have 8 guys for the 20 season that are at that level?  I know they have depth, but is it at that level?  I count Cosmi, Angilau, Okafor, Kerstetter and probably Tyler Johnson (I just think he is in the top 3 or 4 OL talents on the roster).  After that you have Imade, Ghirmai, W. Tyler, C. Jones and R. Moore.  All are unproven, like T. Johnson, but can you pick out 3 guys that would be little to no drop off? 

Imade - is a Sr. so he has experience.

Ghirmai - saw limited action, but he does have talent and could be the backup C

C. Jones - ive heard the staff say nothing but great things about him

W. Tyler - has experience from Juco, but still an unknown

R. Moore - unknown, but same as Jones

I guess my top 3 to conplete the 8 are Imade, Ghirmai and Jones.

Hookfin, Garth, Karic, Majors and Parr need more time to develop (Hookfin is at the top of the list of moving to the next level).  I guess only the staff knows who is ready and who isn't at this point.

Just like a backup qb needs More than victory formation, a coach has to find opportunities to get experience for his 2nd unit OL.  Spring ball, summer workouts, fall practices, season practices, and 4 games towards a redshirt is enough to gain experience.

as far as a 2nd unit OL, letting guys like T Brock go out of state is killing that.  Constantly taking 3-4 projects every year is killing the depth, especially when some end up transferring out like JP Urguidiz, Peyton Aucoin, and a few others.  

 

[Bear19]

I trusted them in recruiting. Brown, Strong and Herman are all good recruiters.

Strong’s classes looked good on paper but often shitty on the field. Many of them never even saw the field for Texas.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

My point is it’s masking depth by saying OL John can kick out and do this, but in reality if OL John breaks a leg your lack of depth is exposed.  Saying cross training is building depth is fools gold, plain and simple.  

I think you're living in a white palace here. You act like a 3-deep without drop off grows on trees. 

Bama has two more OL than we do. I have no idea how many of those are walk-ons that they just list on their roster.

When you have the lack of quality and depth we've had for the past 10 years, if you don't cross train you need your head examined.

Cross training OL is pretty much what got Hand is reputation. He did it at Auburn and saved a season.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Just like a backup qb needs More than victory formation, a coach has to find opportunities to get experience for his 2nd unit OL.  Spring ball, summer workouts, fall practices, season practices, and 4 games towards a redshirt is enough to gain experience.

as far as a 2nd unit OL, letting guys like T Brock go out of state is killing that.  Constantly taking 3-4 projects every year is killing the depth, especially when some end up transferring out like JP Urguidiz, Peyton Aucoin, and a few others.  

JP was never going to see the field at Texas. He was turribal.

Aucoin was a TE and not a real good one at that.

They weren't going anywhere at Texas. Thats why they left.