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"I'm a man" Gundy vents about LHN

Let's talk some hard numbers. Here are the hard numbers for LHN. The first year's license fee was prorated for a start after July 1. The LHN accounting year starts July 1 of each year. Payments are made quarterly.

For UT to walk away starting July 1, 2018, the Big 12 would have to come up with a plan that guarantees UT $211 million through June 30, 2030. Good luck with that.

Also, claiming LHN has been a failure is more than a bit misleading.

One reason LHN was so important to ESPN was that it was the test platform for the network to develop its college conference network offerings. It was MUCH easier working out the kinks on a one school model than it would have been had they started with SECN, a 14 school model. ESPN saved millions by working out staffing, programming, etc issues on LHN before launching SECN.

Also, let's remember that SECN was the most successful launch of any broadcast endeavor in the history of history and it only generated about $450 million last year, which is $32 million per school (of which the net distribution to each school was only $6 million, a figure that will be difficult to match this year considering the speed at which ESPN is losing subscribers).

If the $48 million in cumulative losses is a correct figure, that means LHN has generated $150 million over the past 5 years, which is $30 million per year. The wildly successful SECN is only generating $32 million per school and considering LHN is projected to be in the black for this coming year, that means it will be generating roughly $44 million which blows the per-school SECN numbers out of the water.

The issue with LHN is not revenue, it has been costs, which is to be expected with any experimental endeavor. The costs of perfecting ESPN's college conference model were put on the shoulders of LHN. Having saved ESPN millions in SECN development costs, LHN is now supposedly in the black.

Why in God's name would ESPN shutter LHN when it is going to generate revenue in excess of $44 million next year and swap that for a conference network modeled after one that generates $32 million per school when no one believes a Big 12 conference network would have footprint to match SECN revenues and how does Gundy propose to deliver $211 million to UT between now and 2030 with any model of Big 12 network?

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Also, let's remember that SECN was the most successful launch of any broadcast endeavor in the history of history and it only generated about $450 million last year, which is $32 million per school (of which the net distribution to each school was only $6 million, a figure that will be difficult to match this year considering the speed at which ESPN is losing subscribers).
Clay Travis & Kristi Dosh says we is gonna makes $30M apiece for SECn this year you stupid t-sip!

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Gundy made one of the most WTF mistakes I've ever seen from a college football coach. In 2011 Okie State and Alabama had  lost one game and Okie State had a big win over Oklahoma and Alabama had already lost to LSU. Instead of speaking out and saying the Cowboys should go, he said he would vote for Alabama. He may be a man, but he's a dumb man.

Mike Gundy would vote Alabama ahead of his own team, if he could

As the final days of the season approach, coaches usually start politicking for their team to be in the national championship or a BCS bowl. But Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy must have missed the class on effective politicking because he's doing it all wrong.

Instead of endorsing his team as the best candidate to face LSU in the national title game, Gundy said Monday that if he had a vote, he would pick Alabama over his Cowboys:

"If somebody sat me down and said (I) had to make a decision," Gundy said, "with where we're at right now, Alabama lost to what would be the No. 1 team in the country LSU, and Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State.

"In our situation, if I was doing it fair, I don't know how I could put us in front of (Alabama) right now."

Luckily for the Cowboys, Gundy doesn't have a vote in the USA Today/Coaches Poll, one of the components of the BCS standings, but simply saying those comments could hurt Oklahoma State's chances of playing for a national title. How could one of the 59 coaches with a vote justify backing Oklahoma State for the national championship game when its own coach won't?

It's also important to note that LSU coach Les Miles, Alabama's Nick Saban, No. 4 Stanford's David Shaw and No. 5 Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer all have votes.

You have to admire Gundy's candor. His team's loss to Iowa State was downright abysmal when compared to Alabama's loss to LSU. Even though some are giving the Cowboys a pass on that game considering it was played the same day the team learned a plane crash had taken the lives of women's basketball coach Kurt Budke and assistant Miranda Serna, it was still a loss unbecoming of a potential national champion.

Currently, there's a pretty big gap between No. 2 Alabama (.955) and No. 3 Oklahoma State (.871) in the BCS standings.{YSP:MORE} Oklahoma State does have the advantage of playing Oklahoma in this weekend's Bedlam game and winning that would give the Cowboys their fifth win over a team in the BCS Top 25. Alabama only has two wins over the BCS Top 25. A win over Oklahoma might be enough to boost the cowboys in the coaches and Harris polls where they're ranked fifth.

However, if Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma, this conversation is moot.

"I'm not saying that I wouldn't (politick)," Gundy said. "… if somebody made me do it, I would probably say something. I would do it uncomfortably. But I wouldn't mention it until after the game, and at that time, it may be too late.

"If we win this game and we play well, and somebody thinks that it's enough to put us in position to play for (the national title), nobody will be more fired up than I will about it and excited for our players."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/mike-gundy-vote-alabama-national-championship-own-team-195721438.html

 
Agree with STP. Plus, Gundy should understand that he is the one who loses if Texas is somewhere else down the road. OSU's future will always be determined by other school(s). Heck, even OU keeps finding that out.

If the Big 12 needs to end, let it end. We'll have options. 

 
I kinda think I have to pay money to watch PAC 10, Big10 and sec networks that I don't give a rat's ass about watching. I t took a long time but the LGN network is on-air and probably helps Texas.  That's good enough for me  If Grundy doesn't think he can complete with Texas, someone needs to let the  little feller know  that's the way it's supposed to be,

 
The whole kerfuffle over LHN is a product of the damaged aggy psyche that believes being "liked" by others is paramount to aggressively representing the interests of the students at the university and the taxpayers who are funding The University of Texas.

And that mentality is why aggy is a second rate university whose alumni pride themselves on their W-2, their bass boat, and The University of Alabama.

 
Very simply - without Texas what network will pick up the Big 12?

In addition, they see the money conference networks bring in and, most importantly, the see the money UT is getting for the LHN.

They want some of UT's action, that's all.

In addition, Gundy, as a HC, see's the recruiting advantage of the LHN and he wants that ended. Especially after this last years recruiting class where OSU got its butt whipped and Pickens was verbally upset about it.
That's my point doc. Let the other nine do their own network and we will stay out of it. Sure they won't get much but F@#K 'em.

 
That's my point doc. Let the other nine do their own network and we will stay out of it. Sure they won't get much but F@#k 'em.
Gundy forgets he is just a football coach - not an AD or school president.

Head coaches are like little tin dictators and they sometimes forget themselves and try to venture into areas where they are in over their heads.

Gundy has shown, several times, that he thinks he is more important than he really is.

 
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The way I read it he is saying Texas will be gone.

Regardless, Gundy has always been a whiny ass, this is no different for him.
Not sure what impact LHN has on OSU. . . no one gives a crap about them anyway.

I'm fine if we take OU and head for the B1G or the ACC.

Do not want the Pac or SEC.

Though better than what we have now.

Let the ankle biters fend for themselves in Conf USA

 
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