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drgilbert said:
Are they delusional or do they know something we don't know
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You know them, what do you think?

Look, honestly, Jones has along relationship with them, so he will probably at least have some second thoughts.  Tiny ones

McCulloch - no way

 
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drgilbert said:
Are they delusional or do they know something we don't know
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Here is Burton on Jones --

" ..... It's hard to describe just how important Jones is to this recruiting class. Texas has a glaring need for a speedy safety and Jones is the best in the cou ntry. Not only would it be a big win for Texas, but it'd be a big win for the Horns over A&M and conference foes Baylor, TCU and even Oklahoma.

As signing day draws to a close, I feel Baylor, not A&M, is the top competition for Jones.  Jones visits Baylor this weekend with fellow DB Parrish Cobb of Waco La Vega.

Strong's home visit today will represent the final in-person meeting for the Horns prior to Jones' signing with one team or another. The Horns have a lot to be positive about in this recruitment, including Jones' relationship with multiple Longhorn commitments and just about the entire Texas coaching staff."

 
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Juan Grande said:
You know them, what do you think?

Look, honestly, Jones has along relationship with them, so he will probably at least have some second thoughts.  Tiny ones

McCulloch - no way
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I still think Jones picks that UT hat on Wednesday

 
Gerald Wilbon --

 "100 percent solid with Texas."

"I'm very excited.  I just know what UT stands for and being part of bringing 'em back to what it used to be. I have a real good feeling about this class we have coming in.

"At first, my mom said she was gonna move to Austin, and I was like, 'We can't have that happen.'  Then on my official, she said if I don't sign the papers she's gonna sign them for me. So, she liked it a lot after she got a chance to see how everything was on campus, and she was able to connect with coaches and now knows that they will take care of me. It was a great experience overall."

"Coach Strong is a great coach. He's a great players' coach, the best I've ever interacted with.  He's a great, down-to-earth person; the whole staff is. It's just great playing for a black coach at Texas and just making history -- it's something I'm looking forward to."

 
"As signing day draws to a close, I feel Baylor, not A&M, is the top competition for Jones. Jones visits Baylor this weekend with fellow DB Parrish Cobb of Waco La Vega."

This is exactly what I was told. It's us and Baylor.

 
Juan Grande said:
Most of these  natl types have no idea what is happening with us

— Twitter API (@twitterapi) November 7, 2011
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Forget the National guys, Dallas writer doesn't know what's going on with UT's recruiting,

Sherrington: How is Charlie Strong supposed to win at Texas when Longhorns are losing the recruiting war?

Straight up: Over nearly four decades as a sportswriter, I haven't paid much attention to recruiting for the same reason I don't hang out in chefs' kitchens or buy progress reports from teenagers. Judge outcomes, not promise. How players exit matters more than how they enter.

Still, it's hard to ignore a possible watershed development this year, framed with a question:

If TCU and Baylor turned the Big 12 on its head with recruiting classes in the 30s and 40s the last five years, how's Charlie Strong going to turn it around now that those little private schools are about to sign players the Longhorns used to get?

With signing day less than a week away, Rivals.com's rankings show Baylor 10th nationally and TCU 15th. Throw in Houston, now 25th, and the leaderboard has a different look this year.

Especially from Texas' viewpoint, which is 50th, behind Baylor, Texas A&M (13th), TCU, Houston, Oklahoma (30th), Arkansas (36th) and Texas Tech (41st), with Oklahoma State (52nd) on the Longhorns' heels.

And if Chad Morris can get that old high school coaching network going next year, SMU (67th) might further splinter UT's former recruiting base.

In his first two seasons, Strong's problems have mostly been two-fold: Not enough talent and your basic disaster on offense. The talent portion of the equation isn't all his fault. Mack Brown may have posted recruiting classes among the nation's best in 2011 (3rd) and 2012 (2nd), but they didn't exactly play out that way.

As referenced previously, we know this because of the way the players left the program. Consider that from 2003 through 2007, a period in which Texas won a national title and no fewer than 10 games a year, the NFL drafted 10 Longhorns in the first or second round. The draft after Texas lost to Alabama in the title game, three Longhorns went in the top two rounds.

Compare those results with the last four drafts, in which a total of only two Longhorns were picked in the first two rounds.

And the Longhorns whiffed completely on the '14 draft.

As you're no doubt thinking, it helps if you can coach 'em up a little bit. We'll see what a new offensive coordinator does for Texas' fortunes. Certainly can't hurt.

But here's the problem: Texas has been mostly out-coached for four or five years now by Art Briles and Gary Patterson, and with players considered inferior. If that perception hasn't already changed, it's about to do so dramatically if the recruiting evaluators have got this right.

Baylor has commitments from the No. 1 wide receiver in the state (Sachse's Devin Duvernay), the top defensive end (Trophy Club's Brandon Bowen) and the No. 2 offensive lineman (Silsbee's Patrick Hudson).

Texas has the top-rated quarterback in Arlington Lamar's Shane Buechele, a good place to start. But the nation's best programs win in the offensive and defensive lines, as Alabama annually demonstrates. Outside a quarterback, the most difficult positions to find at any level of football are a top-flight pass-rusher and defensive tackle. Which is probably why in Rivals.com's rankings, there are only three five-star talents in Texas, and two of them are linemen: Allen offensive tackle GregLittle and Westfield defensive tackle Ed Oliver. Little is committed to Ole Miss.

Oliver? Houston.

Up-and-coming programs or those that play an exciting brand of offense can often pirate a few top prospects at skill positions. But a really good defensive tackle? Now that's a coup for Herman, who also has a commitment from the state's No. 2 receiver, Westfield's Tyrie Cleveland.

Bad enough for Texas' recovery prospects with the SEC making inroads like never before, picking off four- and five-star talent. The enemy within the state keeps growing, too.

Over the previous five recruiting classes, UT's final ranking averaged 12.2, best in the area. Trailing the Longhorns were A&M and Oklahoma (tied at 13.8), Arkansas (27.8), Oklahoma State (32.2), TCU (35.4), Tech (36), Baylor (40), Houston (70.4) and SMU (78.4). Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are headed in the wrong direction this year.

No matter what your daddy told you about Texas' fertile football fields, there are only so many good players to go around. Used to be the best went to Texas or Oklahoma, and everyone else fought over the rest. The Longhorns and Sooners didn't go through many troughs historically because they could count on the next recruiting class or two to pull them out.

Friends, those days are long gone. Even if this recruiting class proves to be an anomaly, it adds another rung to Texas' climb. True, Strong could do better in recruiting next year with eight or nine wins this fall. But at best, it doesn't look like a quick fix. TCU and Baylor aren't going away anytime soon, not with Briles and Patterson practically etched in stone in Waco and Fort Worth.

As for Houston's long-term prospects, the Coogs will suffer appreciably if or when Herman leaves for another job. Of course, that may not be what Charlie wants to hear, either.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2016/01/28/sherrington-charlie-strong-supposed-win-texas-longhorns-losing-recruiting-war

 
primal defense said:
Forget the National guys, Dallas writer doesn't know what's going on with UT's recruiting,

Sherrington: How is Charlie Strong supposed to win at Texas when Longhorns are losing the recruiting war?

Go ahead, keep poking us with that stick because you think we are wounded and dying, this wounded animal is about to get up and maul your ass!!!! #believe Hook 'me!

Straight up: Over nearly four decades as a sportswriter, I haven't paid much attention to recruiting for the same reason I don't hang out in chefs' kitchens or buy progress reports from teenagers. Judge outcomes, not promise. How players exit matters more than how they enter.

Still, it's hard to ignore a possible watershed development this year, framed with a question:

If TCU and Baylor turned the Big 12 on its head with recruiting classes in the 30s and 40s the last five years, how's Charlie Strong going to turn it around now that those little private schools are about to sign players the Longhorns used to get?

With signing day less than a week away, Rivals.com's rankings show Baylor 10th nationally and TCU 15th. Throw in Houston, now 25th, and the leaderboard has a different look this year.

Especially from Texas' viewpoint, which is 50th, behind Baylor, Texas A&M (13th), TCU, Houston, Oklahoma (30th), Arkansas (36th) and Texas Tech (41st), with Oklahoma State (52nd) on the Longhorns' heels.

And if Chad Morris can get that old high school coaching network going next year, SMU (67th) might further splinter UT's former recruiting base.

In his first two seasons, Strong's problems have mostly been two-fold: Not enough talent and your basic disaster on offense. The talent portion of the equation isn't all his fault. Mack Brown may have posted recruiting classes among the nation's best in 2011 (3rd) and 2012 (2nd), but they didn't exactly play out that way.

As referenced previously, we know this because of the way the players left the program. Consider that from 2003 through 2007, a period in which Texas won a national title and no fewer than 10 games a year, the NFL drafted 10 Longhorns in the first or second round. The draft after Texas lost to Alabama in the title game, three Longhorns went in the top two rounds.

Compare those results with the last four drafts, in which a total of only two Longhorns were picked in the first two rounds.

And the Longhorns whiffed completely on the '14 draft.

As you're no doubt thinking, it helps if you can coach 'em up a little bit. We'll see what a new offensive coordinator does for Texas' fortunes. Certainly can't hurt.

But here's the problem: Texas has been mostly out-coached for four or five years now by Art Briles and Gary Patterson, and with players considered inferior. If that perception hasn't already changed, it's about to do so dramatically if the recruiting evaluators have got this right.

Baylor has commitments from the No. 1 wide receiver in the state (Sachse's Devin Duvernay), the top defensive end (Trophy Club's Brandon Bowen) and the No. 2 offensive lineman (Silsbee's Patrick Hudson).

Texas has the top-rated quarterback in Arlington Lamar's Shane Buechele, a good place to start. But the nation's best programs win in the offensive and defensive lines, as Alabama annually demonstrates. Outside a quarterback, the most difficult positions to find at any level of football are a top-flight pass-rusher and defensive tackle. Which is probably why in Rivals.com's rankings, there are only three five-star talents in Texas, and two of them are linemen: Allen offensive tackle GregLittle and Westfield defensive tackle Ed Oliver. Little is committed to Ole Miss.

Oliver? Houston.

Up-and-coming programs or those that play an exciting brand of offense can often pirate a few top prospects at skill positions. But a really good defensive tackle? Now that's a coup for Herman, who also has a commitment from the state's No. 2 receiver, Westfield's Tyrie Cleveland.

Bad enough for Texas' recovery prospects with the SEC making inroads like never before, picking off four- and five-star talent. The enemy within the state keeps growing, too.

Over the previous five recruiting classes, UT's final ranking averaged 12.2, best in the area. Trailing the Longhorns were A&M and Oklahoma (tied at 13.8), Arkansas (27.8), Oklahoma State (32.2), TCU (35.4), Tech (36), Baylor (40), Houston (70.4) and SMU (78.4). Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are headed in the wrong direction this year.

No matter what your daddy told you about Texas' fertile football fields, there are only so many good players to go around. Used to be the best went to Texas or Oklahoma, and everyone else fought over the rest. The Longhorns and Sooners didn't go through many troughs historically because they could count on the next recruiting class or two to pull them out.

Friends, those days are long gone. Even if this recruiting class proves to be an anomaly, it adds another rung to Texas' climb. True, Strong could do better in recruiting next year with eight or nine wins this fall. But at best, it doesn't look like a quick fix. TCU and Baylor aren't going away anytime soon, not with Briles and Patterson practically etched in stone in Waco and Fort Worth.

As for Houston's long-term prospects, the Coogs will suffer appreciably if or when Herman leaves for another job. Of course, that may not be what Charlie wants to hear, either.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2016/01/28/sherrington-charlie-strong-supposed-win-texas-longhorns-losing-recruiting-war
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My aggie friend thinks we get Jones. Two reasons why, his friends are coming to UT and he will probably start at UT. Says he probably won't start at aggie. He also thinks they get Daniels.

 
primal defense said:
Forget the National guys, Dallas writer doesn't know what's going on with UT's recruiting,

Sherrington: How is Charlie Strong supposed to win at Texas when Longhorns are losing the recruiting war?

Straight up: Over nearly four decades as a sportswriter, I haven't paid much attention to recruiting for the same reason I don't hang out in chefs' kitchens or buy progress reports from teenagers. Judge outcomes, not promise. How players exit matters more than how they enter.

Still, it's hard to ignore a possible watershed development this year, framed with a question:

If TCU and Baylor turned the Big 12 on its head with recruiting classes in the 30s and 40s the last five years, how's Charlie Strong going to turn it around now that those little private schools are about to sign players the Longhorns used to get?

With signing day less than a week away, Rivals.com's rankings show Baylor 10th nationally and TCU 15th. Throw in Houston, now 25th, and the leaderboard has a different look this year.

Especially from Texas' viewpoint, which is 50th, behind Baylor, Texas A&M (13th), TCU, Houston, Oklahoma (30th), Arkansas (36th) and Texas Tech (41st), with Oklahoma State (52nd) on the Longhorns' heels.

And if Chad Morris can get that old high school coaching network going next year, SMU (67th) might further splinter UT's former recruiting base.

In his first two seasons, Strong's problems have mostly been two-fold: Not enough talent and your basic disaster on offense. The talent portion of the equation isn't all his fault. Mack Brown may have posted recruiting classes among the nation's best in 2011 (3rd) and 2012 (2nd), but they didn't exactly play out that way.

As referenced previously, we know this because of the way the players left the program. Consider that from 2003 through 2007, a period in which Texas won a national title and no fewer than 10 games a year, the NFL drafted 10 Longhorns in the first or second round. The draft after Texas lost to Alabama in the title game, three Longhorns went in the top two rounds.

Compare those results with the last four drafts, in which a total of only two Longhorns were picked in the first two rounds.

And the Longhorns whiffed completely on the '14 draft.

As you're no doubt thinking, it helps if you can coach 'em up a little bit. We'll see what a new offensive coordinator does for Texas' fortunes. Certainly can't hurt.

But here's the problem: Texas has been mostly out-coached for four or five years now by Art Briles and Gary Patterson, and with players considered inferior. If that perception hasn't already changed, it's about to do so dramatically if the recruiting evaluators have got this right.

Baylor has commitments from the No. 1 wide receiver in the state (Sachse's Devin Duvernay), the top defensive end (Trophy Club's Brandon Bowen) and the No. 2 offensive lineman (Silsbee's Patrick Hudson).

Texas has the top-rated quarterback in Arlington Lamar's Shane Buechele, a good place to start. But the nation's best programs win in the offensive and defensive lines, as Alabama annually demonstrates. Outside a quarterback, the most difficult positions to find at any level of football are a top-flight pass-rusher and defensive tackle. Which is probably why in Rivals.com's rankings, there are only three five-star talents in Texas, and two of them are linemen: Allen offensive tackle GregLittle and Westfield defensive tackle Ed Oliver. Little is committed to Ole Miss.

Oliver? Houston.

Up-and-coming programs or those that play an exciting brand of offense can often pirate a few top prospects at skill positions. But a really good defensive tackle? Now that's a coup for Herman, who also has a commitment from the state's No. 2 receiver, Westfield's Tyrie Cleveland.

Bad enough for Texas' recovery prospects with the SEC making inroads like never before, picking off four- and five-star talent. The enemy within the state keeps growing, too.

Over the previous five recruiting classes, UT's final ranking averaged 12.2, best in the area. Trailing the Longhorns were A&M and Oklahoma (tied at 13.8), Arkansas (27.8), Oklahoma State (32.2), TCU (35.4), Tech (36), Baylor (40), Houston (70.4) and SMU (78.4). Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are headed in the wrong direction this year.

No matter what your daddy told you about Texas' fertile football fields, there are only so many good players to go around. Used to be the best went to Texas or Oklahoma, and everyone else fought over the rest. The Longhorns and Sooners didn't go through many troughs historically because they could count on the next recruiting class or two to pull them out.

Friends, those days are long gone. Even if this recruiting class proves to be an anomaly, it adds another rung to Texas' climb. True, Strong could do better in recruiting next year with eight or nine wins this fall. But at best, it doesn't look like a quick fix. TCU and Baylor aren't going away anytime soon, not with Briles and Patterson practically etched in stone in Waco and Fort Worth.

As for Houston's long-term prospects, the Coogs will suffer appreciably if or when Herman leaves for another job. Of course, that may not be what Charlie wants to hear, either.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2016/01/28/sherrington-charlie-strong-supposed-win-texas-longhorns-losing-recruiting-war
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It's going to be interesting to see what all the write-ups are gonna look like on the day after signing day.

 
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Euless Trinity DT Chris Daniels - Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin went in-home with the four-star run-stopper yesterday and hope to make up ground on the Texas Longhorns, who are the current favorites to land the 6-3.5, 300-pounder, this weekend. Daniels wanted to commit to the Aggies earlier this fall and we’re the leaders for the majority of his recruitment.

 
MBHORNSFAN said:
6figs gold

Euless Trinity DT Chris Daniels - Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin went in-home with the four-star run-stopper yesterday and hope to make up ground on the Texas Longhorns, who are the current favorites to land the 6-3.5, 300-pounder, this weekend. Daniels wanted to commit to the Aggies earlier this fall and we’re the leaders for the majority of his recruitment.
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Daniels is ours

 
MBHORNSFAN said:
6figs gold

Euless Trinity DT Chris Daniels - Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin went in-home with the four-star run-stopper yesterday and hope to make up ground on the Texas Longhorns, who are the current favorites to land the 6-3.5, 300-pounder, this weekend. Daniels wanted to commit to the Aggies earlier this fall and we’re the leaders for the majority of his recruitment.
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"We're" for were. 😆

 
MBHORNSFAN said:
6figs gold

Euless Trinity DT Chris Daniels - Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin went in-home with the four-star run-stopper yesterday and hope to make up ground on the Texas Longhorns, who are the current favorites to land the 6-3.5, 300-pounder, this weekend. Daniels wanted to commit to the Aggies earlier this fall and we’re the leaders for the majority of his recruitment.
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This is true, they slow played him.  Now, they're down another DT, Justin Manning is on medical scholarship and is no longer playing football.

 
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