Because I feel so strongly about this, I'm going to get on my high horse.

[doc longhorn]

A few days ago, an FSU football freshman QB smashed a young female in her face and with his doubled up fist.

I have been on another UT site discussing this and I am ashamed of what some of the men posters have said.  Ashamed and embarrassed.

What has happened to the men of America?  Even more - what has happened to the men of Texas?

When is it EVER OK to punch a woman?

I'm sure most of us have viewed the film clip and saw what occurred.

And, yes, it appeared that the big, bad ruffian of a girl took a swing on him.

Well, he showed her.  He hit her hard enough to crush her face.  He could have made a vegetable out of her or, even worse, killed her.  But he, by God, showed that bully of a woman.

Instead of just departing the premises.

I don't normally talk like this - especially in front of women that I know will read this, but he is a sorry, no good POS and a cowardly mother f**king scum of a thug.

There, I have ranted.  Forgive my obscenities, ladies.

 

[streettopeschel]

when is it EVER ok? I guess in a life threatening situation where she's got a knife and I don't. positioning for a drink at a bar, probably not just cause.

now, why a woman would want to threaten me with a knife is a different topic.

 

[java]

doc, I have a theory.

I grew up during a time when parents taught their kids that men didn't hit women. Daddy also told me that I shouldn't hit a man because it just wasn't the right thing to do. I think many parents still do that; however, far too many don't. Many kids are now raised by grandparents, aunts, or others. I've yet to have a kid in class, raised by a grandparent, that exhibits normal behavior. There are some out there, I'm certain, but they haven't been in my classes.

I also think that violence so many kids are exposed to in neighborhoods and in some schools can eventually influence their behavior.

That's my only explanation, and it's not a very good one. I find it unacceptable. Nothing will get a kid in one of my classes in trouble faster than disrespectful behavior toward me. The next worst transgression is disrespectful behavior toward another student.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I'm with you, Doc. You just don't hit a woman. If she hits you, just take it and exit the situation asap.

I am embarrassed for the young man, and his attorney, who thought it wise to bring up that she threw the first punch. Perhaps she didn't like the way he was squeezing her arm.

IMO, there is no rationalization.

Changing gears, if the woman in question is twice your size and a bodybuilder, forget about "taking it" and just minimize damage/exit scene asap. lol Worry about pride on another day lol

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

At OU this punch gets you on the marquee for Fight Night

 

[primal defense]

I'm with you, Doc. You just don't hit a woman. If she hits you, just take it and exit the situation asap.

I am embarrassed for the young man, and his attorney, who thought it wise to bring up that she threw the first punch. Perhaps she didn't like the way he was squeezing her arm.

IMO, there is no rationalization.

Changing gears, if the woman in question is twice your size and a bodybuilder, forget about "taking it" and just minimize damage/exit scene asap. lol Worry about pride on another day lol

HE WHO DOESN'T FIGHT AND RUNS AWAY, LIVES TO RUNAWAY ANOTHER DAY!

 

[Chitownhorn]

Giddy up Doc. I'm right there with you. Whether she swings at you first or not, just walk away. Give Fisher credit for dismissing him the team. Granted it was a no brainer, but as we've seen at other schools you might just get suspended for a year and then welcomed back with open arms. 

 

[primal defense]

I agree that there is no way you can hit a female plain and simple. I heard that he probably won't ever play in the NFL because of this which is a high price to pay.

That women in the video was really disgusting, she was the first one to make a fist and wanting to make it physical which looks like she had the firm idea that I can hit you, but you can't hit me. It also was reported that she made some remarks which was racial. She was a victim of that punch, but she was no victim in this incident.

Unfortunately, women are becoming violent and men are left with the choice of running away or some kind of defensive fighting where the female can throw punches while the man cannot. It's either run away or defensive fighting which did not work to well for Hope Solo's nephew while she was banging his head against the ground. I learned very early as kid not to fight, especially bigger kids because if I hit them then they will hit me back. More and more that does not seem to be the case for some violent women.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-are-more-violent-says-study-622388.html

However, Dr Anne Campbell, a psychologist at the University of Durham, said that women should still receive the most support because they were the greater victims of domestic violence. "The outcome of violence is that women are more damaged by it and need the bulk of resources," she said. "But women's violence has become increasingly legitimised. There is a sense now that it's OK to 'slap the bastard'."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/story?id=1713709&page=1

In his book, "See Jane Hit," Dr. James Garbarino said cultural changes in entertainment and sports have stripped away girls' inhibitions.

"You used to be able to say to girls, 'Don't hit,' and have the culture back that up," he said. "Now that is no longer true."

Girls no longer seem to worry if they're being "like the boys."

"Sports can and does increase the risk of aggression, and aggression spilling off the field," he said.

It's not just sports. Entertainment also is laced with violence by women. "In movies, we're seeing very aggressive and sexy young women take on the world with knives and guns and bombs and karate and fists," Garbarino said, "so a girl gets the message you can be violent and a good guy."

Along with Taylor Swift, Rihanna is one of the top female pop stars. Here's her new violent video:

http://www.vevo.com/watch/rihanna/bitch-better-have-my-money-(explicit)/QM5FT1590005

 

[UT1983]

I was raised "You don't hit a girl."   That was in the day of "girls" acting as "ladies".  No "lady" would ever hit another person unless in self defense.. The girl in the video was certainly no "lady". 

I agree the best action to take would have been to leave just as soon as she hit you (if not before so she never had the chance).   What needs to change is the thinking from females that they can get physical and guys can't.  I believe you do have the right to defend yourself, even from a female.  So if a female were to come up to me and start hitting me with closed fists or with an object, I do have the right to defend myself.  Hopefully that defense comes in the form of an exit so she can not continue the assault.  If an exit is not possible, then you have to do what you have to in order to avoid bodily harm. 

That being said, it appeared the guy did have every opportunity to exit the bar before and after she hauled off and hit him.  He struck her out of spite instead of defense in my opinion and therefore, is a (insert derogatory term of choice here).

 

[Bear19]

Hard to have any sympathy for either of these retarded pricks.

 

[java]

Bear, it is hard to have sympathy for either of them. Both of them were an accident waiting to happen, but the problem is, he could have killed her. She probably couldn't have inflicted that type of injury without a weapon.

 

[primal defense]

Hard to have any sympathy for either of these retarded pricks.

I agree that they're assholes. However, when it escalates to violence then it's usually Mr. Booze.

The guys in my high school that got into fights over the weekend were always drunk. It made you braver and you didn't feel the pain when your receiving it. That wasn't my lifestyle.

 

[joeywa]

10-feet tall and bulletproof.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I'm going out on a limb here and will suggest that the if the woman hits you, as the case with the Div 1 football player in the bar, you're probably not going to walk away hurt. For cry in out loud, you're a football player and probably get popped with towels in the locker room harder than she'll hit you.

Back in the dark age when I was in that age group, there were women then who thought they had a right to hit you and no matter what, you had no right to return fire. You just walk away knowing that you're the better for it and they still have a problem to get worked out.. . without you.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

10-feet tall and bulletproof.

Dan Jenkin's "10 Stages of Drunkenness"

1. Witty and Charming.
2. Rich and Powerful.
3. Benevolent.
4. Clairvoyant.
5. F@#K Dinner.
6. Patriotic.
7. Crank Up the Enola Gay.
8. Witty and Charming, Part II.
9. Invisible.
10. Bulletproof.

 

[primal defense]

I'm going out on a limb here and will suggest that the if the woman hits you, as the case with the Div 1 football player in the bar, you're probably not going to walk away hurt. For cry in out loud, you're a football player and probably get popped with towels in the locker room harder than she'll hit you.

Back in the dark age when I was in that age group, there were women then who thought they had a right to hit you and no matter what, you had no right to return fire. You just walk away knowing that you're the better for it and they still have a problem to get worked out.. . without you.

The odds are a football player will not be seriously hurt by a woman in a fight, however every man has his weak spots even football players.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Oh no, he went all Ray Guy on him

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Just look at that form and follow through . . . 

 

[java]

I finally looked at the video. He restrained her right hand easily enough. If he had wanted to, he could have grabbed her left easily enough. He just lost his temper and smacked her. I hope they have him doing community service from 7am to 4pm in the sun, digging ditches, loading sandbags, and carrying buckets of water. Hard physical labor, 8 hours a day, 1 hour for lunch, and 2 15 minute breaks.

After community service, he can go to work.