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Not a strategy, just following up on your numerous innuendos regarding this topic which are dangled before us but never revealed. Obviously I am not shrewd enough to trick you into revealing any info, but when I clap my hands you will act like a chicken and then wake up and remember nothing that has been said here.

Thanks for the update on Deloss, I didn't realize he wasn't the AD anymore. But seriously, that was a response someone threw out on this board awhile back regarding not turning a school in to the NCAA in prior recruiting years.

PS: don't we post to stimulate conversation and questions? Just replying to your original posting as an interested HS stalwart!

I was basically repeating myself. I didn't "dangle" anything before you. I told you up front that I wouldn't elaborate. That's not dangling. That's cutting it off.

STP referred to Dodds, above. That was in response to him and the fact that he correctly pointed out that Dodds stopped UT from turning aggy in during previous situations. We don't have that obstacle anymore. That's kind of a big thing.

 
I disagree with this "only if" scenario, neither showed much interest in Texas the whole recruiting season. Except for the short period that Kyle Murray was interested. Compare their attitude with Cecil Cherry who has such high enthusiasm for the program. While I would have liked to have both of them for their talent, since that can't happen then I could care less about them.

You don't have to be a insider to suspect funny goings on when you talking about Mack almost taking a visit to Auburn and ending up at A&M. Ole Miss is another SEC school I always suspect. Who knows maybe Lodge just wanted to go back home to Mississippi.

Don't know why you can't say anything. When the aggies thought they may lose Murray to us, they were all saying we were paying the Murray's and we promised him the starting job.

I believed them, so since he's going to play for the aggies that means one thing.They out bid us.The aggies are paying them and they promised Murray the starting job. I have the same proof that the aggies did about us. 

I'm not aggy. It would not help UT for me to open my mouth any more than I have. I'm not making a wild accusation nor is it important to me to just fling mud at aggy. When there's something there, you shut up and let things play out.

We never offered Murray anything. And aggy didn't counter with anything. That was a pure recruiting battle that dad was very much involved with. So much so that at one point I was asking my contacts whether or not he was worse than Brad McCoy or not. Their response in each case was a resounding yes, but Charlie can handle him.

 
Ok, so the following is what I was told by a couple of well placed sources regarding some things we saw on the recruiting trail.

Kevin Murray and Kevin Sumblin do not get along. I suspect they will continue to not get along. I think Sumblin loses either way (MLB or helicopter dad). The two have had several conversations that did not end well. In fact, around early December it became a heightened sense of frustration on the Murray side.

Murray has sent four QBs to play for Sumblin. All four have transferred away after disappointing experiences with Sumblin.

So dad made some calls to Charlie and the possible visit was talked about. It was supposed to happen in late December, then early January, before it finally happened. If you follow HIg, this is what he was talking about back then when he said "you'll know it when you see it."

Dad prompted the whole idea of Lodge coming with them to Austin. Dad contacted Mack while the visit was going on in Austin. Papa was showing Sumblin whats up. He made his point, I think.

In the end it still came back to Kyler and there was just too much time invested by Sumblin and too much growing up aggy for Charlie to overcome.

Mack was literally a Texas commit when he left Austin. That changed quickly, too quickly, when it came down to the wire. And once decided, Texas was shut out. I'd love to go further into this but it would be harmful, IMO, if I did. This will resurface, IMO, at some point in the not so distant future.

It's too bad Lodge could not make that second visit to Austin. If he had, I'm fairly certain he'd be a Horn right now. His visit really shook up his perception of Texas. On that last weekend though, instead, Ole Miss got more time in his ear and in his living room. Lodge fell in love with one of our coeds during the evening's festivities. She could have closed the deal for us had he been able to return lol.

Soso is the one who ended up in love on one of his visits. But again, he left Austin sold on the Longhorns. In this case, it was some pure gut-wrenching recruiting by UCLA staff that swung him (plus a trainer and a large population of beautiful asian ladies). He went back to UCLA in the end.

There was an abundance of dirty recruiting going on this year and the primary offender was easily identified. Next year's recruiting strategy could be very interesting as a result.

Laughingly, I think the Paysites made some news this recruiting cycle. OB's management jumped about as far on a limb as you can get – only to have it break in half on them. IMO, Longhorns were so grateful to be considered by Murray that they really didn't care that NO PC took place as OB reported it would with great certainty, or that Kyler Murray would not be a Horn as they proclaimed he would.

Then some England-base jihadist decides to take down a Texas recruiting site right at the most inopportune time on the calendar. In fact, the site is still being hacked as I type this. I have a membership there but can't even get to the site to log out and end my membership.

On a serious side, I think Hornsports did some pioneering this go-round. A great idea was converted into reality with the fabulous NSD board/chatroom. No one else had this feature, not even close. HS literally removed the need to click anywhere else. Bravo! . . . A thread that ended up being the talk of the message-board universe was graciously allowed to sail along without delay by HS decision makers. Some people here now found us because of that thread. And what a thread it was . . .

What a way to end a recruiting season. Friggin wow.
Enough with the conspiracy theories and over analyzing of high school boys decisions. Recruiting is and has always been a volatile market. Unless you want to work as an investigator for the NCAA, then in that case go right ahead and team up with Captain Hindsight as you indulge your skepticism.

 
Enough with the conspiracy theories and over analyzing of high school boys decisions. Recruiting is and has always been a volatile market. Unless you want to work as an investigator for the NCAA, then in that case go right ahead and team up with Captain Hindsight as you indulge your skepticism.

I suppose unless you want to be a journalist, you should probably leave a keyboard alone. I don't buy that but we'll play with your logic here.

It's funny how I get asked to share some information and then people come out of nowhere upset by it all.

I've seen this happen for years and will never understand it. There should be a study.

 
f##king laughable that a program with a losing record finishes in the top 10 in most recruiting rankings and points fingers about cheating at others.

 
f##king laughable that a program with a losing record finishes in the top 10 in most recruiting rankings and points fingers about cheating at others.
I'm going to disagree. UT hasn't pointed fingers at anyone. That's you making stuff up. The F bomb was unnecessary.

If anything, I pointed a finger. But I didn't recruit anyone.

What's laughable is a program that's supposed to be top 10, has all kinds of swag momentum, SEC and that nonsense – must resort to cheating against a 6-7 school for a recruit.

 
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We never offered Murray anything. And aggy didn't counter with anything. That was a pure recruiting battle that dad was very much involved with. So much so that at one point I was asking my contacts whether or not he was worse than Brad McCoy or not. Their response in each case was a resounding yes, but Charlie can handle him.

I read somewhere, but I can no longer remember where, that -- one of the things Murray's dad was after -- was access to the UT practice fields.  He wanted to use them on some level with regard to his QB-coaching venture.  I dont know or otherwise cannot recall more than that.  We said no, of course.

I guess that did not come from you?

 
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f##king laughable that a program with a losing record finishes in the top 10 in most recruiting rankings and points fingers about cheating at others.
You're far more level headed and insightful than this. Don't give people a reason not to take you seriously. 

 
I was basically repeating myself. I didn't "dangle" anything before you. I told you up front that I wouldn't elaborate. That's not dangling. That's cutting it off.

STP referred to Dodds, above. That was in response to him and the fact that he correctly pointed out that Dodds stopped UT from turning aggy in during previous situations. We don't have that obstacle anymore. That's kind of a big thing.
Constantly repeating the same teaser is dangling in my book. Agree to disagree. Thanks for the STP reference, I knew I saw that somewhere.
 
I read somewhere, but I can no longer remember where, that -- one of the things Murray's dad was after -- was access to the UT practice fields. He wanted to use them on some level with regard to his QB-coaching venture. I dont know or otherwise cannot recall more than that. We said no, of course.

I guess that did not come from you?
The practice field scenario seems like it would be a violation correct? Not on the level of Newtons dad wanting 100k though!

 
Aggy will be selling #WRTS merchandising and giving the Mack family a kickback...that's my guess......But who knows.

Appreciate the write up SHA!
This is what I was talking about earlier in the thread. I won't go so far as to accuse the school, the player, the family or the lawyer. But I do find it to be an interesting scenario. 

As I was saying before, many here know that the ever so popular #WRTS slogan is trademarked by Mack's family. Also known by many here, is the efforts that were made by the football team, school and the Mack family to make #WRTS a viral thing. It was something that Aggie players, the team and fans lobbied behind. It's popularity and growth has reached a point in which we'll undoubtedly see it on shirts, hats, posters, and other forms of Aggie memorabilia. All A&M has to do now is to get the shirts online and in to their Collie Station University stores and watch the revenue pile in. Then you cut a nice clean check to the Mack family as they're the trademark owners and all looks fine.

A&M has more or less set up a revenue stream for the Mack family without having to use a so-called bag man. To make it even more eye-opening, the lawyer who filed for the trademark on behalf of the family...an A&M alumni.

 
The practice field scenario seems like it would be a violation correct? Not on the level of Newtons dad wanting 100k though!
I admit I am hazy on the details but what I recall is that just the suggestion of something like that made the Belmont/Moncrief crowd queasy 

 
f##king laughable that a program with a losing record finishes in the top 10 in most recruiting rankings and points fingers about cheating at others.
Relax dude.  It's not like Aggie has a history of unethical practices.  Whether they did or not, I don't know.  But since I am on a Longhorn website, it makes sense to post about Aggie delusion and cheating.  

 
f##king laughable that a program with a losing record finishes in the top 10 in most recruiting rankings and points fingers about cheating at others.
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This is what I was talking about earlier in the thread. I won't go so far as to accuse the school, the player, the family or the lawyer. But I do find it to be an interesting scenario. 

As I was saying before, many here know that the ever so popular #WRTS slogan is trademarked by Mack's family. Also known by many here, is the efforts that were made by the football team, school and the Mack family to make #WRTS a viral thing. It was something that Aggie players, the team and fans lobbied behind. It's popularity and growth has reached a point in which we'll undoubtedly see it on shirts, hats, posters, and other forms of Aggie memorabilia. All A&M has to do now is to get the shirts online and in to their Collie Station University stores and watch the revenue pile in. Then you cut a nice clean check to the Mack family as they're the trademark owners and all looks fine.

A&M has more or less set up a revenue stream for the Mack family without having to use a so-called bag man. To make it even more eye-opening, the lawyer who filed for the trademark on behalf of the family...an A&M alumni.
Hell, a UT alum could've trademarked #WRTS as well.

We'd be buying the merchandise, too, if Mack had signed with UT. This isn't new. The Manziel family capitalized on the sale of JohnnyFootball stuff and aggie attempted to help "KennyTrill" cash in, too.

It's a NCAA Rules loophole, but one that a good capitalist shouldn't get too pissed off about. Think of the comedic gold, too, if aggie continues their downward spiral and somehow blows a future OOC game against Rice, UTSA, or SMU.

 
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Hell, a UT alum could've trademarked #WRTS as well.

We'd be buying the merchandise, too, if Mack had signed with UT. This isn't new. The Manziel family capitalized on the sale of JohnnyFootball stuff and aggie attempted to help "KennyTrill" cash in, too.

It's a NCAA Rules loophole, but one that a good capitalist shouldn't get too pissed off about. Think of the comedic gold, too, if aggie continues their downward spiral and somehow blows a future OOC game against Rice, UTSA, or SMU.
Yep. Not upset about it in the least. Just find it interesting.

 
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