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SignUp Now!I remember everyone saying the same thing about Heard. Its the precursor to the excitement on every recruit. Most know I am not Swoopes fanboy. Its difficult to believe that Heard was worse than what we saw in the TCU. At that point Im sure they wanted to save his RS, but why not during the KState game? There were numerous bad games by Swoopes. Then everyone talked about how Watson wont play true freshmen. Now its Kyler Murray and he hasnt even committed yet. Ah the Merry-go-round. I will hold my excitement til it materializes whether its his commitment or him beating out Heard and Gentry.
Higdon over at Scout said we have 3 silent commits. Take that as you will. If it's true my guess it's the Florida boys. Irvin, Clarington and Davis.
SHA,You should watch a replay of the 6A Dv 1 state final. Murray's arm is clearly stronger than Heards.
What you're not considering is the fact that Murray has had the luxury of two things Heard was not:
1. A dedicated QB coach for his whole HS career. A benefit of attending Allen ISD
2. Being the son of a very successful college QB.
Together, his IQ is miles ahead of his counterparts.
Heard can be a much better QB than Swoopes. But he'll need to learn the offensive scheme in order to show that. Last I heard his light was turning on.
I second that.The thing that disappointed me the most with Tyrone was his body language.
I believe D. Lodge is currently scheduled to be in Oxford on Jan 23. Maybe he will change date?
Same as DT Daylon Mack, WR DaMarkus Lodge, TE Chris Clark, WR John Burt and TE Camrin Knight
Maybe Holton Hill, Jamabo,Kendall Sheffield and others too, we will see.
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Shall we resume our debate over Swoopes we had going before the TCU game?Oh lord...
I think you've forgotten the point I was arguing. I never argued Swoopes was great (or even good), I argued against your belief that a QB had to be 'vocal' and 'demonstrative' on the sideline to be a leader (hence my eye roll to the 'poor body language comment'). Piss all over Swoopes all you want - he was the best we had last season after Ash was lost.Shall we resume our debate over Swoopes we had going before the TCU game?
I havent heard much from you on the "Swoopes there it is" front since the TCU game. /crickets
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Here we go again.I think you've forgotten the point I was arguing. I never argued Swoopes was great (or even good), I argued against your belief that a QB had to be 'vocal' and 'demonstrative' on the sideline to be a leader (hence my eye roll to the 'poor body language comment'). Piss all over Swoopes all you want - he was the best we had last season after Ash was lost.
Coincidentally, and this relates to Malik Jeffersons tweet about only going somewhere where you might be developed, it might be argued that Tyrone Swoopes this year was Shawn Watsons best single-season coaching job. He took a kid who was considered a position switch to TE after spring ball and got him ready enough to play QB for the Longhorns.
Here we go again.
I guess "ready to play QB" has a wide spectrum for some. The argument was whether he was improving or not. So in your eyes he improved from his first game to his last? This is where we disagree. As for being a leader, his body language, confidence level was so obviously not there. Watch the hype video in the Texas bowl game thread and tell me your thoughts on leadership on the offense. Swoopes doesnt have it. As much as I hold your opinion in high regard (forgive my eye roll as well ), for you to say the QB doesnt have to be a leader on offense is just funny as hell. I guess the true frosh Mahommes at Tech didnt lead his team to a near upset over Baylor and Murray doesnt lead his Eagles either. We can go on and on, but watch that video with regards to the players and no offensive leadership since VY and Colt and make your point again.
Watson was dealt what he was dealt, since Mack recruited Swoopes not Watson.