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3rd down failures
The key story to this game were 3rd down failures. . . .
There is a reason KSU is ranked #11 (too low) and in the playoff hunt. . .They rank #8 in the nation (and this likely goes up) in 3rd down conversions and #25 in Time of possession. They sustain drives, they keep their D off the field.
They are winning the way CFS wants to win . .. at least that is what he says. We are ranked #107 in 3rd down conversions. But let's face it, Bill Snyder has 12 walkons and 20 Jucos (I'm guessing there is some overlap) in his 2 deep. He has coached them up and just outcoached and out played TEXAS.
This TEXAS team looked like a young inexperienced team in their first road test . .. . .sadly the grades are not good.
Oh wait, it gets worse. . . we had KSU in 3rd and 8 or more 9 times, they converted 4 . ..that's almost half. At least 2 (that I recall) maybe 3 of those were gifts where we had penalties gifting KSU the 3rd down but we also had missed tackles where we had them trapped for loses or gains short of the 1st down and we let them gain the mark. What can you say about Duke Thomas . .. 2 pass interference penalties one moving the ball to the 2 yard line, beaten BADLY on a 3rd and 14 play . ..how you let someone behind you in that situation is unreal. He had 2 of our potential INTs, didn't make a play on either. Another great stop, Duke Thomas with a plus play making a break on the ball to force a punt. . .nope, Naashon Hughes with a really bad hands to the face . . .
Of course we had 3 and 20, Mykelle Thompson doesn't give up the 1st but he does give up 18 which moves KSU from punt range to FG range.
Let's not leave scheme or the staff out of this. . . .our boom or bust run blitz strategy constantly sets up big runs. . .Does Bedford understand the roll of a secondary is to stop other teams from completing passes? Not really sure. . .instead of putting our best DB on their Best WR. .. we'd rather go with man coverage and no help from a guy who has been roasted all year. Rotation? Alex Dunlap writes Deep Dig where he tracks defensive participation. . . Malcom Brown 100% of last weeks snaps, going to be close to that this week, Ridgeway near the same. When the offense isn't sustaining drives, you gotta give those guys a break.
The part that really pisses me off. . . .as many mistakes as our D made. . .they more than played well enough for us to win. They earned a C+ from me, holding KSU to 23 points on the road with ZERO help from their O.
But as I said above, we:
A) Are not very good and
B ) We have no clue how to win
Which sucks because:
C) We have the players to win. . .well some of them
We got shut out. . .really pretty pathetic when you think about how well our O played the past 2 weeks. . .of course they were playing 1st class defenses either and it showed up. Many will be screaming about Watson. . .but then many of our fans wouldn't know football from a winnebego (I shouldn't type this after really UGLY losses). Not that Watson was perfect, he had some bone head moves too. But he dialed up a game that should have given us a chance to win.
Let's talk about the bone heads. ..your best RB is Malcom Brown. . .of your top 3, he got the least carries including not being in the game on a key 4th and 1 .. . . . . .which was a HORRID call by the officials but that simply doubled down on a horrid call by Wickline/Watson. . .not sure who calls the run plays. I will guess that while the Watson haters claimed last week was Wick's play calls. ..they will also claim this week's are Watson's. . .and they know that by body language. . . .BRILLIANT. . ..
Why is Tyronne Swoopes not keeping the ball on zone read plays? Good lord when he did, he ran great. And we see the real nightmare for an OC of a young QB. Vs a weak D like ISU, you can get away with late passes. .. vs a good D, you need to get the ball there on time. Of course after completing two deep passes last week to win the game, Swoopes BADLY underthows one to a wide open ship and another to Marcus Johnson . .both open behind their secondary for TDs. Swoopes was lucky two, at least 2 maybe 3 INTs dropped by KSU. ..but if they could catch, they'd be WRs.
25 pass attempts, 27 run attempts. Not a good ratio on a day where KSU was bring pressure and their secondary actually knows how to play football. But then that total would be higher if Swoopes would keep the ball more on zone reads.
Swoopes was up and down passing, late on reads, he's back to not throwing deep balls out in front of WRs so they can run under them. He was indecisive .. . . and this is compounded by facing a well coached D.
Best drive of the game ends with an odd reverse/fumble. Why are we running a reverse to Ship in the 1st place. . .why not MJ or Amanti Foreman?
OL did not show well ... .is it true, do we have even one projected starter from spring starting today? Wow. . . .not good.
Will come back and post my version of conference rankings later after everyone plays. . . .will be interesting if there are any changes in the top 3. . . . .
As for bowling, TEXAS needs to win 3 of the next 4 . ..we really need to go bowling but today, I'd take the under and say we aren't going. Sucks too cuz an Armed Forces Bowl matchup would be fun
The key story to this game were 3rd down failures. . . .
There is a reason KSU is ranked #11 (too low) and in the playoff hunt. . .They rank #8 in the nation (and this likely goes up) in 3rd down conversions and #25 in Time of possession. They sustain drives, they keep their D off the field.
They are winning the way CFS wants to win . .. at least that is what he says. We are ranked #107 in 3rd down conversions. But let's face it, Bill Snyder has 12 walkons and 20 Jucos (I'm guessing there is some overlap) in his 2 deep. He has coached them up and just outcoached and out played TEXAS.
This TEXAS team looked like a young inexperienced team in their first road test . .. . .sadly the grades are not good.
Oh wait, it gets worse. . . we had KSU in 3rd and 8 or more 9 times, they converted 4 . ..that's almost half. At least 2 (that I recall) maybe 3 of those were gifts where we had penalties gifting KSU the 3rd down but we also had missed tackles where we had them trapped for loses or gains short of the 1st down and we let them gain the mark. What can you say about Duke Thomas . .. 2 pass interference penalties one moving the ball to the 2 yard line, beaten BADLY on a 3rd and 14 play . ..how you let someone behind you in that situation is unreal. He had 2 of our potential INTs, didn't make a play on either. Another great stop, Duke Thomas with a plus play making a break on the ball to force a punt. . .nope, Naashon Hughes with a really bad hands to the face . . .
Of course we had 3 and 20, Mykelle Thompson doesn't give up the 1st but he does give up 18 which moves KSU from punt range to FG range.
Let's not leave scheme or the staff out of this. . . .our boom or bust run blitz strategy constantly sets up big runs. . .Does Bedford understand the roll of a secondary is to stop other teams from completing passes? Not really sure. . .instead of putting our best DB on their Best WR. .. we'd rather go with man coverage and no help from a guy who has been roasted all year. Rotation? Alex Dunlap writes Deep Dig where he tracks defensive participation. . . Malcom Brown 100% of last weeks snaps, going to be close to that this week, Ridgeway near the same. When the offense isn't sustaining drives, you gotta give those guys a break.
The part that really pisses me off. . . .as many mistakes as our D made. . .they more than played well enough for us to win. They earned a C+ from me, holding KSU to 23 points on the road with ZERO help from their O.
But as I said above, we:
A) Are not very good and
B ) We have no clue how to win
Which sucks because:
C) We have the players to win. . .well some of them
We got shut out. . .really pretty pathetic when you think about how well our O played the past 2 weeks. . .of course they were playing 1st class defenses either and it showed up. Many will be screaming about Watson. . .but then many of our fans wouldn't know football from a winnebego (I shouldn't type this after really UGLY losses). Not that Watson was perfect, he had some bone head moves too. But he dialed up a game that should have given us a chance to win.
Let's talk about the bone heads. ..your best RB is Malcom Brown. . .of your top 3, he got the least carries including not being in the game on a key 4th and 1 .. . . . . .which was a HORRID call by the officials but that simply doubled down on a horrid call by Wickline/Watson. . .not sure who calls the run plays. I will guess that while the Watson haters claimed last week was Wick's play calls. ..they will also claim this week's are Watson's. . .and they know that by body language. . . .BRILLIANT. . ..
Why is Tyronne Swoopes not keeping the ball on zone read plays? Good lord when he did, he ran great. And we see the real nightmare for an OC of a young QB. Vs a weak D like ISU, you can get away with late passes. .. vs a good D, you need to get the ball there on time. Of course after completing two deep passes last week to win the game, Swoopes BADLY underthows one to a wide open ship and another to Marcus Johnson . .both open behind their secondary for TDs. Swoopes was lucky two, at least 2 maybe 3 INTs dropped by KSU. ..but if they could catch, they'd be WRs.
25 pass attempts, 27 run attempts. Not a good ratio on a day where KSU was bring pressure and their secondary actually knows how to play football. But then that total would be higher if Swoopes would keep the ball more on zone reads.
Swoopes was up and down passing, late on reads, he's back to not throwing deep balls out in front of WRs so they can run under them. He was indecisive .. . . and this is compounded by facing a well coached D.
Best drive of the game ends with an odd reverse/fumble. Why are we running a reverse to Ship in the 1st place. . .why not MJ or Amanti Foreman?
OL did not show well ... .is it true, do we have even one projected starter from spring starting today? Wow. . . .not good.
Will come back and post my version of conference rankings later after everyone plays. . . .will be interesting if there are any changes in the top 3. . . . .
As for bowling, TEXAS needs to win 3 of the next 4 . ..we really need to go bowling but today, I'd take the under and say we aren't going. Sucks too cuz an Armed Forces Bowl matchup would be fun
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