Trap Dooring

[JimsTexas]

Who all has issues with colleges using the trap door on underperforming scholarship athletes?

Kind of plays to that song only the strong survie. These kids have to learn how to compeate are in the real world they will get eaten alive and be left behind. No one said it was going to be easy are at least they never told me that. If you don't prove yourself you will be trying to support a family on minim wage.

It seems like from the time you learn to walk you are trying to prove you are good enough. We all get knocked to our knees it's those who pick them selves up and fight on who will make it. I was not born into money my parents worked hard 10 and 12 hrs a day 6 and 7 days a week there whole life. I think god those skills were passed down to me and my wife and I passed those skills onto our kids. I am lucky to be were I am but I worked my ass off nothing was never given to me. My friends y'all have a great week.

 

[HornSolo]

I always appreciated the fact that Mack honored schollies for kids in HS that got hurt and could not play anymore. That is a class move.

 

[PureTexan]

An Athletic and an Academic should be the same. If you don’t perform you lose your scholarship

Very apples to oranges. If I'm working my butt off and doing all i can and they recruit a kid that is better and he beats me out, I shouldn't lose it. Now if I'm not working hard enough or have off the field issues, then so be it.
You don't lose your academic scholarship if a kid comes and makes better grades than you. Having competed in a non-revenue sport, you don't have the luxury to stick with kids that aren't producing because of the scholarship limitations, but you can in football. My freshman class started with 27 kids on the team in our class, 4 of us completed our eligibility. Some couldn't cut it and quit but the vast majority were kids that didn't put in the effort and lost their spot.

 

[mammy44]

Does this post have anything to do with a certain coach who has been accused of doing this?

Scholarships are for one year.

mammy

 

[FtBendHorn]

As long as it's communicated to the player, his coach and parents when they are being recruited I don't have an issue with it. Don't promise a 4 year scholarship then pull it after one year.

 

[Topstarr]

Who all has issues with colleges using the trap door on underperforming scholarship athletes?

I have no issues at all. Perform to your best and if you do not then you are gone.......that is life at what ever you do.

 

[The Third Man]

The real world is already stacked against the athletes. It seems like all of this cold eyed, free market stuff only cuts one way with a lot of you. College football coaches can leave any time they want with no penalties. Players usually have to sit out a year if they transfer. Coaches who are fired for underperforming have the remainder of the contracts honored. I think that if a player keeps up with the academic requirements of the university and follows the rules of the team, they should not have their scholarship revoked for not developing as players. Major college football players generate millions of dollars for their universities. Forget the morality of turning college athletics into *more* of a sharecropping system, I think it would be counter-productive. I think that if you make it a policy that your university offers scholarships on a year to year basis in college football, then your recruiting will ultimately be hurt.

 

[3xhorndad]

Very apples to oranges. If I'm working my butt off and doing all i can and they recruit a kid that is better and he beats me out, I shouldn't lose it. Now if I'm not working hard enough or have off the field issues, then so be it.
You don't lose your academic scholarship if a kid comes and makes better grades than you. Having competed in a non-revenue sport, you don't have the luxury to stick with kids that aren't producing because of the scholarship limitations, but you can in football. My freshman class started with 27 kids on the team in our class, 4 of us completed our eligibility. Some couldn't cut it and quit but the vast majority were kids that didn't put in the effort and lost their spot.

Exactly...

Guys. we are talking about bad attitudes, undisciplined classroom attendance, and poor effort on and off the field...These guys are cancer to the program and must be weeded out and sent packing...

The kids who are putting in the effort but are just not good enough are valuable members of the team for practices and support of the guys on the field. Hell, only 11 can be out there at a time ..These should be able to remain part of the team....

Attitude and Effort are what we are talking about....

 

[Baghorn]

Exactly...
Guys. we are talking about bad attitudes, undisciplined classroom attendance, and poor effort on and off the field...These guys are cancer to the program and must be weeded out and sent packing...

The kids who are putting in the effort but are just not good enough are valuable members of the team for practices and support of the guys on the field. Hell, only 11 can be out there at a time ..These should be able to remain part of the team....

Attitude and Effort are what we are talking about....

I disagree, attitude and effort is why you have walk-on's. The scholarship kids are there to produce and if they don't produce they have not earned their scholarship....end of story. DKR ran the program with a similar philosophy and it was very effective. This is just how it is at the elite level of this sport when hundreds of millions of dollars or more are on the line. If you want participation ribbons for trying then you're in the wrong place.

 

[Hooverhog]

I was thinking of how to word my opinion and you hit the nail on the head horndad...good post.

 

[Darrell McPhaul]

Question here. How is it different on what Saban does compared to Augie?