The UT Boo-Hoo

[TheContractor]

Coach Strong has barely gotten started and we have this arrogant group of fans that actually believe they know more about football than our new coach.
Its amazing, they already see him as having failed and we havent even had a practice yet.

I just think we need to have some faith in the guy. There is certainly a chance he may fail BUT, the guys on the message boards certainly know far less about coaching than he does.

Let him set the tone and set up his program.

In a year or two we will likely know if it will work.

ok then, no reason to log on to HS or any other website to talk about UT football for a couple of years until you see how it plays out. Goodbye.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Coach Strong has barely gotten started and we have this arrogant group of fans that actually believe they know more about football than our new coach.
Its amazing, they already see him as having failed and we havent even had a practice yet.

I just think we need to have some faith in the guy. There is certainly a chance he may fail BUT, the guys on the message boards certainly know far less about coaching than he does.

Let him set the tone and set up his program.

In a year or two we will likely know if it will work.

It doesn't make one "arrogant" to say they believe they see some obvious warning signs. Most on this message board know far less than Charlie Weis, but that doesn't mean we are arrogant if we say we don't think Kansas is going to be much of a threat next year.

 

[lahorns]

All this whining and pouting is about not getting the HC they wanted. Most of these guys want Strong to fail so they can say I told you so. We did not have a OC last yr. we had two, the year before that two and I did not hear the whining then.

 

[DocHorn]

It doesn't make one "arrogant" to say they believe they see some obvious warning signs. Most on this message board know far less than Charlie Weis, but that doesn't mean we are arrogant if we say we don't think Kansas is going to be much of a threat next year.

You have seen Charlies record at Kansas, and after all, KU is a tough place to be successful.

Coach Strong has been here a little over a week and it appears you have written his history for him as a UT coach, ie miserable fail, or am I missing something.

What about his past as a HC or as a DC makes you think he has or will fail?

 

[Tulsahorn]

The tow-the-line/brow beating posts need to stop. There seem to be a dozen or so people on this site who have made it their mission in life to try and stifle any criticism of the program.
Yes it's too early to pass final judgment on the CS era at Texas. But it's never too early for fans to discuss and debate what's going on.

If it bothers you then steer clear of the "whining" threads.

And there are 3 dozen who have made it their mission in life to criticize a coach with absolutely no information whatsoever on the process withing 2 weeks of his hire.

If the people who point this out bothers you, steer clear of those threads.

 

[SoTexHorn]

Of course Texas fans will give CCS a chance before melting down.... wait. No, we're not like aggys and pouting, boo-hooing and throwing temper tantrums..... wait. We're TEXAS; we're Strong; and we're in no way entitled or soft.... wait.....????

 

[Slwilliam]

And there are 3 dozen who have made it their mission in life to criticize a coach with absolutely no information whatsoever on the process withing 2 weeks of his hire.
If the people who point this out bothers you, steer clear of those threads.

Exactly. Never claimed charlie the second coming of Saban nor condemned him as terrible. In tired of hearing this staff can't formulate an offensive game plan. There are TWO offensive coordinators with Watson and les. Watson is the one that has coached the bcs win two years ago against number 3 Florida and that defense. Yet he can't formulate a plan because the message board guru whose probably never played pass high school says so. The fact that people go back to Watson's Nebraska days but skip over louisville success is dumb. Players get better and coaches also can get better. Nfl teams want him to call plays but out fan base doesn't cause his isn't a "homerun"

Homerun = a guy we hear about on espn. The easy lazy hire that I don't have to research or use critical thinking to figure out how they would fit in system.

 

[littlejon82]

Exactly. Never claimed charlie the second coming of Saban nor condemned him as terrible. In tired of hearing this staff can't formulate an offensive game plan. There are TWO offensive coordinators with Watson and les. Watson is the one that has coached the bcs win two years ago against number 3 Florida and that defense. Yet he can't formulate a plan because the message board guru whose probably never played pass high school says so. The fact that people go back to Watson's Nebraska days but skip over louisville success is dumb. Players get better and coaches also can get better. Nfl teams want him to call plays but out fan base doesn't cause his isn't a "homerun"

Homerun = a guy we hear about on espn. The easy lazy hire that I don't have to research or use critical thinking to figure out how they would fit in system.

What NFL teams want him to call plays? I haven't heard of any. His style of offense is antithical to what TX hs offenses are running. We're already struggling enough in recruiting, and Strong brings in two guys that apparently no one else wants and you don't see that as even a slight cause for concern? In the end, we fanatics on the message boards have no say, but that doesn't prohibit us from voicing our concerns on the direction of the offense (or lack there of).

 

[armadillo slim]

we hired strong to coach the team. get behind this group of gentlemen now and pull like a team. we're all in this together. if you want to bitch and whine, go elsewhere.

good post, Blake.

 

[Tulsahorn]

What NFL teams want him to call plays? I haven't heard of any. His style of offense is antithical to what TX hs offenses are running. We're already struggling enough in recruiting, and Strong brings in two guys that apparently no one else wants and you don't see that as even a slight cause for concern? In the end, we fanatics on the message boards have no say, but that doesn't prohibit us from voicing our concerns on the direction of the offense (or lack there of).

Saban has recruited pretty well with his offense.

We recruited well the entire time Leach was at Tech.

It's the winning that counts.

 

[buice77]

Don't think coach Strong has hired a OC yet think about it 9 assistant coaches can be on the field but how many are in the press box 3-4. So I think he was feeling out his position coaches and now he's working on the OC. There's a chance 2 of them get hire in the NFL. That's just my opinion and I'm not seeing anything posted anywhere that Texas has a OC. ESPN is posting every time someone hires a DC and OC. Nothing on Texas. That's my opinion on this situation.

 

[armadillo slim]

The tow-the-line/brow beating posts need to stop. There seem to be a dozen or so people on this site who have made it their mission in life to try and stifle any criticism of the program.
Yes it's too early to pass final judgment on the CS era at Texas. But it's never too early for fans to discuss and debate what's going on.

If it bothers you then steer clear of the "whining" threads.

ok, i'm trying to completely understand the rules. its ok for you to bitch and whine about things you don't like but its not ok if some of us like to bitch and whine about things we don't like? that about it?

Ok, noted. will likely ignore, but it IS noted.

 

[Randolph Duke]

You have seen Charlies record at Kansas, and after all, KU is a tough place to be successful.
Coach Strong has been here a little over a week and it appears you have written his history for him as a UT coach, ie miserable fail, or am I missing something.

What about his past as a HC or as a DC makes you think he has or will fail?

Why not go all the way past hyperbole and straight to attributing direct quotes that were never said? You aren't missing anything, you are fabricating things out of whole cloth. I haven't said a thing that would lead anyone to reasonably conclude I have written his history. I never said a thing about him failing. What I said was that nothing about the offensive staff he has built leads me to believe he has identified a leader as Offensive Coordinator of the team. I said our offensive staff does not seem to be built around any identifiable overall offensive structure. I also have said none of his hires has proven in the past they can consistently scheme or game plan against high level defenses or has shown the ability to consistently out-smart VERY proven defensive strategists. If I am wrong on any of these points, tell me where.

I'm just not convinced Watson, Wickline or Koenning have proven they are unquestionably among the best and most accomplished offensive coordinators in the business. It doesn't make me arrogant or defeatist to say Coach Strong didn't hire a very impressive offensive staff. An adequate staff, yes. Clearly and convincingly elite? Not even close. Can I name 20 individuals I would feel have accomplished more as OC than any of the guys we hired? Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Bevostuntdouble]

Nice try, but without a strategist who has proven their ability to lead the offense of a major program, we have reason to be concerned when our schedule includes a number of teams whose coaches have repeatedly proven their ability to shut even powerful offensive schemes. Snyder, Gundy, Stoops, even Briles are going to find a way to score against our defense and they most likely are going to give any offense fits. Right now, we seem to be somewhat lost, looking for an answer on offense to somehow just appear. There is no media spokesperson for the program, discussing how the various moves make sense in the world of Charlie Strong. Coach Strong evidently isn't the type of coach who builds a warm rapport with the fanbase. We probably aren't going to get any connection with the team until well after the season starts and we see results. In the mean time, we have to judge what we see on how we see it. Personally, I don't see an overall offensive strategy and I don't see anything to make me think we have the answer to what Snyder, Stoops, Gundy, Briles, Patterson or Jim Mora are going to put up against us to keep us from scoring.

Exactly! I support Strong 100% individually but I am not a fan of some of his hires... Last time we took a DC from miss state we had some of the worst D's in our history and now we've brought in their OC?! An OC who had the 9th best offense in the sec. I don't like that hire. The rest I will wait to see on but the OC from miss st should not come to ut in any capacity. IMO.

 

[BevoBlake]

Exactly! I support Strong 100% individually but I am not a fan of some of his hires... Last time we took a DC from miss state we had some of the worst D's in our history and now we've brought in their OC?! An OC who had the 9th best offense in the sec. I don't like that hire. The rest I will wait to see on but the OC from miss st should not come to ut in any capacity. IMO.

But see, you've presented your opinion in a respectable manner. You don't have to be a fan of his hires. Just don't make some bold claim that they don't know what they're doing or that they've already failed like many others are doing. I'd never suggest that people can't have a negative opinion in relation to a decision. But to claim said decision is a failure before it's ever been granted an opportunity to prove itself is asinine.

 

[derpyhorndog]

I find it odd that people are complaining about other people complaining on an internet message board. Forums like these are almost entirely for people to discuss football, their personal views and opinions on the team, and conduct friendly debate, criticism, and analysis. If no one here is qualified in the area of football enough for it to be acceptable for them to scrutinize these hires before we see the on the field product, then 99.9% of us shouldn't be on the forums then. If you don't like what people have to say, then ignore them or avoid the thread entirely.

Get off your high horse and quit acting like engaging in analysis, whether positive or negative, of this coaching search is somehow "wrong" or you somehow need qualifications to conduct it. Policing the message boards telling people not to do something the boards are specifically setup to do is more annoying than the very thing you're complaining about.

 

[Blue Horn]

We just put together the worst O staff in modern Texas history when we could have had one of the best ever. Strong will be gone in 3 years.

 

[Slwilliam]

But see, you've presented your opinion in a respectable manner. You don't have to be a fan of his hires. Just don't make some bold claim that they don't know what they're doing or that they've already failed like many others are doing. I'd never suggest that people can't have a negative opinion in relation to a decision. But to claim said decision is a failure before it's ever been granted an opportunity to prove itself is asinine.

Exactly

 

[Slwilliam]

We just put together the worst O staff in modern Texas history when we could have had one of the best ever. Strong will be gone in 3 years.

This type of stuff. Smh

 

[Bevostuntdouble]

But see, you've presented your opinion in a respectable manner. You don't have to be a fan of his hires. Just don't make some bold claim that they don't know what they're doing or that they've already failed like many others are doing. I'd never suggest that people can't have a negative opinion in relation to a decision. But to claim said decision is a failure before it's ever been granted an opportunity to prove itself is asinine.

The only hire I have a huge problem with is the miss st OC. I believe in Strong and that he will do what needs to be done. I think he is EXACTLY what the program needed. But miss st is not a good football program and to bring in their OC as wr coach makes zero sense. Can you name a recent miss st wr that stood out? I can't. But I can tell you miss st doesn't have a good O or program as a whole! No idea why we keep drawing from that well. I'll always keep it respectable. Only aholes don't. Haha