The roster (last 5 recruiting classes)

[utisdabomb12]

Here's the fundamental problem if you ask me. The roster simply isn't good. Outside of the '15 class there really isn't much of all. A few pieces in the '12 and '14 classes but that's about it. 

'11 class:
Malcolm Brown (gone)
Edmond (gone)
Jackson (good player, but not great)
Flowers (terrible)
Diggs (gone)
Turner (gone)
Shipley (gone)
Evans (hasn't been healthy in years)
Reed (gone)
Greenlea (gone)
Thompson (gone)
Thompson (gone)
Scott (gone)
Cochran (gone)
Ash (gone)
Mcfarland (gone)
Onyegbule (gone)
Bergeron (gone)
Moss (gone)
Hutchins (LMAO, TERRIBLE)
Doyle (LMAO, TERRIBLE)

-So out of the '11 class we essentially only have one player that's pretty good for us this year (Tank Jackson)

'12 class:
Gray (pretty good player but hasn't lived up to his 5 star rating at all)
Brown (gone)
Estelle (gone)
Riser (gone)
Jones (gone)
Davis (pretty good player. hasn't been spectacular but far from a bust)
Sanders (gone)
Jinkens (terrible)
Hughes (gone)
Colbert (3rd string behind a FR and SO).
Thomas (pretty good player, but not great)
Brewer (gone)
Echols (3 string behind 2 FR)
Johnson (I won't call him a bust, but it's close)
Santos (terrible)
Cole (terrible)
Ridgeway (very good player when healthy)
Boyette (decent player but nothing special)
Overstreet (gone)
Norman (hasn't done anything)
Hawkins (gone)
Bluiett (not great but he's had to move positions almost every year)
De La Torre (very good blocker IMO)
Moore (gone)
Cotrrell (decent player, nothing great)
Jordan (terrible)
Ashby (gone)

-So out of the '12 class really the only players that I would say are "maybe" above average are Gray, Davis, Thomas, Rideway and De La Torre. It's probably a stretch on Thomas, Gray, and De La Torre to be honest. I do like De La Torre though.

'13 class
James (gone)
Perkins (average at best)
Raulerson (2nd string behind Taylor Doyle, yep)
Davis (gone)
Davis (2nd string behind a RS FR, and looks like about to be 3rd string behind Kris Boyd)
Oliver (terrible)
Swoopes (no comment)
Warrick (hasn't done a thing his entire career)
Hammad (gone)
Harrison (gone)
Collins (gone)
Huhn (gone)
Hughes (pretty good player)
Swaim (gone)
Meander (gone)

-So out of the '13 class the only player that is probably above average for us this year is Hughes. Raulerson might have some potential soon.

'14 class:
Roberson (has potential, but hasn't done anything yet)
Heard (hasn't beaten out Swoopes yet)
Armanti Foreman (starting to think he's overrated but doesn't have a QB at the moment)
Freeman (looks to be a pretty good player)
Joe (won't surprise me if transfers out)
Catalon (gone)
Bonney (has some potential)
Ford (good player)
Bernard (meh)
Whiteley (won't really judge him, injury prone so far)
Beck (nothing special at all)
Hampton (gone)
Leonard (meh)
Cuney (terrible)
Gray (transfer candidate)
McMillon (I actually think he has some potential)
Nelson (has some potential)
Hall (good player)
Anderson (potential)
Foreman (good player, but hasn't done much yet)
Rodriguez (project)

-There's some potential in the '14 class, but it's just that potential. I think Roberson, Foreman, Freeman, Bonney, Ford, Nelson, and Hall all have the ability to be pretty good players eventually.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Your disparaging "LMAO Terrible" reviews for Doyle, Hutchins, and Flowers would be more persuasive and meaningful if backed up with game film cut-ups and examples.

What say you, Coleman Feeley?

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

Your disparaging "LMAO Terrible" reviews for Doyle, Hutchins, and Flowers would be more persuasive and meaningful if backed up with game film cut-ups and examples.

What say you, Coleman Feeley?

I wish I had cut-ups to demonstrate - but after rewatching the game it was pretty clear that Doyle was our worst OL versus Notre Dame.  The fact he's even starting speaks to how little depth there is on the OL.

Doyle spent more time on the ground than our QB's.  It was bad.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Your disparaging "LMAO Terrible" reviews for Doyle, Hutchins, and Flowers would be more persuasive and meaningful if backed up with game film cut-ups and examples.

What say you, Coleman Feeley?

Hutchins can't beat out a true freshman on the offensive line. His performance last year was absolutely dreadful. I have a little sympathy for Hutchins because he moved to the OL out of necessity. 

Doyle was easily the worst OL in the ND game. Poor dude got abused. Like the above poster said, Doyle was on the ground more than he was actually blocking. This is actually our weakest link on the OL if you ask me. Absolutely no push on the interior of the OL. When your center is blown back 2 or 3 yards, it's going to be rough (just like it was Saturday). 

Flowers is probably the best out of the three, but that isn't saying much. All in all, the tackles weren't terrible against ND. They made some mistakes but it was the interior part of the line that was atrocious. 

I wasn't trying to be "disparaging". It's the honest truth, they are terrible. I have more faith in 243 pound De La Torre throwing a block than Hutchins, Flowers or Doyle. I don't think it's an effort thing for all 3 either, they just aren't talented. 

 

[utisdabomb12]

I wish I had cut-ups to demonstrate - but after rewatching the game it was pretty clear that Doyle was our worst OL versus Notre Dame.  The fact he's even starting speaks to how little depth there is on the OL.

Doyle spent more time on the ground than our QB's.  It was bad.

Doyle seems like a good guy too. Just doesn't have it from a talent perspective. Poor guy had to be demoralized after being abused like he was Saturday. I wish I had cut-ups to demonstrate too, because it was ugly. 

It's probably hyperbole at times to use the phrase "aren't D1 players", but it's true with Hutchins and Doyle. 

 

[utisdabomb12]

This is the best way I can sum up the lack of talent on this roster. 

In game 1 on the road against a top 10 ten team, Strong played 15 true FR. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Your disparaging "LMAO Terrible" reviews for Doyle, Hutchins, and Flowers would be more persuasive and meaningful if backed up with game film cut-ups and examples.

What say you, Coleman Feeley?

I forget which site it was on but I saw a video of one play from the ND game where the guys Doyle and Flowers were trying to block blow right by them and Doyle and Flowers end up running into each other chest to chest. Pretty pathetic. And while watching the game, also saw Flowers just end up standing around by himself during plays. Don't remember watching Doyle much, but if he is worse than Flowers, Raulerson needs to be playing.   

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I wish I had cut-ups to demonstrate - but after rewatching the game it was pretty clear that Doyle was our worst OL versus Notre Dame.  The fact he's even starting speaks to how little depth there is on the OL.

Doyle spent more time on the ground than our QB's.  It was bad.

I'll have to watch it again.

I need to learn how to use "Tube Chop" or a cut-up app. We know the O-Line had a bad night, but how bad? Dan Neil said they were better than they were against TCU & Arky.

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

This is a nice cut-up of Connor Williams pancakes.  Kid made some mistakes - but you can see how much potnetial is there.

http://gfycat.com/UnsteadyPolishedAlaskajingle

 

[hoskins5]

I wish this kind of information was more publicized across Longhorn nation. Mack truly left us in such a hole, its going to take another 2 recruiting classes just to get back to normal. Looking at the 2012 and 2013 classes(which should be our backbone right now) they are scary bad. I'm not going to rest totally on the "Mack screwed us" claim, but it is obvious it does and will play a factor in our success/failure.

I really don't know why this isn't talked about more. SMH those last 4 classes were terrible.

 

[utisdabomb12]

I'll have to watch it again.

I need to learn how to use "Tube Chop" or a cut-up app. We know the O-Line had a bad night, but how bad? Dan Neil said they were better than they were against TCU & Arky.

I thought Williams played well. I also don't think Perkins was terrible. Perkins made some mistakes but it wasn't on the level of Doyle and Flowers. 

Like I said above, the tackles weren't bad. It was the interior part of the line that was the problem. 

The staff doesn't have a lot of options but I still think it's best to move Perkins back to guard. Granted, Perkins is probably our best option at RT right now. 

I would roll with Williams, Perkins, Raulerson, Vahe and no clue at RT. I guess you could stick with Doyle at center and try Raulerson at RT. I would try and put Williams and Perkins together on one side of the line. 

 

[Hiphopopotamos]

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[North Texas Golfer]

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This is the play I was talking about in my above post. Good lord, watch Flowers on this play! The only player he touches, or tries to block, is Doyle.