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The Alamo falls

echeese

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After 12 days of siege and cannonade, Santa Anna orders his 2,500-3,000 man army to attack before dawn.  The battle would last approx 90 minutes and at the end, all defenders were killed.   One Tejano defender reportedly escaped execution claiming to have been a prisoner.

Santa Anna burns the bodies as a show of disrespect, his records show 182 while reports claim the number as high as 250.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO. . . .

Some claim 5-10 defenders were captured, brought before Santa Anna and executed including Davy Crockett .. . and for some reason this causes controversy. . .not sure why. . . . but always enjoyed this scene from the 2004 movie The Alamo


 
After 12 days of siege and cannonade, Santa Anna orders his 2,500-3,000 man army to attack before dawn.  The battle would last approx 90 minutes and at the end, all defenders were killed.   One Tejano defender reportedly escaped execution claiming to have been a prisoner.

Santa Anna burns the bodies as a show of disrespect, his records show 182 while reports claim the number as high as 250.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO. . . .

Some claim 5-10 defenders were captured, brought before Santa Anna and executed including Davy Crockett .. . and for some reason this causes controversy. . .not sure why. . . . but always enjoyed this scene from the 2004 movie The Alamo

Texas history is so colorful...too bad so much of it has to involve a lot of brave men dying!  But that's the way it was.

Great post, echeese, thanks. There have been several movies made about "The Alamo"; I consider the 2003 Billy Bob

Thornton version to be the most historically accurate.

 
REMEMBER THE ALAMO. . . .

Some claim 5-10 defenders were captured, brought before Santa Anna and executed including Davy Crockett .. . and for some reason this causes controversy. . .not sure why. . . . but always enjoyed this scene from the 2004 movie The Alamo
Those claims of Crockett's later execution before Santa Anna are dispelled by the eye witness account of the Acalde (mayor) of San Antonio, Francisco Antonio Ruiz… who personally showed Crockett's body to Santa Anna.

This is one story that Hollywood does not need to embellish, IMO. 

 
Fall of the Alamo, and Massacre of Travis and His Brave Associates
by Francisco Antonio Ruiz​
Translated by J. A. Quintero​
 
On the 6th of March at 3 a.m. General Santa Anna at the head of 4000 men, advanced against the Alamo. The infantry, artillery and cavalry had formed about 1000 varas from the walls of said fortress.
 
The Mexican army charged and were twice repulsed by the deadly fire of Travis' artillery, which resembled a constant thunder. At the third charge the Toluca battalion commenced to scale the walls and suffered severely. Out of 800 men, only 130 were left alive.
 
When the Mexican army had succeeded in entering the walls, I with Political Chief (Jefe Politico) Don Ramon Musquiz, and other members of the corporation, accompanied the curate Don Refugio de la Garza, who, by Santa Anna's orders had assembled during the night, at a temporary fortification erected in Potrero Street, with the object of attending the wounded.
 
As soon as the storming commenced, we crossed the bridge on Commerce Street with this object in view, and about 100 yards from the same a party of Mexican dragoons fired upon us and compelled us to fall back on the river to the place occupied before.
 
Half an hour had elapsed when Santa Anna sent one of his aides with an order for us to come before him. He directed me to call upon some of the neighbors to come with carts to carry the dead to the cemetery, and also to accompany him, as he was desirous to have Colonels Travis, Bowie and Crockett shown to him.
 
On the north battery of the fortress lay the lifeless body of Colonel Travis on the gun carriage shot only in the forehead.
 
Toward the west in a small fort opposite the city we found the body of Colonel Crockett.
 
Colonel Bowie was found dead in his bed in one of the rooms of the south side.
 
Santa Anna, after the Mexicans were taken out, ordered wood to be brought to burn the bodies of the Texans. He sent a company of dragoons with me to bring wood and dry branches from the neighboring forests.
 
About 3 o'clock in the afternoon of the next day they commenced laying wood and dry branches upon which a file of dead bodies were placed, more wood was piled on them and another file brought, and in this manner all were arranged in layers. Kindling wood was distributed through the pile and at 8 o'clock it was lighted.
 
The dead Mexicans of Santa Anna's army were taken to the graveyard, but not having sufficient room for them, I ordered some of them to be thrown in the river, which was done on the same day. Santa Anna's loss estimated at 1600 men. These were the flower of his army.
 
The gallantry of the few Texans who defended the Alamo were really wondered at by the Mexican army. Even the generals were astonished at their vigorous resistance, and how dearly the victory had been bought.
 
The generals who, under Santa Anna, participated in the storming of the Alamo were Juan Amador, Castrillion Ramirez and Asesma Andrade.
 
The men burned numbered 182. I was an eye witness, for as Alcalde of San Antonio, I was with some of the neighbors collecting the dead bodies and placing them on the funeral pyre.
 
(Signed) Francisco Antonio Ruiz
 
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Years ago I read a report from a Mexican officer that was at the Alamo who claims they found Crockett and several others hiding under beds. As you can imagine, this did not set well with the Texan historians. I myself like Billy Bob's version, which is pretty bad arse!

 
The problem with the Mayor's report is there were only 1400 actual attackers as he kept the rest in reserve. . . 1600 "losses" (even if you include the wounded, many of whom would die of those wounds) is pretty far fetched.

300-500 is a more likely figure though that would still put a significant dent in his army.

Where Crockett fell is largely moot to me. . .he died defending the Alamo. . . . .and I enjoyed the 2004 version and appreciated their attention to historical detail.

 
Years ago I read a report from a Mexican officer that was at the Alamo who claims they found Crockett and several others hiding under beds.
I have a very hard time even imaging Davy Crockett hiding under a bed… much less believing it.

Where Crockett fell is largely moot to me. . .he died defending the Alamo. . . . .and I enjoyed the 2004 version and appreciated their attention to historical detail.
Agreed.

 
As to movies about The Alamo...the John Wayne 1960 version...I read that the Hollywood people financing

the movie notified Wayne that the production costs had overrun and they were pulling out of finishing

the movie. Wayne stated he would complete production of the movie and pay for it himself. He stated

"he owed it to the people of Texas to do it right." Wayne actually went bankrupt finishing the movie.

The movie did not fare well at the box office...but I have always appreciated The Duke's attitude about

doing it right for the people of Texas. Richard Widmark played a mean Jim Bowie too.

 
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Watching either movie makes me proud to be a Texan.

The John Wayne version has a very, very nice theme song called "The Green Leaves of Summer." It makes a really good backdrop during the movie and during certain scenes.

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As to movies about The Alamo...the John Wayne 1960 version...I read that the Hollywood people financing

the movie notified Wayne that the production costs had overrun and they were pulling out of finishing

the movie. Wayne stated he would complete production of the movie and pay for it himself. He stated

"he owed it to the people of Texas to do it right." Wayne actually went bankrupt finishing the movie.

The movie did not fare well at the box office...but I have always appreciated The Duke's attitude about

doing it right for the people of Texas. Richard Widmark played a mean Jim Bowie too.
Did not know that about The Duke. Awesome attitude. Since read he also produced and directed the movie. Total commitment.
The Alamo was the 3rd movie I ever saw at a movie theater... after Old Yeller and Run Silent Run Deep. Still clearly remember the feeling after watching it walking out of the Tower Theater in downtown Dallas.

I remember the Tower Theater feeling huge. Since read it had over 1,200 seats. Sure don't make 'em like they used to.

 
Cleveland Wyatt Lyon, a resident of Georgia before the Alamo, heard about the land in Texas and that you would be rewarded with land if you came to fight for Texas.

So he came, his family coming behind him in a wagon train arriving later. He fought under Gen Sam Houston and helped defeat the Mexicans at San Jacinto. Cleveland Wyatt Lyon received 600 acres of land in Leon County after the war. However, he died three years later and the family moved to eastern Texas where it was safer from the Comanches.

 
I didn't say I agreed with the report, I just read it.

If you're going to die, going out like Billy Bob did is a cool way to go!

 
I didn't say I agreed with the report, I just read it.

If you're going to die, going out like Billy Bob did is a cool way to go!
Well, being bayoneted to death doesn't sound like a "cool" way to die...but I think you were referring to his utter defiance and courage in the

face of sure death..."I better warn you guys...I'M A SCREAMER!!" All

that after offering the terms of surrender to Santa Anna!

 
Cleveland Wyatt Lyon, a resident of Georgia before the Alamo, heard about the land in Texas and that you would be rewarded with land if you came to fight for Texas.
 So he came, his family coming behind him in a wagon train arriving later. He fought under Gen Sam Houston and helped defeat the Mexicans at San Jacinto. Cleveland Wyatt Lyon received 600 acres of land in Leon County after the war. However, he died three years later and the family moved to eastern Texas where it was safer from the Comanches.

SHA, you sure know a lot about this Mr. Lyon and his family...just curious, was he an

ancestor of yours?

 
So he came, his family coming behind him in a wagon train arriving later. He fought under Gen Sam Houston and helped defeat the Mexicans at San Jacinto. Cleveland Wyatt Lyon received 600 acres of land in Leon County after the war. However, he died three years later and the family moved to eastern Texas where it was safer from the Comanches.

SHA, you sure know a lot about this Mr. Lyon and his family...just curious, was he an

ancestor of yours?

Yes, he was. Just finished tracing my "Lyon" family tree back to the year 1100. Was almost like taking a long, long trip. Every step was simply fascinating.

 
So, your ancestor fought at the Battle of San Jacinto on April 21, 1836? The battle for

Texas independence from Mexico? That's pretty big time in Texas history. That's BIG

TIME, dont know how to reply to that. I'm grateful for what those brave souls did on

April 21, 1836, winning our independence.

 
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