Saban Info

[Thiggystyle]

Anyways, I play in the men's soccer league here in Austin and a very very high up in Alabama athletic department also has a son that plays in this league.

Yo, I've been playing in the men's league for years. FCaustin02 - O30P

It is entertaining to hear all sides of the situation, so thanks for sharing. Work takes me to AL from time to time and without a professional sports team of any kind to follow the people of Alabama are either Auburn or Alabama fans and they follow it closely. I like to tease some of my clients about the possible move of Sabanand I get mixed reactions. Some laugh at me and list some of the reasons you state, while others are resigned to almost anger. The truth of the matter is that nobody except for Nick Saban, possibly Terry, and his agent Sexton REALLY knows what is going to happen. Hell, they may not even know at this point. Saban seems like the kind of guy who may not reach a decision until the 11th hour - following the Championship game or following a loss that knocks BAMA out of one.

Again, thanks for posting a different perspective.

 

[Thiggystyle]

I would pay attention, very heavy attention. to Todd Graham. No rumors through contacts. Just his resume'. A young candidate that already knows how to recruit in Texas. Throw win-loss record and his jumping ship every 15 minutes of it. Texas is a destination job. He would never leave unless forced out. That might be your guy. Look at the resume, look at his success. Not a the "name" that Texas fan want but it might make the most logical sense. Logic does not normally apply with a fan base, however.

Texas will not hire someone without an established name, and that comes with the resume.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

I'd have a list of people I'd rather have coaching here than Graham. He just rubs me the wrong way. That said, he has done a good job at places he's stayed at for more than a year and he's the guy who gave Chad Morris his first college gig.

If we don't look NFL head coaches and Saban and Meyer and Briles are out here's who I would look at just of the top of my head before Graham.

Jimbo Fisher

Charlie Strong

Kirby Smart

Chad Morris

Gary Andersen

Tim DeRuyter

Gus Malzahn

Hugh Freeze

 

[SanTexHorn]

If Saban turns the job down, I'll take Morris or Malzahn.

 

[Topstarr]

I'd have a list of people I'd rather have coaching here than Graham. He just rubs me the wrong way. That said, he has done a good job at places he's stayed at for more than a year and he's the guy who gave Chad Morris his first college gig.
If we don't look NFL head coaches and Saban and Meyer and Briles are out here's who I would look at just of the top of my head before Graham.

Jimbo Fisher

Charlie Strong

Kirby Smart

Chad Morris

Gary Andersen

Tim DeRuyter

Gus Malzahn

Hugh Freeze

I WILL take Saban and if not then Gary Anderson

 

[RealtorHorn]

I would expect everyone associated with Alabama to think Saban is staying put. They may be more in the dark than we UT fans are!

 

[LongviewLobo01]

If Saban turns the job down, I'll take Morris or Malzahn.

The issue with Morris is the fact that so many people have mentioned how he's an aggy through and through and that if the aggy job ever came open that is his dream job and he could leave for that. It may not be true, but that is a major concern.

I'd definitely take Malzahn in a heartbeat though. He's put up offensive numbers everywhere he's been and has turned an Auburn program around from a 3 win unit to 10 this year and counting in the big, bad SEC. You can't argue his success.

The biggest question about Malzahn and Andersen is that both of them have only been at their current jobs for one season and may not want to leave so quickly. But Texas is a special gig.

 

[Shaunsters]

Morris would take the Texas job in a heartbeat. No questions asked. He wouldn't leave for AM either unless he was being forced out here.

I hate when people talk so much about his AM ties. Trust me on this one, he would take the job

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Morris would take the Texas job in a heartbeat. No questions asked. He wouldn't leave for AM either unless he was being forced out here.
I hate when people talk so much about his AM ties. Trust me on this one, he would take the job

Good stuff. I don't think that we'd look at someone without HC experience, but if we miss on the "big name" guys I wouldn't mind Morris one bit, especially if he were able to hire a top notch staff around him. Spend less money up front on the HC and more on the assistants and we'd be set.

 

[Austinhorn1]

Again, I am no insider, nor do I pretend to be. I was just passing along the only info I have on the situation. I for one have been calling for Brown to set aside so that Texas can get a coach who can coach a team well and not accept some of the mediocrity that has plagued the program for several years now. To my dis-credit, I thought Harsin was going to do a lot better at UT. Unfortunately that was not the case and now, I just want a coach to come in and win back the fans through hard work and an entertaining product on the field that the UT nation can be proud of.

The only reason I want Saban is I think he would do the same for Texas that he did for Alabama in terms of national prominence.

Now that Dodds is out as head of the athletics department, I put my full trust in Patterson to go out and get the best man for the job.

 

[BevoBlake]

Morris would take the Texas job in a heartbeat. No questions asked. He wouldn't leave for AM either unless he was being forced out here.
I hate when people talk so much about his AM ties. Trust me on this one, he would take the job

Respectfully, I disagree. I'm not saying you don't know your stuff, you have far more inside information than I ever will. And I think everything you bring to the table is very valid and viable information. But I'm one of those who have been speaking about Chad's allegiance to A&M and I don't do so without any cause. I knew Morris personally for many years back when he was coaching High School ball. I mean, day to day conversation. While I have no doubt he'd take the Texas job if it was offered to him, I fully believe he'd consider leaving for A&M if the opportunity and pay presented itself. We had conversations about him coaching at Texas A&M and he was very candid about his desire for that to be his end game in those conversations. Now I'm not saying that things don't change overtime and things very well could have changed since the last time I had the opportunity to talk with him. But he was very open and forthcoming about his deep love and allegiance for his alma-mater. There is a lot to be said about money and resources but there is also a lot to be said about loyalty. It's easy for us to sit back and think that Texas is and should be the ultimate dream job for every coach out there. But that isn't going to be the case for everyone. If Morris has the choice to coach TAMU or Texas this off-season, I truly believe based off of our conversations and what I know of the man, that he'll choose TAMU.

 

[orangeman01]

I am one who does not think think Saban comes to Texas with that said if he was to leave Texas would be a likely destination. I find it funny not ONE Bama insider/fan thinks he would leave Bama. I think they have developed a certain arrogance that I feel has led to Texas being in the shape it's in now.

I don't think it's arrogance. It's the fact that this is an old story only being perpetuated by insiders with their own agendas. If there was any contact with us at this point they would be in a frenzy and really scared.the op hit the nail on the head.

 

[Shaunsters]

Bevo Blake- understand your point. But also what if Morris already let people know he would love the Texas job. Even if it's a pipedream. Like I said he wouldn't turn it down

 

[BevoBlake]

Bevo Blake- understand your point. But also what if Morris already let people know he would love the Texas job. Even if it's a pipedream. Like I said he wouldn't turn it down

We're in agreement, he wouldn't turn the Texas job down if it was presented to him. We just disagree in how TAMU plays out in that Scenario (which is fine). I think if Sumlin leaves for USC and TAMU makes Morris an offer, he takes the job. The only way I see him choosing Texas over TAMU is if TAMU offers him an embarrassingly low amount of pay.

 

[DizzG]

I don't think it's arrogance. It's the fact that this is an old story only being perpetuated by insiders with their own agendas. If there was any contact with us at this point they would be in a frenzy and really scared.the op hit the nail on the head.

so is our own Mcphaul here just some guy with an agenda? He certainly has heard developed info on the Saban situation and continued to report on it here. I dont think Jesus Shuttlesworth/Inside Texas have some agenda to push Saban either. They broke the Saban story last year many months before it ever came out in the AP article. People blasted them for it to, but its clear they have some high contacts with the situation. Based on the continued updates there, here and others I just dont think it makes logical sense to think there really isnt contact going on because it hasn't blown up in a national mainstream news article. There has been continued developments. Its not just an old story from last year that hasn't gone anywhere

 

[orangeman01]

No.McPhaul is passing his information on that's he's getting. I think he is merely being kind to all of us.i value his info.and as far as I've been told they(Alabama insiders) knew about those talks then and it circulated on their forums then. I've stated that I thought if it were going on now that it again be reported in both teams insiders and forums. Then the fact that the ad prediction was wrong also leads me to believe nothing is going on to say Saban is our next hc. I also think insiders are a lil different when it comes to hc's as opposed to info on recruits.

 

[CoachBobbyFinstock]

Todd Graham won't get a sniff. He is not well liked in the coaching community across the state.

A Bama guy isn't a good source. What does anyone think they would say? No getting on the OP at all just saying they are not where I would look for unbiased info on the matter.

 

[orangeman01]

Todd Graham won't get a sniff. He is not well liked in the coaching community across the state.
A Bama guy isn't a good source. What does anyone think they would say? No getting on the OP at all just saying they are not where I would look for unbiased info on the matter.

Then we must also take ours with a grain of salt.

 

[harpethhorn]

We have family in Alabama (wife's side). Most of them are dyed-in the wool Alabama fans. A couple of them are connected to the Tide program.

We've discussed the Saban situation. Trust me, you will always get a biased opinion from Bama folks of NS going anywhere, BMD's or not, especially when it involves Texas....

a program they respect but view as a highly-marketed money making brand but NOT an annual championship contender.

The truth is hard to come by because it's ALABAMA!

However, in their "honest" moments, they are still scared absolutely sh_____less that Texas is the one school that COULD compel Saban to leave. Heck, they admit it.

It's gotten to the point where they are edgy and defensive, not amused when the subject comes up. Knowing the other side here....IMO the Saban smoke is very real.

 

[Sonny]

Patterson wasn't hired to bring in the likes of Todd Graham. It may not be Saban, but it's going to be a Headliner.