Random Question (& Bijan Appreciation Post)

[Big Daddy Cane]

He doesn't seem to be driven by individual awards, so Heisman reasons would be out. If the team shows signs of competing for  Natty, I could see him coming back. NIL money tempers the urge to bolt to the nfl.

Would love to see him come back, but I'll be cheering for him regardless of where he goes.

 

[BWilk55]

https://www.on3.com/teams/texas-longhorns/news/how-far-up-texas-all-time-rushing-list-can-bijan-robinson-go/

Bijan is on track to end the season with about the 5th most rushing yards in Texas history - Behind Ricky, Earl, Ced, Charles and Chris Gilbert. Charles and Gilbert both only played 3yrs at Texas.

I do think rushing yards is the wrong metric for Bijan though, I looked at scrimmage yards, or what the Texas records call Tandem Yards (receiving + rushing).

At his current pace for this season, Bijan would end the year 4th in career tandem yards behind Ricky, Earl and Ced. If he were to return next season and put up similar stats to this year, he would end 2nd, behind Ricky. 

 

[BWilk55]

https://www.on3.com/teams/texas-longhorns/news/how-far-up-texas-all-time-rushing-list-can-bijan-robinson-go/

Bijan is on track to end the season with about the 5th most rushing yards in Texas history - Behind Ricky, Earl, Ced, Charles and Chris Gilbert. Charles and Gilbert both only played 3yrs at Texas.

I do think rushing yards is the wrong metric for Bijan though, I looked at scrimmage yards, or what the Texas records call Tandem Yards (receiving + rushing).

At his current pace for this season, Bijan would end the year 4th in career tandem yards behind Ricky, Earl and Ced. If he were to return next season and put up similar stats to this year, he would end 2nd, behind Ricky. 

Also, not just Bijan related but the Bijan plus Roschon duo is on pace to have the 2nd highest rush yard total in Texas history behind Earl Campbell and Ham Jones (and only short by 85 yards). On top of that, Ham and Earl only had 150 receiving yards that year (Bijan and Rojo on pace for 725) so Bijan and Roschon will likely blow the doors off of the "tandem yards" record for a duo. 

 

[oldhorn2]

Bijan may not have eye popping numbers, but he has eye popping tape. I doubt there is a back in the NFL that has the ability to catch a pass better than Bijan. Rediculous circus catches. We might be surprised how much the pros might value that.

He is gone and I wish him the best.

 

[BWilk55]

When I talk about this being the best RB duo in Texas' history, this is what I am talking about.

From a statistics standpoint, Bi-Jo (or Ro-jan) are on pace to out gain 1977 Earl and Ham Jones by about 150 yards on the season to become the most prolific RB duo in terms of scrimmage yards.

 

[BWilk55]

After the TCU game, it seemed like Bijan would fall out of the race for the Doak Walker award. However, this past weekend put Bijan right back in the thick of things. Let's look how he statistically stacks up now.



Rushing Yards




1.


Chase Brown • [SIZE=0.92em]Illinois[/SIZE]


1582




2.


Mohamed Ibrahim • [SIZE=0.92em]Minnesota[/SIZE]


1524




3.


Blake Corum • [SIZE=0.92em]Michigan[/SIZE]


1457




4.


DeWayne McBride • [SIZE=0.92em]Alabama-Birmingham[/SIZE]


1441




5.


Brad Roberts • [SIZE=0.92em]Air Force[/SIZE]


1425




6.


Bijan Robinson • [SIZE=0.92em]Texas[/SIZE]


1400




7.


Quinshon Judkins • [SIZE=0.92em]Mississippi[/SIZE]


1385




8.


Raheim Sanders • [SIZE=0.92em]Arkansas[/SIZE]


1379




9.


Carson Steele • [SIZE=0.92em]Ball State[/SIZE]


1376




10.


Khalan Laborn • [SIZE=0.92em]Marshall[/SIZE]


1323




11.


Israel Abanikanda • [SIZE=0.92em]Pittsburgh[/SIZE]


1320










Yards From Scrimmage




1.


Chase Brown • [SIZE=0.92em]Illinois[/SIZE]


1779




2.


Bijan Robinson • [SIZE=0.92em]Texas[/SIZE]


1714




3.


Raheim Sanders • [SIZE=0.92em]Arkansas[/SIZE]


1628




4.


Mohamed Ibrahim • [SIZE=0.92em]Minnesota[/SIZE]


1574




5.


Zach Charbonnet • [SIZE=0.92em]UCLA[/SIZE]


1539




6.


Blake Corum • [SIZE=0.92em]Michigan[/SIZE]


1537




7.


Carson Steele • [SIZE=0.92em]Ball State[/SIZE]


1507




8.


Quinshon Judkins • [SIZE=0.92em]Mississippi[/SIZE]


1497




9.


Israel Abanikanda • [SIZE=0.92em]Pittsburgh[/SIZE]


1458




10.


DeWayne McBride • [SIZE=0.92em]Alabama-Birmingham[/SIZE]


1451









Touchdowns From Scrimmage




1.


Blake Corum • [SIZE=0.92em]Michigan[/SIZE]


19




 


Israel Abanikanda • [SIZE=0.92em]Pittsburgh[/SIZE]


19




 


Mohamed Ibrahim • [SIZE=0.92em]Minnesota[/SIZE]


19




4.


DeWayne McBride • [SIZE=0.92em]Alabama-Birmingham[/SIZE]


18




 


Bijan Robinson • [SIZE=0.92em]Texas[/SIZE]


18




6.


Quinshon Judkins • [SIZE=0.92em]Mississippi[/SIZE]


17







Chase Brown has 12 touchdowns.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Bijan has nothing to gain by staying. His draft stock is at the top. Friday is likely his last game. We’ve been blessed to have him.

 

[Hiwood]

I watched the USC vs UCLA game last night and the announcers were gushing about Caleb Williams and then they flashed all the QB Heisman contenders on the screen and the games they had and not ONE fricking mention of Bijan and the day he had, if that wasn't a Heisman worthy performance I dont know what is. If he doesnt get an invite to NY I will be bitterly disappointed

 

[Sunkist]

If he gets a draft grade after the 2nd, he’d probably come back.  But we all know he won’t.

He should and will take advantage of a great college career and take his talents to the NFL.  No reason to risk it all for another college season.

he gone. 

 

[Sunkist]

I watched the USC vs UCLA game last night and the announcers were gushing about Caleb Williams and then they flashed all the QB Heisman contenders on the screen and the games they had and not ONE fricking mention of Bijan and the day he had, if that wasn't a Heisman worthy performance I dont know what is. If he doesnt get an invite to NY I will be bitterly disappointed

I mean the TCU game all but eliminated him unfortunately. 

 

[UTfish]

If he gets a draft grade after the 2nd, he’d probably come back.  But we all know he won’t.

He should and will take advantage of a great college career and take his talents to the NFL.  No reason to risk it all for another college season.

he gone. 

Maybe, but Bijan is a different breed of cat who absolutely loves the Longhorns. The OL will be great next year, and Texas is going to be really good. He's already getting millions from NIL and the Heisman would be a realistic possibility. 

I'm not saying that he should stay another year, but it wouldn't really surprise me if he does. 

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I doubt he comes back, but imagine if the Horns back into the B12 Championship game, win it then win their bowl game. That may make him and all other returning players feel like something special could happen next year. As already mentioned, he is making $$ with NIL and he is a different kind of guy. A man can dream.

??

 

[Soldierhorn]

Jamaal Charles, along with Priest Holmes are two to the most unappreciated RBs at Texas.

Holmes setback was through injury and not much could have been done about that but he was a much better Pro than his time at UT and that says something.

Charles was one of the best I've ever seen. With either a better offensive scheme or an even average OL, he would have had over 2000 yds in 2007 and we would be having a different conversation. the championship OL was completely gone by 2007 and it showed.  Their run blocking was atrocious and pass blocking wasnt much better so Greg Davis moved on from the VY zone read to a full spread offense. Result? right move for Colt even though he set the record for interceptions, but it was a big setback for jamaal. Watching the fastest RB in college football take handoffs at a stand still was mind blowing as was the stretch play horizontally along the opposite offensive set.  how do you self-neutralize the fastest player? have him run horizontally.  Charles and Finley were so irritated by GD's scheme, they couldnt leave soon enough.  Being a MUCH better pro than college player says something wasnt right

If Bijan leaves after this year, he will be ANOTHER Texas RB that will do better in the NFL

 

[Johnny Depp]

The lowest 1st rounder last year got 13m over 4 years. There were no running backs taken 1st round. NIL can't touch that.

 

[Sunkist]

Jamaal Charles, along with Priest Holmes are two to the most unappreciated RBs at Texas.

Holmes setback was through injury and not much could have been done about that but he was a much better Pro than his time at UT and that says something.

Charles was one of the best I've ever seen. With either a better offensive scheme or an even average OL, he would have had over 2000 yds in 2007 and we would be having a different conversation. the championship OL was completely gone by 2007 and it showed.  Their run blocking was atrocious and pass blocking wasnt much better so Greg Davis moved on from the VY zone read to a full spread offense. Result? right move for Colt even though he set the record for interceptions, but it was a big setback for jamaal. Watching the fastest RB in college football take handoffs at a stand still was mind blowing as was the stretch play horizontally along the opposite offensive set.  how do you self-neutralize the fastest player? have him run horizontally.  Charles and Finley were so irritated by GD's scheme, they couldnt leave soon enough.  Being a MUCH better pro than college player says something wasnt right

If Bijan leaves after this year, he will be ANOTHER Texas RB that will do better in the NFL

I know how great he was in the NFL might lead us to think Charles was underutilized but I remember us being down a few games (Ok St and Nebraska come to mind) in 2007 and we then started to make handing off to Charles a priority and he takes over and takes a few to the house from 50+.
 

His talent was always noticeable but he’s def one of the most talented and probably the fastest ever (sorry Romance) at the position at Texas.  He could’ve been so much more.

 

[DBut82]

The lowest 1st rounder last year got 13m over 4 years. There were no running backs taken 1st round. NIL can't touch that.

False...13m over 4 years equates to 3.25m/year. Bijan has an NIL valuation of 1.6 this year. It'll be higher next year. Bryce Young is 3.2 this year...so yes, NIL can touch that; especially considering Breece Hall (the 1st rb taken in 2022, 2nd round 4th pick) signed for 4yrs/9mil (2.25mil/yr)

 

[Johnny Depp]

False...13m over 4 years equates to 3.25m/year. Bijan has an NIL valuation of 1.6 this year. It'll be higher next year. Bryce Young is 3.2 this year...so yes, NIL can touch that; especially considering Breece Hall (the 1st rb taken in 2022, 2nd round 4th pick) signed for 4yrs/9mil (2.25mil/yr)

4 years vs 1. Signing bonus worth about 2 years. We can dream.

 

[DBut82]

4 years vs 1. Signing bonus worth about 2 years. We can dream.

Apples and oranges tbh; NIL is basically 1 year contracts for however many years a prospect stays. IF Bijan were to return his NIL totals next year will undoubtedly be more than this years. Not to mention his 1.6 was a projection before the season began. Who knows? He may project to 2-2.5mil if he returns with a true Heisman campaign behind him. ??‍

 

[Soldierhorn]

I know how great he was in the NFL might lead us to think Charles was underutilized but I remember us being down a few games (Ok St and Nebraska come to mind) in 2007 and we then started to make handing off to Charles a priority and he takes over and takes a few to the house from 50+.
 

His talent was always noticeable but he’s def one of the most talented and probably the fastest ever (sorry Romance) at the position at Texas.  He could’ve been so much more.

yeah. (just going by memory) JC just out talented the OOC games and racked up 100+ yd games quickly and was sat.  

When conference games started Gregg Davis was forcing the passing game racking up interception after interception.  The offensive line was terrible and still was a work in progress.  JC didnt get a 100+ game until the Nebraska game.

Even during the NU game JC only had 60 something yds up until the 4th qtr and the Horns were down 9-17 (or something like that). NU had the worst run defense in the conference GD hadnt figured out how to exploit it. JC pretty much put everything on his shoulders and took off running for daylight.  IIRC, the 86yd TD run untouched woke everyone up. then the 65 yd TD run, again pretty much on his own; then there was a third TD run. JC had 219 yds in the 4th quarter and ended up with 290 for the game.  

After the NU game, GD focused on JC for the rest of the year and I think there was only one game that he didnt get 100 yds to finish the season.  Charles should have been the focus in 2006 & 2007. If so, he might have come back for a senior season but GD was pass-happy and thought he was a genius. GD's philosophy ultimately failed (even in 2008 & 2009) and wasted talent (eg, Charles). Mack knew this and why he wanted to go back to his roots with a balanced offense & power running (but bad timing in 2010)

 

[BWilk55]

With Bijan's stellar effort today, he moves just 2 yards out of the lead for rushing yards on the year (2nd to Chase Brown of illinois) and moves to 1st overall in scrimmage yards with a 115 yard edge over Chase Brown once (note Chase Brown has 12TDs to Bijans 20). His 2 TDs also put him in 1st overall 1 ahead of fellow finalists Blake Corum of Michigan, Israel Abanikanda of Pitt and Mohamed Ibrahim of Minnesota. 

I think Corum and Chase Brown are the 2 biggest competitors for the Doak Walker Award.

A few things to watch for on Saturday. Does Blake Corum play? He had a knee injury in his last game and has been questionable to play. If he can't go, or is limited in his effect on the game, he may fall out of this race as aside from TDs, his yardage totals are already a few hundred behind the others. Also, a Michigan loss would mean no chance of him to return and have a stellar outing/rack up stats in the championship game.

Chase Brown should be full steam ahead - so we should hope for a poor outing from him. An Illinois loss is unlikely against Northwestern but we should all pull for Purdue to win. If they do, Illinois will miss out on the conference championship game and Brown will not have an extra opportunity for stats prior to the award winners being named.